i can understand how ignorant folks can be duped into supporting someone like Trump or Sanders, but i just can't wrap my head around how anyone can actually support Hillary Clinton. mind-boggling.

7/12/2016 7:10:14 PM

Wait aren't you the "it's ok to not like things" guy?

7/12/2016 7:33:17 PM

Duped into supporting Sanders? The only candidate calling for the things this nation needs? Okay. Enjoying living in an oligarchy you worthless turd

7/12/2016 7:38:41 PM

^^not sure what you mean by that

i'm more of a "leave other folks alone" guy

7/12/2016 7:53:49 PM

gun nut Trump supporter ^

7/12/2016 8:02:29 PM

Haha not in a million years.

7/12/2016 8:10:17 PM

^^ this guy

7/12/2016 8:11:53 PM

Quote :

"gun nut Trump supporter ^"

You must not pay attention to people's posts here.

^^^^ I thought you have posted references to this video in the past: message_topic.aspx?topic=628782

7/12/2016 9:48:14 PM

Not sure how my post is in contradiction with that mantra

7/12/2016 10:04:28 PM

Its saying that Hillary supporters are worse than ignorant, whatever that may be. Like really fucking ignorant I guess. Colossally fucking stupid?

And Bernie and Trump supports are just basic ignorant

[Edited on July 12, 2016 at 10:47 PM. Reason : I'm no expert in dickish behavior, but I think that qualifies ]

7/12/2016 10:31:26 PM

That's just it. I don't think it's ignorance. Like I said, I don't know why they do support her.

Pointing out that someone is uninformed or uneducated is not dickish. These are matters of fact. I interpret your video to refer to matters of opinion.

[Edited on July 12, 2016 at 10:51 PM. Reason : Gs]

7/12/2016 10:49:08 PM

Just because people don't want to scrap democracy in favor of a "robust system of private property rights" doesn't make them uninformed or uneducated. That just happens to be their opinion.

7/12/2016 11:02:16 PM

That's a whole different topic

7/12/2016 11:19:10 PM

Yeah that was mostly a joke, but these are clearly matters of opinion.

7/12/2016 11:23:52 PM

Yes, I guess one could hold the opinion that someone who has committed the federal crimes she has is a good candidate for POTUS.

7/12/2016 11:32:12 PM

Alternatively, one could hold the opinion that she's better than Trump

7/12/2016 11:35:53 PM

But, hell, US presidents have been breaking the law since Washington sent federal troops to Pennsylvania, so why break tradition?

[Edited on July 12, 2016 at 11:42 PM. Reason : Ah, the old lesser of two evils. That's worked well for us. ]

7/12/2016 11:40:51 PM

You're certainly free to hold that opinion.

7/12/2016 11:42:40 PM

If you can cast that vote and sleep at night, rock on. I cast the votes that I can live with.

7/12/2016 11:59:08 PM

**votes down ballot Republican in every race, leaves presidential race blank**

[Edited on July 13, 2016 at 6:07 AM. Reason : Or doesn't vote at all?]

7/13/2016 6:06:00 AM

the dude who thinks a utopia can exist where no one is trampled on in anyway thinks that other people are ignorant

7/13/2016 6:08:55 AM

Naw man, the court systems and insurance companies will protect us, but only if they're in a free market

7/13/2016 6:13:00 AM

Clinton inviting Mike Brown's mother to speak at DNC.... Lmao.

7/20/2016 3:08:48 PM

Democrats love to ignore these basic ideas of "innocent until proven guilty" and "due process" when they frame the issue as deceitfully as they do. The sit-ins from the left are just publicity stunts.

7/20/2016 3:14:12 PM

Given the turmoil right now between BLM and cops and whatnot, maybe not the best idea, but certainly not shocking. Hopefully at this point she'll call for unity.

7/20/2016 3:14:57 PM

maybe say something like this?:

We need to try, as best we can, to walk in one another’s shoes – to imagine what it would be like if people followed us around stores, or locked their car doors when we walked past. Or if every time our children went to play in the park, or went for a ride, or just to the store to buy iced tea and Skittles, we said a prayer –‘Please, God – please, God – don’t let anything happen to my baby.’

And let’s put ourselves in the shoes of police officers, kissing their kids and spouses goodbye every day and heading off to a dangerous job we need them to do. When gunfire broke out yesterday night, and everyone ran to safety, the police officers ran the other way – into the gunfire. That’s the kind of courage our police and first responders show every single day somewhere across America.

[Edited on July 20, 2016 at 3:27 PM. Reason : .]

7/20/2016 3:27:00 PM

Why? No one disputes that police officers have dangerous jobs. That's not even a debate. 100% of Americans would agree with that second statement. Hell, statistically, poor minority laborers are much more likely to die on the job than a beat cop in the most violent neighborhoods in America.

7/20/2016 3:37:01 PM

100% of the people would not agree with the second part

what i posted is a quote from Clinton, and I think it was a good one (not perfect, still leans a little to far towards false equivalency). The problem a lot of people make when they call for unity is impying a false equivalency between the people in power and the people who are being oppressed. The people in power have a greater need and ability to make changes to fix the problem, it is not a responsibility shared equally and many calls for unity have this problem.

Her statement was more of a call for understanding, it acknowledges that you can both support the cops and understand that we have problems and they need to change. That kind of nuance is beyond most people who have become polarized by the debate, and i think her statement was a good one.

[Edited on July 20, 2016 at 3:50 PM. Reason : .]

7/20/2016 3:45:18 PM

Oh, well good for her, she's a better politician than I!

7/20/2016 3:47:22 PM

100% not shocked that you are okay with the statement after learning it was from Clinton

7/20/2016 3:50:34 PM

You're trying too hard.

7/20/2016 3:53:02 PM

Gary Johnson is really looking good right now.

7/20/2016 3:59:16 PM

I just assume every single dtownral post nowadays is a copy/paste of JCE and don't even read it

7/20/2016 11:12:49 PM

I've given a pretty pragmatic defense of Hillary ITT on several occasions. If she picks Tim Kaine for VP then I take it all back and her entire campaign can eat shit and die for all I care.

7/22/2016 1:34:01 PM

I wanted Xavier Becerra but that was always a pipe dream. The Kaine pick wouldn't make much sense to me. She doesn't need him to win VA and his policy positions aren't going to excite any downtrodden Bernie fans. However, from the start, she's said her top criteria for VP are someone she can work with for the next 8 years and also fit to serve as President in her administration. Both of those are highly personal determinations which really no one other than her should be making.

7/22/2016 2:42:43 PM

I'd take Franken

I'm honestly surprised that Booker or Castro aren't higher up on the short list. I think it'll end up being Vilsack though.

7/22/2016 2:47:22 PM

I'm really hoping for Tom Perez

7/22/2016 2:55:30 PM

Wikileaks just put out 20,000 DNC E-mails hacked by the Russians:

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/756521849308188674

http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/wikileaks-dnc-democratic-national-convention-read-bernie-sanders-documents-emails-calls-debbie-wasserman-schultz-hillary-clinton-black-lives-matter-deray-chuck-todd-fec-morning-joe-mika-obama-trump-re/

Full database: https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/

7/22/2016 3:43:42 PM

Sneaky fucking Russians.

7/22/2016 3:45:34 PM

got another false equivalency for synapse:

sending bill clinton back into white house bout as dumb as thinking its a good idea for bill cosby to make more tv commercials for puddin pops

7/22/2016 4:05:28 PM

pokemon go to the polls

7/22/2016 4:15:45 PM

Yeah remember how terrible everything was when he was president?

7/22/2016 4:27:10 PM

God bless wiki leaks.

7/22/2016 4:29:41 PM

wonder if his sexual assault victims thought it was terrible back then

[Edited on July 22, 2016 at 4:32 PM. Reason : s]

7/22/2016 4:31:40 PM

this is only day one of wikileak's week-long series

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/288900-leaked-dnc-emails-reveal-secret-plans-to-take-on-sanders

7/22/2016 8:34:31 PM

It was quite evident from the get go that the DNC had their thumb on th scale for Hillary. These emails just prove what everyone already suspected. It's one thing for a party to have a preferred candidate, it's another for them to be actively helping that candidate.

7/22/2016 8:53:06 PM

Check out the emails linked here, it's absolutely insane. DNC heads using "Bernie Bro", coordinating with HFA and CTR, talking about moles in the Sanders campaign, DWS making demands of Chuck Todd, etc.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4u5ztv/dnc_email_leak_megathread/d5n4i63

[Edited on July 22, 2016 at 9:14 PM. Reason : .]

7/22/2016 9:12:27 PM

^^,^ I think Bernie needs to keep agitating for DWS to step down as he was earlier in the year. She's garbage and taints everything she touches.


And now fucking Tim Kaine. Fuck. He's not the conservadem Satan I thought he was when I freaked out several posts up, his views are more nuanced than that, but he's still tilting in the wrong direction on banking and to some degree abortion. Fuck Hillary, it's like she's trying to make the race close?

I went to the mat earlier in this thread encouraging Bernie supporters to ultimately vote Hillary. At this point, I'm not even sure I'll be voting for her. I hope the progressive caucus rips her a new asshole.

If only the race were more competitive and conservatives could get their shit together enough so that Dems had to actually pursue its base. At this point, with the media's help, we are all so horrified by the prospect of a Trump presidency that Hillary can just kick back, bundle donations from bankers, and plot the next fucking war she's gonna get us in.

7/22/2016 9:18:12 PM

I really wonder how much coverage this is going to get on main stream media, it really paints MSNBC and CNN in unflattering light as well. It really does play right into Trump and Sanders talking about a rigged system.

It's been deafening silence thus far on cable news.

7/22/2016 9:19:57 PM

Surely Fox will pick it up, it crafts the "Lieberal Media" narrative perfectly. Once fox picks it up, the other channels will follow suit I would think, ratings! Plus Trump is gonna harp on this I imagine and the media can't help itself but cover everything that comes out of his mouth. It'll be in the cycle tomorrow morning and well into Sunday.

7/22/2016 9:26:18 PM