i'd say the worst culprits are fat girls' friends. they constantly tell them they're beautiful thus reinforcing the acceptability of being fat.

10/7/2013 10:19:38 AM

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"^^ saying someone is fat is an observation. its the same as saying someone is tall or that someone is white or is black. you guys are throwing your own negative associations on the description. all i was doing was pointing out that it was fat, and that what most people were saying is 22% is actually 30%+"

i agree and the only negative association i make is my own preference, and any point to where it becomes a health issue

but if we are to reference this image, which picture do you think "fat" starts, regardless of the % being wrong?



[Edited on October 7, 2013 at 10:21 AM. Reason : .]

10/7/2013 10:20:24 AM

the one that is labeled as 25% is not fat, but any more is fat. It's also probably not 25%. Kim Kardashian in the 30% picture is fat. 35% and above is obese.

just because someone makes a graphic and throws some percentages on there doesn't make them mean anything.

10/7/2013 10:23:50 AM

none of that is unreasonable imo

10/7/2013 10:25:31 AM

the 30% picture is thick, not fat

unless you don't know the difference

10/7/2013 10:29:20 AM

if somebody would teach 35% the skinny arm trick and how to pose with your tits out and tummy sucked in a little, she'd be hotter. either way, I bet she has a pretty face and loves to drink

10/7/2013 10:34:15 AM

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"the 30% picture is thick, not fat unless you don't know the difference"

thick is a type of fat

[Edited on October 7, 2013 at 10:41 AM. Reason : its literally the opposite of thin]

10/7/2013 10:36:51 AM

you clearly don't know the difference between the two definitions that TT10 keeps in his head.

10/7/2013 11:07:31 AM

Thick girls might have larger bones and hips, but the same body fat % as someone who looks "thin"

10/7/2013 11:14:23 AM

false

10/7/2013 11:15:42 AM

no, that talking point is actually true

[Edited on October 7, 2013 at 11:21 AM. Reason : for example, Vida Guerra is thick and not fat]

10/7/2013 11:18:33 AM

oh, so her femur bones are wide and flat so her thighs squeeze together? her humerous is swollen and bulged so her upper arms are puffy?

10/7/2013 11:22:32 AM

do you think all females have the same size hip bone? maybe you should read some medical journals on osteoporosis to educate yourself on some variance

10/7/2013 11:25:05 AM

oh, wide hip bones adds girth to arms and legs and face? i'm not a doctor, i didn't know that.

10/7/2013 11:40:11 AM

are you still obsessed with the 30% picture or do you really think there aren't females with wider hips and just as low body fat as girls that look "thin"

10/7/2013 11:46:08 AM

i'm pointing out that she isn't fat because her hips are wide, she's fat because she is fat. her hips may be wide, but she is fat.

[Edited on October 7, 2013 at 11:53 AM. Reason : she is skinny though by Rock Hill standards]

10/7/2013 11:51:59 AM

how about Vida Guerra? is she fat?

[Edited on October 7, 2013 at 11:56 AM. Reason : do you see fat girls like her around Fuquay Varina where you live?]

10/7/2013 11:55:33 AM

Vida Guerra is a fitness competitor now, so she looks much more like the gals in OEP's thread than Kim Kardashian.

10/7/2013 12:09:38 PM

^^ in which picture?

[Edited on October 7, 2013 at 12:49 PM. Reason : because per my googling, she is very significantly thinner than Kim Kardashian]

10/7/2013 12:45:34 PM

http://healthland.time.com/2013/10/07/low-fat-livers-linked-to-healthy-obesity/?hpt=hp_t3

10/7/2013 12:57:19 PM

I know this is Chit Chat, and there are some well-meaning people in here, but this is one of the most god damn infuriating threads ever on TWW.

10/7/2013 1:04:12 PM

^ how so?

10/7/2013 1:16:52 PM

(he has a really short temper and a simple mind)

10/7/2013 1:19:23 PM

to me, it reinforces my belief that more people are shallow assholes than not.

10/7/2013 1:19:23 PM

It's a good sampling of the current mindset that drives people to suicide and eating-disorders.

I agree we have a serious problem in this country, but shame probably isn't the best course to affect real change.

Not to mention the ham-planets that are likely giving advice here and shouldn't be.

10/7/2013 1:19:58 PM

the serious problem is delusional fat people who would rather find justification in being fat rather than simply slim themselves down.

10/7/2013 1:22:58 PM

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"shame probably isn't the best course to affect real change."

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"ham-planets"

uhhhhhh

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"to me, it reinforces my belief that more people are shallow assholes than not."

i'd like to hear your definition of shallow

10/7/2013 1:23:03 PM

I apologize, that wasn't necessarily meant to offend anyone, I was trying to illustrate the hypocrisy that is definitely present ITT.

Unfortunately I did so by being hypocritical.



My point still stands. This thread reminds me of friends I have that will drive all the way to Raleigh to protest for gay marriage etc, and then casually call people "fag" as a generic insult.

10/7/2013 1:25:46 PM

so we have an epidemic of depressed, unhealthy people... and the best course of action is to make them feel good about being unhealthy? why not aim to make them healthy? they'll probably find much more genuine happiness (not that happiness is a real thing).

and let me lay some even harsher truth down: people are shallow. incredibly shallow. every single thing people do is in self-interest, even if that interest is feeling good about one's deeds.

10/7/2013 1:34:21 PM

^^
fat people are fat by choice in most cases, though.

it IS a negative thing if you're concerned about your health and general attractiveness to your partner/potential partners (of course people have different tastes). so what though? it's just one negative trait. everyone has positive and negative traits.

^also what he said

most people who say they aren't shallow are fucking liars. everyone has a standard of beauty they're willing to accept

[Edited on October 7, 2013 at 1:36 PM. Reason : .]

10/7/2013 1:36:14 PM

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"and let me lay some even harsher truth down: people are shallow."

let me lay down a truth: some people are way more shallow than others. there actually are genuinely nice, caring people on this earth. i even have a few friends that are pretty decent humans. and then there are assholes. shitheads who feel better about themselves by being assholes and putting others down, often times for no reason. there's many more of those on this earth.

10/7/2013 2:05:45 PM

Quote :

"i even have a few friends that are pretty decent humans."

as far as you can tell, i'm sure that that's true.

10/7/2013 2:20:05 PM

^^
you can be genuinely nice and caring while also being honest with people

10/7/2013 3:08:28 PM

do you tell your ugly friends they're ugly? you could just accept them for who they are and not judge them on their appearance.

10/7/2013 3:11:00 PM

if a friend asks me my honest opinion, i tell them. the same goes the other way.

but that's because my friends and i realize that looks are not everything

actually maybe you're the shallow one here by thinking it's so wrong to be ugly that we need to lie to people and tell everyone they're beautiful

10/7/2013 3:16:19 PM

i never said anything about telling everyone they're beautiful, never said anything close to that.

and your friends ask you if they're ugly?

10/7/2013 3:18:00 PM

wat? that was a hypothetical, my friend. similar questions have come up

[Edited on October 7, 2013 at 3:19 PM. Reason : .]

10/7/2013 3:19:21 PM

let me know when this thread has more pictures from this thread: ?topic=465206

10/7/2013 3:59:48 PM

More fuel to fuel the fire... but seriously, one of the few with dates on it!

She looks very good by the 3rd pic, and only gets better in the subsequent ones.

10/7/2013 10:19:44 PM

6 months? Now that's amazing

10/7/2013 11:03:09 PM

10/8/2013 12:44:59 AM

to be fair, hair makeup lighting and posing can do a LOT.

There are countless youtube videos on ppl that go from blah to wow in like 24 hours.

with that said...some good stuff in here.

10/8/2013 1:10:10 AM

True, but all examples in this thread are of the losing weight variety, not the 24 hour woah transformation

10/8/2013 1:28:03 AM

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"True, but all examples in this thread are of the losing weight variety, not the 24 hour woah transformation "

all? hardly...in a lot of these "transformations", you start with little (or no) makeup and crappy lighting and end up with something staged (refer to the 3 instances above you)

obviously lighting and makeup didn't do all the work, but it DOES make a noticeable difference

10/8/2013 9:04:05 AM

I didnt say the examples are weight loss with no makeup and lighting and tanning

I said all these examples [obviously] have weight loss at their base, and they are NOT the 24 hour transformations you see which are 100% makeup and lighting and tanning.

10/8/2013 11:13:36 AM

3 to 4 months? wow!

10/8/2013 3:41:03 PM

Yo. I think we get it.

10/8/2013 4:00:11 PM

Regarding the picture at the top of this page, the one labeled "35%" is my favorite body type for a woman. I would also pick the 40% over any of the top 3 pictures.

10/8/2013 4:40:30 PM

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"I would also pick the 40% over any of the top 3 pictures."

[Edited on October 8, 2013 at 5:03 PM. Reason : ARE YOU AFRICAN???]

10/8/2013 5:03:35 PM

people have different opinions. some might think you're a weirdo for finding manly looking female body-builders attractive.

[Edited on October 8, 2013 at 5:07 PM. Reason : ]

10/8/2013 5:07:41 PM