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"I believe this has something to do with the type of content you can have on an iphone. Such as apps. If you were free to add/remove media from any library without the penalty of having to restore it...it would be very easy for us to share purchased apps and other media."

All Apps go through iTunes, which can be authorized on multiple computers.

Also, anything with a DRM is already locked down to a specific computer anyway or in most cases with the iPhone comes from iTunes so should be available anywhere someone can authorize their account.

Anything without a DRM should is fair game and can be transferred a million different ways anyway.

So that can't possibly be the reason.

11/3/2009 11:44:54 AM

The reason is they want you to repurchase your non-drm music through the itunes store. There is no magical voodoo that prevents the iphone from copying non-drm music back and forth between any computer, the software is specifically crippled to prevent you from doing it.

There is no more agument here. Apple wants their device to be locked into the itunes store, and they want the itunes store locked into their device. The ability to play other forms of media is a secondary concern that is purposefully crippled to make the average user give up and use the itunes store.

11/3/2009 1:54:48 PM

^Not that i was expecting anything else but you clearly have no idea wtf you are talking about.

1) iTunes and the iPhone are not cripplied in terms of playing non-drm non-itunes purchased content. I have tons of non-iTunes purchased audio and video media in iTunes and on my iPhone.
2) if you reformat your computer you do not have to repurchase your music unless you are dumb enough not to back up your computer. If you lose your drive and everything on it you're still going to have to re-download all those pirated tracks anyway. Who's fault is that?
3) Just like Microsoft or anyone else that makes a device and a store...they don't want your business going else where. Sounds to me like you just have an issue with the business model widely adopted and just paying for content in general.
4) "the software is specifically crippled to prevent you from doing it." - read previous posts, dumbass...we already said that.
5) I can't believe i took the time to respond to a shaggy rant. I lose.

[Edited on November 3, 2009 at 2:03 PM. Reason : .]

11/3/2009 2:01:12 PM

itunes and iphone are crippled in that they dont let you sync to multiple computers. If I have songs on my iphone from home, what possible reason is there to prevent me from copying them from my iphone to my computer at work?

If you do happen to lose your music library on your computer, why in the fuck shouldn't you be able to copy it from your iphone back to your computer?

Microsoft makes a device and a store, but their device shows up in windows as a mass storage device. So all you need to do is copy files back and forth like any other external drive.

Apple has crippled their devices on purpose. There is no fucking way you can be that huge of a fanboy to think that not allowing you to copy music from one computer to another is a good thing.

11/3/2009 2:23:46 PM

^I think the problem here is that you are such a trolling fanboy that you failed to see where I supported this idea... I was responding to Stein's questions on how iTunes/iPhones relationship work. Unlike Noen, I am not the official representative of Microsoft/Apple and don't make it my job to defend everything that is apple.

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"If you purchased the media on the iPhone then yes you could transfer back. (dumb that its restricted to purchased content only, i know)"

[Edited on November 3, 2009 at 2:28 PM. Reason : .]

11/3/2009 2:26:55 PM

dammit, this thread sucks now... post some cool shit in here like the good old days

11/3/2009 3:19:22 PM

^too many bitter folk for that ITT.

11/3/2009 3:37:38 PM

ok, well the skee-ball app and the christmas list app are pretty cool. even my dad likes the skee-ball one.

11/3/2009 3:59:23 PM

yeah my gmail is really screwing up. I won't get messages in my inbox for hours (even though it's push), although they DO show up in my "all mail" on my iPhone when i click refresh.

Also i just received an email on gmail.com that says 6:10 (it was 5:10) at the time. I made sure it was set to eastern time. Did my gmail forget to switch for DST?

-yeah all my emails online have been an hour ahead after day light savings time. iPhone says the right time but gmail doesn't.

[Edited on November 3, 2009 at 5:49 PM. Reason : ,]

11/3/2009 5:47:23 PM

Command and Conquer red alert in the app store now!

11/3/2009 7:27:18 PM

Seems like a lot of people are having issues with gmail push not working anymore.

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=6f43186c34b6e0b7&hl=en

11/4/2009 4:17:16 PM

^Mine mostly works but the emails will disappear after about a day from the iphone inbox (they are still in my gmail inbox though)

11/4/2009 7:58:21 PM

^have you checked to see how far back you're syncing?

11/4/2009 10:39:15 PM

Never really got Push Gmail totally working on mine... It never went back and downloaded all my e-mails like I asked it to, and a couple times it even lost everything it HAD downloaded and started from scratch again, so I disabled it. Imap + 15 minute Fetch is good enough for me.

11/5/2009 9:43:57 AM

Anyone having problems with 3g this morning? Mine is non functional unless I switch it off and use edge.

11/6/2009 8:19:07 AM

got zaggs for it yesterday!

11/6/2009 11:12:02 AM

Has anyone else used Blackra1n and noticed it affecting their phone signal reception?

11/6/2009 11:35:59 AM

no

11/6/2009 11:36:34 AM

anyone's mms picture messages not getting delivered?

i've sent 3 out in the last week and none of my friends ever received them.

11/6/2009 12:31:12 PM

are they on at&t or another provider?

11/6/2009 12:33:56 PM

My push finally started working again after a week. Now i'm trying to set up my gmail calendar. Anything special i have to do? I turned it on push on the iPhone and created some events. Still not showing up on the iPhone though.

-and i just tried creating events on the iPhone calendar. Everytime i try to make and event and click "done" it deletes itself right away. WTF.

[Edited on November 6, 2009 at 12:50 PM. Reason : .]

11/6/2009 12:46:27 PM

^^^ worked for me yesterday

11/6/2009 12:47:29 PM

This is really annoying. If i turn on gmail calendar push nothing updates on my iphone calendar and i can't even create an entry. Every time i try to create an entry on the iPhone it just deletes itself after about 1-2 seconds.

- and now my entire inbox just went blank and it's not syncing anymore saying connection to the server failed. hopefully google gets things straight soon.

[Edited on November 6, 2009 at 1:20 PM. Reason : .]

11/6/2009 12:59:38 PM

Going on sea trials for a couple days and the other guy I am bunking with has an iphone. What are some good multi-player games (anykind) that work well over bluetooth?

11/6/2009 1:40:55 PM

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"Anyone having problems with 3g this morning? Mine is non functional unless I switch it off and use edge."

yep i could not get 3G to do anything this morning. Weirdest thing. I've been on EDGE all day long. I think I'm gonna try switching it back now though.

11/6/2009 3:12:53 PM

It was working again for me after 10am, sorry I didn't post again.

Who wants to write a TWW iPhone app?

11/6/2009 4:41:17 PM

TWW app would be neato.

http://phandroid.com/2009/11/02/droid-users-accessing-exchange-will-naturally-cost-you/

haha that sucks. Verizon is charging an extra $15/month for exchange support.

11/6/2009 6:46:42 PM

only on corporate accounts. It's the same as if you're using BES with a blackberry. You can get exchange access for the normal $30 data plan for personal accounts.

[Edited on November 6, 2009 at 7:01 PM. Reason : ]

11/6/2009 7:00:11 PM

TWW iPhone app ftw. I would pay 1.99 for that shit.

11/6/2009 10:51:43 PM

haha.

Quote :

"First iPhone worm rickrolls jailbroken phones by Nilay Patel posted Nov 8th 2009 at 10:48PM We sort of knew this would happen as soon as we heard about that iPhone wallpaper hack in the Netherlands -- a hacker named ikex has created what's apparently the first iPhone worm, and it's currently infecting jailbroken iPhones across Australia. The "ikee" worm, as it's being called, takes advantage of the fact that jailbroken iPhones with SSH installed all have the same default root password of "alpine," and once in the system it changes your wallpaper to an image of Rick Astley and then tries to install itself on other jailbroken iPhones on the network. Sophos says it hasn't confirmed any infections outside of Oz, and to be clear, this worm can't get to stock iPhones or jailbreak owners who haven't installed SSH -- but if you're running a hacked phone we'd say you should change that root password just to be safe right away. Get to it, kids."

11/9/2009 7:17:32 AM

don't know if this has been posted, but...

the naturespace app is awesome. it's free, you have to have headphones. put it on the beach one and close your eyes. if you're willing to shell out $10 for the thundergod one, it's way way more awesome. i can't wait to lay down in bed tonight. it's a binaural sound thing, not just pretty noises.

11/11/2009 8:34:31 PM

One of the biggest names in iPhone development, Joe Hewitt, creator of the facebook app, has decided to stop development on the iPhone platform because of troubles with Apple's app review process

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/11/joe-hewitt-developer-of-facebooks-massively-popular-iphone-app-quits-the-project/

[Edited on November 12, 2009 at 10:47 AM. Reason : .]

11/12/2009 10:42:28 AM

good read. I agree with him although I haven't started the approval process yet but I'm certainly not looking forward to it.

11/12/2009 11:39:43 AM

Nvm got it

[Edited on November 14, 2009 at 6:33 AM. Reason : .]

11/14/2009 6:25:07 AM

my battery is starting to get crappy again...I fully charged it yesterday and today it's already at 1/3 battery left.

11/14/2009 10:23:24 AM

lol mine rarely lasts more than 12 hours

11/14/2009 10:28:08 AM

really? mines pretty good. I've had it last 2 days before.

11/14/2009 10:30:12 AM

i use it constantly and have terrible reception in my office so i think that's why. if i'm just sitting around at home with good service and not using it much it'll last a day or two

11/14/2009 10:31:33 AM

I would write a tww app if I could get access to the backend

....

Better yet, I am considering adding a message board component to my "iCampus" application ...

Anyone know any good examples of UI for a message board/forum that is on an iphone app?

11/14/2009 11:28:38 AM

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"my battery is starting to get crappy again...I fully charged it yesterday and today it's already at 1/3 battery left. "

That seems pretty good. My almost-new blackberry storm lasts about as long as that.

11/14/2009 12:31:46 PM

okay new issue...my wifi now is grayed out and says no wi-fi when I am at home and I have a wi-fi network on this floor!

I've already tried reseting my network settings and have done a hard reset (pressing home and power button at the same time)

nothing helps!

11/14/2009 5:52:14 PM

woohoo just put the Navigon Europe maps on my iphone for my trip in a few weeks.

11/15/2009 7:30:56 PM

From what I remember reading when looking into some of my own wifi issues if the wifi option is grayed out the wifi chip is fried/done for. Genius bar for you.

11/15/2009 10:36:24 PM

Any good suggestions on a Twitter app? Seems like all of them either dont feature push notifications, or if they do, its not meant to be your only twitter app...Id prefer to just use one app if possible. Any suggestions?

11/16/2009 5:59:25 PM

I enjoy Echofon(formerly twitterfon) because it's simple. I don't think it has push...but then again I don't want to be annoyed by a push notification every 2 minutes.

11/16/2009 6:13:23 PM

^^Tweetie and Tweetie 2 (current version) is by far the best I've used. Very clean UI. Doesn't have push but i don't think I'd want push for twitter

11/16/2009 6:26:38 PM

i've been using tweetdeck

11/16/2009 6:27:13 PM

I also use echofon. Best of the free ones I have found so far

11/16/2009 6:54:28 PM

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"From what I remember reading when looking into some of my own wifi issues if the wifi option is grayed out the wifi chip is fried/done for. Genius bar for you."

shit that's not what I wanted to hear....my warranty was done this past august. Any ideas?

11/16/2009 7:29:55 PM

^you're a chick right? Just go in there and do what you do best...act dumb when it comes to technology and I"m sure they'll swap it out for you free of charge and give you a 90 day warranty on the new phone.

This works from experience...my friends iPhone's screen cracked because she dropped it and they swapped her screen out for free even though the phone was out of warranty.

11/16/2009 9:25:38 PM