Quote :

"You didn't know ahead of time? That sucks."

david, if you are talking about the blind situation, i knew what they would be, but i didnt htink about it till i was sitting there.

notice how they collect the 25 chips too early and force blinds of 200/300 in a 300/600 level.

now, what that initiates is the necessity to get buckwild open in the SB for one. each level youd have to readjust for the play of the SB and in the SB, and failure to do so will cose good bits of equity.

this also brings up another situation where it fucks up the split pots if the sb happens to fold.

for HI only hands, you want the sb to fold, allowing for an extra chip to be in the mix when the pot is split. the hi gets the extra chip, hence getting more for value for a high hand.

it may be marginal, but it just seemed to unnecessarily alter the game flow.


i also was irritated at the way the taj handled a situation where the dealer knocked a deck that was not being used off the rack. we had to stop 3 times in the middle of a round for them to do a setup change.

since two floor men had noticed the blunder, two different ones had gotten changes assigned.

the first one we were given new cards, played one hand, had to wait for another setup change then given an old assed warped deck where the dealers kept misdealing with due to the cards being sticky. then endure another setup change due to the frequent misdeals.

setup changes arent exactly the quickest thjing in the world, and with a slow game already, its frustrating to lose basically half a level due to shitty floormanship.

and many of the dealers kept doing a full wash after each hand which is incorrect and further slowed the game down.

9/24/2006 10:38:43 PM

raise

I had the same bs happen to me where I lost half level since we kept having to call over floormen because the dealer would misdeal or just do something else that was retarded. The fact they were dealing about 20 hands an hour didn't help either.

I am not sure what you mean by

force blinds of 200/300 in a 300/600 level.

[Edited on September 24, 2006 at 10:44 PM. Reason : ]

9/24/2006 10:41:23 PM

the quarters had been collected during the break

the blinds were then forced to be 2 100s and 3 100s in a 300/600 limit situation, istead of 150/300




so youd really raise there?

how often do you think youre on a draw to not get quartered?

[Edited on September 24, 2006 at 10:46 PM. Reason : e]

9/24/2006 10:46:28 PM

I would raise. If he has the nut low already then you still have the straight for the high with the nut flush draw. Even if he has the nut high you still have your flush draw. Are you really worried he has the nut high and the nut low?

9/24/2006 10:53:09 PM

im not really sure.

it just felt like i was going to get quartered.

i think this is one of those examples where plo8 and lo8 are completely different beasts.

i think i made a plo8 play in the wrong game.

obviously i was pissed he c/rd though, since it costs me money by the two other who more than likely would have continued calling into my monster. ill post the rest of this hand later.... this is the one i kessler rode me about for a while.


ill post some more hands tommorow that were of interest.


i know of atleast 3 specific hands that i donked to epic proportions, one fold i was proud of, and how i suck out g00t a few times. and got sucked out one a few times.

9/24/2006 11:03:40 PM

my bust-o hand was pretty disapointing.

9/24/2006 11:13:12 PM

remembered his name

james van alstyne was.... tough.


http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=9420

9/25/2006 7:38:44 AM

^^^all you're really calling in that spot is A279/A247, correct?

raise.




[Edited on September 25, 2006 at 4:34 PM. Reason : .]

9/25/2006 4:34:05 PM

anyone playing the TWWSOP tonight?

9/26/2006 7:26:57 PM

maybe, who else we got?

Just one person? What the hell? Worst host everrrrrrrrrrrrr!

[Edited on September 26, 2006 at 7:45 PM. Reason : ]

9/26/2006 7:43:34 PM

Well, since tonight's event was cancelled due to lack of participation. Here are the final standings of the TWWSOP 2006

Event 1: NLHE
1- pilgrimshoes (mrs fish)
2- xplosivo (btradio)
3- tomloes
4- linoleum24 (the hish)
5- noidroid
6- david0063

Event 2: Omaha Hi
1- david0603
2- xplosivo (btradio)
3- tomloes
4- noidroid
5- pilgrimshoes (mrs fish)

Event 3: NLHE
1- Ill Hellmuth (Boobs)
2- david0603
3- PearlJammed
4- xplosivo (btradio)
5- linoleum24 (the hish)
6- pilgrimshoes (mrs fish)
7- noidroid

Event 4: HORSE
1- pilgrimshoes
2- xplosivo
3- jashanno
4- hish

Event 5: Omaha H/L
1- xplosivo
2- The Hish 24
3- Mrs. Fish
4- weiyan8

Final Standings (best 4 finishes)
Pilgrimshoes:1, 5, 3, 1
Xplosivo: 2, 2, 2, 1
tomloes: 3, 3
hish: 4, 5, 4, 3
noidroid: 5, 4, 7
david0603: 6, 1, 2
boobs: 1
pearljammed: 3
jshanno: 3
weiyan: 4

Only Pilgrimshoes, hish and myself played at least 4 events. So I say the final results are:
1. Xplosivo
2. Pilgrimshoes
3. Hish

9/26/2006 8:16:26 PM

Fuck Hish. Where the hell is he?

9/26/2006 8:37:55 PM

im here.

9/26/2006 9:53:22 PM

My god, Jamie Gold is the luckiest fucker alive. I have never see somebody catch and hit so many cards at a final table in my life.

9/26/2006 10:10:59 PM

leavin for AC tomorrow night

9/27/2006 12:43:43 AM

give 'em hell

9/27/2006 8:56:45 AM

the more and more this happens, the more and more im disturbed by it.

Quote :

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9/27/2006 11:02:21 AM

What site is that from?

9/27/2006 11:59:27 AM

Will Hill

hope the other cryptos dont follow suit.. I was just starting to like that place

9/27/2006 12:41:44 PM

Ive never heard of that site.

9/27/2006 1:50:13 PM

Damn that sucks. Could be worse noid. Remember that one casino expekt or something?

9/27/2006 2:41:26 PM

expekt was one of the hottest deals ever though.

9/27/2006 4:06:29 PM

agreed Have you ever done the mansion bonus? That was pretty good too. $50 wager requirement = $90 from referral site

http://www.pokersavvy.com/r/6144

9/27/2006 4:18:32 PM

i havent bonus whored in ages.

if that mansion things requires a signup, im out, ive done a few sports book promos there before.

9/27/2006 4:20:44 PM

I don't really play much any more with work and stuff so every now and then I'll just pick a site and play few hundred hands in one night to knock out the bonus and then cash out.

Yeah, it requires signup so I guess that wouldn't work for you. Too bad. Nothing beats a $50 investment with a guaranteed $90 return.

9/27/2006 5:12:55 PM

pokertracker question here...

is it possible to see your stats or amount won for just a specific time period like per month or something? if so, where do i go to see this?

9/27/2006 6:29:06 PM

I really wish PT would add some more sites that it can use.

9/27/2006 6:46:55 PM

^^the preferences tab at the far right for your ring game stats.. session dates.. between dates

9/28/2006 2:57:13 AM

I listened to the main event as it happened, and am just now getting around to seeing it.

Jamie Gold is a total douchebag. He colluded with other players at least implicitly. He showed a card when there were more than 2 players in the tournament. He angled. And yet the most annoying was his insistence that he was trapping people and playing well when he did things like catching a 6-outer on someone.

God damn you Jamie Gold, for sullying the good name of poker. I'm going to start calling him Jamie Moneymaker.

9/28/2006 8:27:59 AM

wait wait,

when has poker ever had a good name?

angle shooting has been around since the game was created

9/28/2006 8:49:32 AM

^^He showed that card when he was heads up in a hand with another guy. And the dude could have won the pot if any of the players had brought over the tourney director, but none of them did. Im still not sure if I like him or not, he talked some mad shit, but its not like he was playing all that well, he just caught cards out the ass.

9/28/2006 10:44:50 AM

Quote :

"^^He showed that card when he was heads up in a hand with another guy. And the dude could have won the pot if any of the players had brought over the tourney director, but none of them did. Im still not sure if I like him or not, he talked some mad shit, but its not like he was playing all that well, he just caught cards out the ass. "

It doesn't matter if you're heads up in the hand, you must be heads up in the tourney to do that.
Also, you're right, someone should have called the director over. But Gold's soft-playing his friends, etc, is ridiculous.

Also, angling has been around since the game began. But its been against the rules for a long time too.

9/28/2006 10:59:35 AM

What is angling?

9/28/2006 11:22:47 AM

Angle-Shooting
Using unfair tactics.

Usage: A poker player who uses various underhanded, unfair methods to take advantage of inexperienced opponents. The difference between an angle shooter and a cheat is only a matter of degree. What a cheat or thief does is patently against the rules; what an angle shooter does may be marginally legal, but it's neither ethical nor gentlemanly. Nor is it in the spirit of the game. Unfortunately, poker is not a gentleman's game. In addition to learning how to protect yourself against cheating players, you must learn to watch out for the angle shooters. See "Angle".

Angle
An action that isn't against the rules, but still incorporates unfair tactics.

Usage: A maneuver, usually on the border between legality and illegality (but usually clearly unethical), to take unfair advantage of another player. Extreme example: Some clubs consider putting fewer chips than required into the pot an uncompleted bet that is not valid until completed, and that, furthermore, can be removed until such time as sufficient chips are bet. (Fortunately, there aren't many such clubs.) In such a club, you bet $100 and another player puts in $99. You show your cards, which have him beat. He says, "I put in only $99; I didn't call your bet." He withdraws the chips. Of course, if he had you beat, he would quietly take the whole pot. If someone pointed out at that juncture that he called only $99, he would probably say, "Oh, pardon me, just an oversight; I meant to call," add the missing chip, and then drag the pot. All of that is part of an angle.

http://www.pokernews.com/pokerterms/

9/28/2006 11:37:43 AM

see the difference between what mims is saying and the actual def. of angle shooting?

angle shooting is not illegal, but merely unethical.

its been around forever, and will continue to be around.

you'll see people angle shooting all the time in casinos, its usually the nittiest of the nits that know the rules well and are trying to exploit the players that dont.

[Edited on September 28, 2006 at 12:43 PM. Reason : e]

9/28/2006 12:43:00 PM

local poker update:

on tuesday turner took down stars $10r tourney for 10k. good job buddy.

last night i finished 6th in a 700 person field $20 tourney on stars.

today karim is playing in a $500 USPC event and after the first break is sitting with 16k in chips. you start with 5k, and the blinds are currently 100/200.

keep up the good work.

9/28/2006 1:58:46 PM

i talked to him during his dinner break, he had just dodged a huge bullet prior, to retain a stack of ~40k

i think there were around 60 left, top 27 cashing.

how it went, hes in the blinds iwth K6o.

utg limps, 2 way action, flop is K62,

check/check,

turns a J

he bets, other guy calls,

rivers a J

he checks, other guy pushes, karim folds, other guy has 66.

the J saved a good bit of money there.

9/28/2006 6:35:51 PM

Who all has played on Mansion? I have been reading some reviews, and it says something about having to prove your identity before you can cash out. One guy in a review mentioned you have to send a copy of your passport. Whats the deal?

btw that deal with them on PokerSavvy.com is awesome. You can clear it all in one bet in the sports book, you can wager $50 and be guaranteed $90 in poker points, so at worst you come out with $40 profit.

[Edited on September 28, 2006 at 7:45 PM. Reason : .]

9/28/2006 7:41:30 PM

Karim update...he is in the money and has 1/13th of the chips in play...its down to 2 tables...

lets try to make this 3 big nights for fellow wolf webbers.

9/28/2006 9:11:57 PM

I won a 10$ SNG last night so MAKE IT FOUR! haha

9/28/2006 9:40:46 PM

Go Karim

9/28/2006 10:21:51 PM

karim busted 11th...in the SB he had KK, BB put him in with QQ

BB turned a Q

either way, it was a good day for him!

9/28/2006 11:45:45 PM

rough ending, but great job karim.

9/29/2006 12:42:23 AM

I just got called a cheater and "fbi" in an online game

hahaha


sore losers are the worst

9/29/2006 2:14:30 AM

I played poker once. I lost. I played again. I was dealt a royal straight. I wonder what happens next game.

9/29/2006 2:38:51 AM

I played a "SnoopDogg" from "Los Angles"

I beat him in a heads up game and after I won.. I told him not to quit his jobby job.

9/29/2006 2:48:35 AM

What job was that?

9/29/2006 3:49:19 AM

A ROYAL STRAIGHT UHHHHH right....its called a royal flush dumb shit

9/29/2006 8:54:26 AM

Perhaps I should have given a better example of the angling that gets done OFTEN, even on television.

People act out of turn. When they were down to the final table, Gold folded his cards when Cunningham announced a raise even though there was still someone to act behind him.

Why is that a problem? Because now Cunningham knows he only has to deal with the people behind Gold. He can adjust the raise accordingly due to this new information that he wasn't entitled to at that point in the hand.

Acting out of turn is against the rules and shouldn't be done.

Other examples of angling that are not against the rules were listed before, and others include moving chips around to look like you're going to make a raise, and looking for your opponents reaction and then not betting the chips.

Matusow DID break the rules last year when he made forward motion with his chips and then pulled them back when the player looked ready to call. People who act out of turn or break betting rules like that should be dead in the hand. That's the way a good TD would handle it.

Maybe that doesn't fit the true definition of angling, but it is in the common usage of the term.

9/29/2006 11:27:35 AM

How did he break the rules?

9/29/2006 11:48:39 AM