ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
is it true that we have zero players left from the 2011 and 2012 classes 12/15/2014 11:15:04 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Attrition under Gottfried:
Lorenzo Brown Ryan Harrow CJ Leslie *Tyler Harris *Thomas DeThaey *TJ Warren *Rodney Purvis *Tyler Lewis
*should be on this team
Also, for this period of time this has to be the most in the nation. correct me if i'm wrong but this is off the top of my head.
(I'm including everyone even though i know some people will say most of them needed to leave. I, however, hold the position that only players who won't get playing time each game or can be a lotto pick should leave. Its obviously debatable) 12/15/2014 11:28:58 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
lol @ TDT getting minutes on this year's team 12/15/2014 11:31:44 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
How can you forget
* JEVONI BLACK MAMBA 12/16/2014 1:59:18 AM |
titans78 All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
You are wrong. Do you really think we lead the nation with 8 players over a 3-4 year period transferring or going pro?
Butler had 4 or 5 players transfer out just last season alone.
I know... I know... First rule of... 12/16/2014 5:46:50 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25536 Posts user info edit post |
you forgot Jaquan Raymond too, homie. 12/16/2014 8:24:33 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
12/16/2014 9:03:49 AM |
Wyld Stallyn Suspended 1087 Posts user info edit post |
Earl feeds off people arguing with him. In one of the game threads, no one argued with some dumb point he made and he asked if someone was going to argue with him. He gets off on you arguing with him.
Ignore him or at least just call him a fucking idiot and DONT TRY TO ARGUE and he'll go away. 12/16/2014 9:27:48 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
TJ Warren transferred to the Suns. What a shitty move on his part. 12/16/2014 12:14:51 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
our defense still isnt good. the stats are skewed a bit right now based off playing two teams filled with midgets in charleston southern and wofford back to back while having anya who to them is like a 7'8 version of shaq
once we get to acc play we better step up on offense like we did last year or this team is NIT bound. the way we did that last year was to have warren take all our shots. someone send lacey the pitt and bc tapes
[Edited on December 16, 2014 at 12:17 PM. Reason : f] 12/16/2014 12:15:49 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
-1000 saying they gotta guard us too pal. 12/20/2014 9:33:59 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25536 Posts user info edit post |
^not harsh enough
-10000, at least. 12/20/2014 9:36:03 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
give Doeren a lifetime contract just for not saying it, amirite mambagrl? 12/20/2014 9:36:48 PM |
alfredough All American 1121 Posts user info edit post |
Have we ever won a game where Gott was shown saying that? 12/20/2014 10:42:33 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "-1000 saying they gotta guard us too pal." |
Are you guys autistic? That was very clearly a joke given the delivery.12/20/2014 10:45:32 PM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on December 20, 2014 at 11:29 PM. Reason : .]
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The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Free throws defense rebounding turnovers
Pick one to teach. Just one. You have one job. 12/20/2014 11:44:22 PM |
Kickstand All American 11596 Posts user info edit post |
Choosing Anya to shoot Barber's free throws when Barber went down 12/20/2014 11:57:25 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25536 Posts user info edit post |
^that's WV's decision 12/20/2014 11:57:45 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
-4 credibility for losing two possessions by taking a guy off the FT line and having the missed front end go right where that guy wouldve been standing 12/20/2014 11:58:55 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
So wvu just beat us by showing up and playing. They were poor on offense and defense but won going away just because they were smarter. Most frustrating loss since st Louis. 12/21/2014 12:12:07 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25536 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Most frustrating loss since st Louis" |
a lot to choose from12/21/2014 12:13:20 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
i can't win with you. when i say something thats right, i'm wrong, because its too obvious to you that i'm right and when i'm wrong, i'm wrong because you can't see that i'm right and even when time proves me right, i'm still wrong because i was just trolling all along. 12/21/2014 12:22:59 AM |
ohmy All American 3875 Posts user info edit post |
just got back from the garden. so many coaching blunders tonight. in fact, it was like there was no coaching at all. embarrassing.
and wvu fans are the trashiest, most obnoxious fans I've seen. 12/21/2014 12:28:18 AM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
I'm no hater, but we were not prepared at all for their press. 12/21/2014 12:29:04 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25536 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i can't win with you. when i say something thats right, i'm wrong, because its too obvious to you that i'm right and when i'm wrong, i'm wrong because you can't see that i'm right and even when time proves me right, i'm still wrong because i was just trolling all along." |
i have no idea what most of this means. but i love your posts, e man. and sports talk wouldn't be the same without them.12/21/2014 12:40:13 AM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
I came here for the earl troll post. Wasn't disappointed. 12/21/2014 12:47:10 AM |
WolfPack2017 Veteran 218 Posts user info edit post |
How are wvu fans trashy? I've been to plenty of their games and they aren't that bad. You probably got mixed with a bad group. Kind of like the state fans that defended booing an injured player. Every fan base has their assholes. 12/21/2014 1:34:55 AM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm no hater, but we were not prepared at all for their press." |
this absolutely. was clear they werent drilled on when to pick up the ball or who to pass to
the second half was better but then huggins switched his defense
this one is on gott and ft shooting12/21/2014 3:14:14 AM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
So if Gottfried is to blame for not "drilling" on the press, is Kevin Ollie also a shitty coach since UCONN had about the same number of turnovers when they played (and lost to) WVU?
It would have been an upset if we had beaten these guys and with 5 minutes left, we were within 1. Yeah, it's disappointing, but you fellas need to adjust your expectations if you are seriously pissed we got beat by a better team (at this point in the season).
[Edited on December 21, 2014 at 9:37 AM. Reason : h] 12/21/2014 9:23:17 AM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Fair point. 12/21/2014 9:30:16 AM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
^^yes
[Edited on December 21, 2014 at 9:42 AM. Reason : M] 12/21/2014 9:41:59 AM |
WolfPack2017 Veteran 218 Posts user info edit post |
^^^
Some people in the thread were thinking that WVU was worse than us and that they shouldn't have been ranked. It's pretty easy to see the over-expectations by fans. Looking at the rest of our schedule I'm not too happy with our record so far, but I think we've done better than the talent on our team. 12/21/2014 10:45:53 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
We have better players than them. I dont think that means we should be ranked and they shouldnt but that definitely makes losing more frustrating. We are a far worse team. 12/21/2014 11:12:26 AM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
I didnt expect to win but West Va is sorely lacking from a talent perspective. Outside of Staten theyre probably less talented than VCU 12/21/2014 11:44:23 AM |
WolfPack2017 Veteran 218 Posts user info edit post |
You're kidding right? They have a solid team and great depth, and they without a doubt have a much better coach. I honestly can't see anyone on our team taking one of theirs. Maybe Anya because of his stature, but we are not strong enough or physical enough to compete with WVU. 12/21/2014 12:07:56 PM |
SuperDude All American 6922 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know if it's a coaching thing or a college basketball philosophy but it's like only one or two players may dribble past half court. If you're abig, thou shalt stand in place and pass to a guard as quickly as possible.
These three, four star players know how to dribble, some better than others. Surely they can dribble fifty feet and use their height to pass over the double team and allow the guards to break towards the basket. Presses doesn't happen much in pros because the players are good enough to eat you alive if you try.
It was frustrating listening to Bobby Knight because every shot is a bad one if you're not set. Trust the talent to use their athleticism. 12/21/2014 12:10:22 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Wolfpack2017 is probably burning couches as he posts 12/21/2014 12:36:30 PM |
WolfPack2017 Veteran 218 Posts user info edit post |
Lol someone is butthurt about the loss. I'm saying it's amazing that we even kept the game to 14 points considering how good they are (plus they beat the defending national champions in the Puerto Rico tip-off). So, I'm actually pretty happy about how well both of my teams did!
[Edited on December 21, 2014 at 12:42 PM. Reason : .] 12/21/2014 12:41:36 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25536 Posts user info edit post |
WV is solid, no doubt. Statistically, last night was one of their best offensive games of the year. They're a fringe top 25 team and were favored to beat us. But I don't necessarily think they're significantly better than us. This was a one point game with like 5 or so minutes left. 12/21/2014 12:53:28 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
I'm over the loss. I just think it's funny how you act like they're a Final Four team.
[Edited on December 21, 2014 at 1:01 PM. Reason : It's literally an unfathomable miracle that we only lost by 14 to that elite team] 12/21/2014 12:58:33 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
They cannot dribble. Our guarfs cant even dribble against pressure so of course our bigs cant. Abu couldnt keep the dribble below his head and washington kept jumping to pass. Cat cant pass out of a double team and cant back dribble to create space as one approaches. Balls are constantly slapped out of our guys hands evem anya because they havent been coached to hold it tight. These are all jv high school level mistakes.
Im also a coach and share some of knights perspective whe. Watching our games. Should help explain why im so critical. Our team takes all bad shots because there is no point guard or disciplined offensive system to create easy shots. Turner and lacey are just so damn elite that they can score efficiently on bad shots over good defense. They have no other choice either. Lacey is almost perfect and would start on all but a few teams. 12/21/2014 1:12:09 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Turner is elite? 12/21/2014 1:13:33 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah. Hes a top 5 shooter in the country. Going to be hard to notice because he rarely is setup with good looks.
Another reason im extra frustrated is because huggins is one of the guys along with bennett we should have jired 2 coaches ago. 12/21/2014 1:21:05 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Came to watch WolfPack2017 suck that WVU dick 12/21/2014 1:21:52 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25536 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Another reason im extra frustrated is because huggins is one of the guys along with bennett we should have jired 2 coaches ago." |
Was Bennett's name ever mentioned then? Just looking at his wikipedia page, he was an assistant at Wazzu when we hired Lowe.12/21/2014 1:23:47 PM |
WolfPack2017 Veteran 218 Posts user info edit post |
I never said WVU was a top four team. I'm just saying that WVU is much better than us and a lot of people weren't giving them credit. Also, I learned today that I am not allowed to root for more than one team. 12/21/2014 4:04:39 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm no hater, but we were not prepared at all for their press." |
This. And we are more talented than all three teams we have lost to.12/21/2014 4:45:21 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
I think you have blinders on, like if they're wearing red and white they must be just brimming with potential. 12/21/2014 7:47:06 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Missed the game completely, why are folks this mad? WVU is ranked & we're not, the L was expected
[Edited on December 21, 2014 at 8:17 PM. Reason : ] 12/21/2014 8:16:55 PM |