I met Art Chansky years ago. He is a certifiable asshole.

12/15/2010 5:26:40 PM

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"strictly Between Us"

12/15/2010 6:45:04 PM

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"Late this afternoon the word came down that Art Chansky, who is a big wheel at Tar Heel Sports properties, was out, apparently unexpectedly."

What does "out" mean? Fired? Left of his own accord? "Out" plus a ?critical? e-mail likely indicates that UNC is planning on keeping Davis. That's to say the guy quit because he didn't agree with the future direction of the program.

I'll have to read the e-mail.

[Edited on December 15, 2010 at 8:11 PM. Reason : -]

12/15/2010 7:55:46 PM

why people still send "private and confidential" emails is beyond me.

12/15/2010 9:12:57 PM

Atlantic vs Coastal head to head: 10-8 advantage Atlantic

BC: 2-1 -- W vs DU, UVA -- L vs VT
CU: 1-2 -- W vs GT -- L vs UM, UNC
FSU: 2-1 -- W vs UM, UVA -- L vs UNC
NCSU: 2-1 -- W vs GT, UNC -- L vs VT
UMD: 2-1 -- W vs DU, UVA -- L vs UM
WFU: 1-2 -- W vs DU -- L vs GT, VT

DU: 0-3 -- L vs BC, UMD, WFU
GT: 1-2 -- W vs WFU -- L vs CU, NCSU
UM: 2-1 -- W vs CU, UMD -- L vs FSU
UNC: 2-1 -- W vs CU, FSU -- L vs NCSU
UVA: 0-3 -- L vs BC, FSU, UMD
VT: 3-0 -- W vs BC, NCSU, WFU

12/15/2010 10:02:58 PM

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"NCAA enforcement wants to send message INDIANAPOLIS -- The new head of the NCAA's enforcement division is hoping penalties given out by the Committee on Infractions will be strong enough to warrant the amount of funds and hours spent in pursuing cases. "If we're going to be spending our resources targeting key issues, then the penalty needs to be strong on these issues," said Julie Roe Lach, who was appointed by new NCAA president Mark Emmert to replace long-time enforcement director David Price. Roe Lach met with a collection of national reporters in Indianapolis earlier this week. "The penalty needs to follow through with what kind of message we're sending," she said."

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/5929726/ncaa-enforcement-wants-send-message

12/17/2010 1:24:52 PM

[Edited on December 17, 2010 at 1:28 PM. Reason : .]

12/17/2010 1:27:27 PM

Someone look up this woman's past. She has to be the best piece of news I've heard on this front in a month or two.

12/17/2010 1:57:16 PM

12/17/2010 2:02:11 PM

lol

[Edited on December 17, 2010 at 2:05 PM. Reason : someone send this lady an edible arrangement]

12/17/2010 2:04:28 PM

For clarification, that is the new enforcement directory for the entire NCAA right? Not just basketball...since it is an article in a basketball section

12/17/2010 2:15:19 PM

They'll end up getting nothing more than a sternly worded letter and a 'no hard feelings' Hickory Farms gift basket, then we'll be stuck repeating:

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"If we're going to be spending our resources targeting key issues, then the penalty needs to be strong on these issues"

Over and over.

12/17/2010 2:22:58 PM

I like your style jbtilley...never get your hopes up too high...that way when the hammer DOES drop, it will be even more exciting

12/17/2010 2:47:00 PM

^

Just like every time State wins. A pleasant surprise instead of something that would normally make me pop a vein in my forehead.

12/17/2010 2:48:24 PM

12/17/2010 3:05:06 PM

I suppose it'll be something like the message they sent to the college football world with Cam Newton...

12/17/2010 4:07:31 PM

fuck unc and their arrogance

they all should be fired/hung for their lies.

if they spin their way out of this, then the ncaa is nothing more than a bunch of...

well, just fuck unc and their arrogance to think they could just do what the fuck they want.

You lay with dogs (Austin, Blake, Ramsay, tutor, et al) you get fleas. They made the decisions, they own the consequences.

[Edited on December 17, 2010 at 10:42 PM. Reason : fuck]

12/17/2010 10:41:31 PM

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"I suppose it'll be something like the message they sent to the college football world with Cam Newton... "

yeah, except they had no evidence that cam newton knew his dad asked for money. that and they still haven't found any evidence that auburn paid his pops.


back to the popcorn

12/17/2010 11:56:39 PM

y'all seen this

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/asset/colleges/unc/2010/12/17/8793529/090610_The_integrity_of_UNC.pdf

12/18/2010 12:33:59 AM

ha, wow.

you can tell that guy absolutely hates seeing football players get free passes. probably built up over 31 years. a lot of that email is rumors/stories, but where there is smoke, etc etc

and i watched the Pony Express 30 for 30 about SMU yesterday... maybe in a few years there will be one for UNC

[Edited on December 18, 2010 at 12:46 AM. Reason : .]

12/18/2010 12:44:21 AM

I like how this UNC grad basically says the whole university is cheating

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/asset/colleges/unc/2010/12/17/8793783/100810_Stop_apologizing_and_man_up.pdf

12/18/2010 1:53:55 AM

dunno if you've seen this or not...talk about UNC spin...Erskine Bowles implying how they should show outrage, and Thorp saying how he gave BMFD "very specific instructions" on what to say, etc

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/asset/colleges/unc/2010/12/17/8793681/093010_Davis_on_reports_about_Blake's_business_transactions.pdf

12/18/2010 3:08:59 AM

^^

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"with more than seventy students in line facing the undergrad honor court, that means more than 90% were non-footbal players........Why is there no "apology" for having seventy or more students, mostly who are not footbal players, standing in line facing the Honor Court on one day? "

LOL. Considering that 1% of the university's undergraduate students are on the football team, having 10% of the students waiting in line for the honor court be from the team seems pretty significant to me. What an idiot.

[Edited on December 18, 2010 at 10:28 AM. Reason : -]

12/18/2010 10:27:47 AM

Just finished looking at the last couple pages of the Packpride thread and the lack of outrage from the BOG is very telling.

12/18/2010 10:48:33 AM

^^ I wonder how many State student face the Honor court each time? 70 seems like a fucking lot. UNC is a bunch of cheaters regardless of athletics...

12/18/2010 11:44:32 AM

^The NCSU honor court is a facade. Paul Cousins runs the show, and what he says goes regardless of what the student chief justice says...as far as academic issues go anyway. A few dorms have their own courts to deal with drinking issues, but they are also trumped by Cousins.

12/18/2010 11:50:41 AM

UNC just nabbed a 5* Linebacker today, its pretty amazing during these times that major out of state athletes are still committing to the heels. Its not like the kid grew up in Chapel Hill or eastern NC with a huge UNC homer coach. This is a big time Virginia athlete, with offers all across the board, jumping on the butch wagon!

12/18/2010 12:58:32 PM

Why not play for a coach who can hep you get away with having contact with agents?

12/18/2010 1:38:39 PM

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"The NCSU honor court is a facade. Paul Cousins runs the show, and what he says goes regardless of what the student chief justice says...as far as academic issues go anyway. A few dorms have their own courts to deal with drinking issues, but they are also trumped by Cousins"

that's still better than the UNC "honor" court.

12/18/2010 1:45:18 PM

I am pessimistically doubt that the BOG or some else besides the NCAA would bring additional punishment to UNC. Additionally reading some of the released emails with Erskine, Thorp, Dicky,Davis and the BOG(UNC's members) I seriously doubt that anyone with major position will be sack after all this.

And over on IC they seems to avoid talking about some of the embarrassing emails (like Clemmons) or others from within there own but instead they have a thread dedicated to emails written to Thorp by NCSU alums.

12/18/2010 1:55:56 PM

I am pessimistic about the possibility of the BOG or any entity other than the NCAA bringing additional punishment to UNC. Reading some of the released e-mails with Erskine, Thorp, Dicky, Davis, and the BOG (all UNC members) makes me doubt that any high ranking officials will be sacked after all of this.

And over on IC, they seem to avoid talking about some of the embarrassing e-mails (such as Clemmons) or the others from within their own administration. Instead, they have a thread dedicated to e-mails written to Thorp by NCSU alums.

[Edited on December 18, 2010 at 2:15 PM. Reason : ]

12/18/2010 2:03:27 PM

^yea...that

12/18/2010 2:26:43 PM

^, ^^........wut?

12/18/2010 7:53:22 PM

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"I like how this UNC grad basically says the whole university is cheating http://www.wralsportsfan.com/asset/colleges/unc/2010/12/17/8793783/100810_Stop_apologizing_and_man_up.pdf"

Holy hell I can't believe I read that whole thing but it was quite entertaining.

12/18/2010 11:02:47 PM

From UNC's most recent commitment, Travis Hughes

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"I was kind of pulling toward Virginia Tech last night. But my brother and my father ultimately said that North Carolina would be my best fit."

Sound's like the family is getting some type of compensation

12/20/2010 4:17:21 PM

dang, didn't realize hughes committed to them. this is getting ridiculous.

12/20/2010 4:20:07 PM

thats the same Hughes who IC has quoted as saying "I fell in love with Carolina"

Why, cause your brother and dad convinced you to?

12/20/2010 4:21:53 PM

Is there something going on here that we don't know?

It is probable that UNC will come out of this unscathed?

How do they keep getting these high-profile commitments, even while some are decommitting?

Seriously, what's going on here?

12/20/2010 4:43:27 PM

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"Is there something going on here that we don't know?"

I'll bet there's a lot of stuff going on that even Butch Davis doesn't know about.

12/20/2010 7:54:04 PM

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"Holy hell I can't believe I read that whole thing but it was quite entertaining."

its long but very much worth it...hilarious

12/20/2010 8:09:35 PM

Why any kid would commit there with impending sanctions looming is beyond me. I could understand it if it was a die hard UNC kid who's dream was to play at UNC, but really this makes no sense.

12/21/2010 9:23:59 AM

My hopes lie in the idea that when the sanctions come down, all these players will jump ship, thus leaving UNC's incoming roster empty and their recruiting significantly behind schedule.


It's a small glimmer of hope....

12/21/2010 10:46:40 AM

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"But my brother and my father ultimately said that North Carolina would be my best fit."

sounds like butch went down to auburn and learned a thing or two.

12/21/2010 4:06:21 PM

i don't give a ram's ass if Butch is pulling in an entire lineup of 5* kids. Butch will not beat TOB

12/21/2010 4:29:36 PM

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"Butch will not beat TOB"

EVER

12/21/2010 4:30:34 PM

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"Why any kid would commit there with impending sanctions looming is beyond me. I could understand it if it was a die hard UNC kid who's dream was to play at UNC, but really this makes no sense."

Because Butch is lying out of his ass to them.


A zebra can't change its stripes, you guys. Just rest easy in knowing that when the hammer falls, these kids are gonna be left holding the bag, just like that poor kid at the U that Butch looked in the eye and lied to about it being his last job.


We can throw BMFD in the pantheon of humanity's greatest liars, along with Hitler, Kim Jong Il, Mao, and Dick Cheney.


Yep, I just said BMFD is equal to Hitler.

12/21/2010 7:26:40 PM

i'm more offended you compared him to dick cheney. wtf bro

12/21/2010 7:33:49 PM

Cheney is a much better liar

12/21/2010 7:42:07 PM

^^ It's a fair comparison. They both know not to shoot their mouths off. They let other people take the fall, and at least in Cheney's case, they shoot other people's mouths off. Amirite?

12/21/2010 8:01:43 PM

set em up...

12/21/2010 9:09:54 PM