I worry about the people that have to deal with you people IRL.


You people.

1/28/2012 1:28:18 PM

Put down the koolaid Bullet. Dude is the 5th best Juco MLB and the 20th best juco LB overall. They compare him to a 2* recruit

[Edited on January 28, 2012 at 1:36 PM. Reason : X]

1/28/2012 1:28:47 PM

you people

1/28/2012 1:29:24 PM

Quote :

"Furthermore I'll predict that we will go 3-2 out of conference"

holy dumbass

1/28/2012 1:30:54 PM

^^^sorry, wasn't aware of his lack of stars. he must suck.
put down the "haterade"

V I said "supposedly". And I went back and found the article I saw that in. (Of course, it was his coach who said it). http://hawkcentral.com/2012/01/25/iowa-offers-football-scholarship-to-robert-caldwell/.

And I did prove you wrong. You stated "We're not favored for any more remaining players". But we are. We'll see if we land him. Lol at you asking people to be "realistic".

[Edited on January 28, 2012 at 1:51 PM. Reason : ]

1/28/2012 1:31:22 PM

Im just saying you overhyped the shit out of him to try to prove me wrong. He's not "the best lb juco recruit in the country".

Lets be realistic here.



[Edited on January 28, 2012 at 1:35 PM. Reason : H]

1/28/2012 1:34:02 PM

Boobs,

Have you watched ANY of these recruits in person?

1/28/2012 1:40:21 PM

Boobs is like the Todd McShay of college football recruiting. He watches and breaks down tape of every high school football player in the country.

1/28/2012 1:49:02 PM

In all fairness if the guy was such a great prospect Iowa wouldn't be dropping him/he wouldn't be falling into our lap.

1/28/2012 1:52:35 PM

Because recruiting analysts certainly get to fully evaluate every single prep football player in the entire country...

Because your ecruiting rankings are sure are a great indicator of where your team will finish at the end of the year...

Some of y'all put way too much stock in this. I guarantee you TOB isn't using Rivals to determine what players he needs to go after. I agree that we do need to start getting more 4* and 5* coming here, but I feel like, top to bottom, this is one of the more solid classes we've had in a while and we have some big talent on our board for 2013. We can start pickin up major groud with in-state recruiting now that the snake oil salesman is out at THE UNC and if we can move to the SEC, that'll be a huge factor in tryin to keep this NC talent close to home.

[Edited on January 28, 2012 at 2:20 PM. Reason : *]

1/28/2012 1:56:07 PM

^
Wow. Calm the fuck down. Dead horse is dead. I was simply chiming in on the little "top juco lb in the country" spat.

Wait, never mind. I read your entire post. You're an idiot.

1/28/2012 1:57:58 PM

^that's really not a spat, i just said "supposedly the best" to rile boobs, while proving him wrong.

Serious question: Are there any 4 or 5* recruits who didn't attend at least several camps and combines? I'm willing to bet that the recruiting services probably have very few recruits (if any) ranked as 4/5*s who didn't have the money/time to attend the camps. Unlike basketball, there are many, many football players who fly under the radar (dead horse is very beaten).

(and it seems that Iowa decided to use their last scholly to recruit a JuCo RB, per the article on the previous page)

[Edited on January 28, 2012 at 2:08 PM. Reason : ]

1/28/2012 2:05:50 PM

^^don't be a boob, hey now

i wasn't even talking to you

1/28/2012 2:08:44 PM

^^
Of course not all the best kids attend the camps or get highly rated. But, teams full of 4 and 5 star kids win the national title every year, not the other way around. It matters at the highest level. Not necessarily at our level (Gator/Peach Bowl at best type programs). I'm very happy with the direction TOB has us headed in, because I have realistic expectations.

^
We're good.

1/28/2012 2:10:50 PM

Again, nobody's arguing that a 2/3*s are preferred over 4/5*s. I'd much rather have a class of 4/5*s. They're more likely to have impacts on their team. I just realize that the way football recruiting rankings are done, being a 2/3* doesn't necessarily mean they won't go on to excel in college, or at least be solid players. I know some of you disagree, but I think the staff has proven that they have have the ability to find underrated talent that they can coach into decent college players. I wish they'd get more 4/5*s, but let's be realistic, TOB isn't the type of coach to court and pander to a lot of those recruits that have lots of hype behind them. Maybe our next coach will, but for now, I'm content with what the staff is doing and the results they're getting.

1/28/2012 2:20:52 PM

What part of my post made you believe I disagreed with you?

1/28/2012 2:24:30 PM

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1323861

this is sad

1/28/2012 3:15:16 PM

rumors flying that Jarnor Jones who visited Kentucky yesterday, will flip to Kentucky


WTF

1/28/2012 3:22:32 PM

something about walking on to the Bball team.

1/28/2012 3:27:11 PM

Losing Summers isn't all that sad. We've got plenty of depth at QB, especially with Thomas and Stocker coming in this year. Sure, it'd be great if he was using his athleticism for us at WR or Safety, but it's not a huge loss. Losing Jones would suck, but then again, he's only a 3*! Stop being such a negative boob.

1/28/2012 3:29:55 PM

Okay look at the teams in each category. Besides Stanford's recent success, the rest of those teams in the 5 up haven't done shit. Now look at the 5 down. They are big time football schools. Do you think they care about a stupid class ranking, or are going to drop down to Rutgers' level? We could have a bunch of midgets out there and I wouldn't care provided we continue to win. We are poised to win at least 8 games, maybe more next season, and get a 6th straight win against UNC. Some analysts even have us in their early Top 25. That is a welcome change considering where we were in the mid to late 2000s.

1/28/2012 3:31:13 PM

Quote :

"In all fairness if the guy was such a great prospect Iowa wouldn't be dropping him/he wouldn't be falling into our lap."

I thought they hit their scholarship limit. But I don't keep up with this shit that much.

1/28/2012 3:32:07 PM

^^^yea a 3* that is unfortunately one of our best recruits, which is sad

[Edited on January 28, 2012 at 3:38 PM. Reason : X]

1/28/2012 3:38:30 PM

Once again,

Boob have you seen any of recruits play in an actual game?

1/28/2012 3:43:42 PM

I watch recruit highlights all the time on the 3 sites i have a subscription to. Have you? What are you implying? That when you watch HS games you can tell a player that everyone else thinks is a 2* player is actually a 4*?

1/28/2012 3:52:17 PM

No, I'm implying that you're making uninformed comments.

Are you implying you've watched every recruit's highlight video and know how our recruits stack up against the entire class?

[Edited on January 28, 2012 at 3:58 PM. Reason : ]

1/28/2012 3:55:32 PM

Quote :

"That when you watch HS games you can tell a player that everyone else thinks is a 2* player is actually a 4*"

Guy, many times, 2* recruits haven't even been evaluated by the ranking services.

1/28/2012 4:07:04 PM

^^ its really easy to say that as it not my job and you add no value by offering nothing but an impossible scenario where i would evaluate every prospect in the country and rank them accordingly. The people who get paid to do that have put out their findings which say we have the 10th or 11th best recruiting class in the ACC. I am excited about whitehead, hooker and jarnor jones(if he stays) and a few others, but the bottom half is pretty meh



[Edited on January 28, 2012 at 4:18 PM. Reason : D]

1/28/2012 4:16:12 PM

I'm also excited about Stocker, Hegedus, Coates, Thornton, and a couple of the OL guys. Also excited to see what Flowers, Brown and Jones can do from the previous year's class.

I know you study all of the recruits vids, but check Manny Stocker's higHligHts, if you haven't seen them yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1ugOPjTYKc

1/28/2012 4:20:50 PM

Both Rivals and Scout have us at #8 in the ACC.

http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=9&c=14&view=2&yr=2012
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncstate/football/recruiting/teamrank/2012/ACC/all

1/28/2012 4:33:06 PM

^^^and you assume there is no bias w/ these sites

1/28/2012 6:02:58 PM

^^ as i mentioned above, im going by avg stars/recruit, which i feel is a more telling stat

quality over quantity

^ im sure they dont give 2 shits about us and they have no reason to not look at our prospects objectively

[Edited on January 28, 2012 at 8:05 PM. Reason : v]

1/28/2012 8:04:19 PM

JuCo LB Caldwell commits. He'll be a junior, with 3 seasons to play 2. And I've read that he's a 3-star! Second LB to commit in a week at a much needed position.

TOB on recruiting: http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26895818/34613062

1/29/2012 6:05:51 PM

thank you bullet for brining pertinent information to this thread in the hopes that it diverts it from the fucking bitchfest that its become

1/29/2012 6:14:12 PM

Quote :

"I am excited about whitehead, hooker and jarnor jones(if he stays) and a few others, but the bottom half is pretty meh"

I was pumped as hell about Bobby Washington and AJ Davis at one point. I remembered being very mehhh about a couple of 2-star players named Nate Irving and Russell Wilson.

Just let it all play out and we'll see what happens.

1/29/2012 8:27:09 PM

I just hope the jarnor jones rumors arent true

1/29/2012 8:56:19 PM

lol at this ESPN article on college football recruiting

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7507996/dorial-green-beckham-gunner-kiel-rest-top-prospects-high-school-football

Quote :

"And then there are the contradictions within our own thought processes. A common one is the praising of a recruit's character and goods sense based on nothing more than his choosing our school. When a recruit is up for grabs, we hope he makes the "right" choice, and if he doesn't we'll say: "If he wants to go there, he's not the kind of kid we thought he was. Him and Rival U will be perfect for each other." That's how we do it. We want the kid until he doesn't want us. Look, kid, you're gonna do the hooking or you're gonna get hooked. You're either a Gator or you're gator bait. A recruit who selects my school made a well-reasoned decision. If he selected Rival U then he's been sweet-talked and I feel sorry for him, sorry that he fell for whatever lies and gifts they showered on him. I'm not sure I would want a kid so easily swayed, a kid of such flimsy character, playing for my team anyway."

1/30/2012 10:20:37 AM

haha

Quote :

"joined Tacoma-based cult that centers around the belief that Mount St. Helens is a portal to the gods — is awaiting rapture with hundreds of others at a defunct lumber mill."

1/30/2012 10:38:56 AM

I remember when i used to be excited about NSD.

Now there's only downside risk

1/30/2012 3:54:15 PM

How have you not jumped off a bridge yet you poor poor soul

1/30/2012 3:55:49 PM

When were you excited about NSD? How'd those seasons usually pan out?

Seriously boob, stop whining and crying, you sound like a bitch.


[Edited on January 30, 2012 at 4:21 PM. Reason : V So you really are being a debbie downer just to get attention? Eat a dick? Answer my question.]

1/30/2012 3:56:33 PM

Hahahahahahaha. Right on time

[Edited on January 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM. Reason : Works every time.]

[Edited on January 30, 2012 at 4:33 PM. Reason : S]

1/30/2012 4:10:03 PM

I think it would be great to have a top 25 , top 10 recruiting class, it's more exposure for the program. you get talked about in local new papers and on ESPN.

But as long as we continue to make positive steps on the field and win 8-10 games a year. i'll be happy.

the problem is when the starters, the experienced guys, get injured there is no "star" football player (or highly rated FR, RF, SO) on the team that can use their super athletic ability to overcome their lack of experience. So, that position(s) really drops off.

And that is what has happened the last few years.

1/30/2012 4:15:20 PM

^ I agree

and also it looks like boobs is bored at work or something today.

The Bullet dude is annoying though

1/30/2012 4:27:58 PM

We didn't do that bad when our starter got hurt and we sent in the 2nd team guy. It's when *that* guy also got hurt that it started to be a problem.

1/30/2012 4:28:07 PM

I guess the disappointment stems from growing up around a highly successful program(not ncsu obv) We have all the externals to be successful.

^^^^When amato was in town. Yes his teams sucked post PR which i blame on him and his inability to find a half decent qb and discipline the team

And those seasons usually turned out better on average (prob bc of PR) than the last uneventful 4 years

[Edited on January 30, 2012 at 4:39 PM. Reason : D]

[Edited on January 30, 2012 at 4:40 PM. Reason : I]

1/30/2012 4:37:58 PM

NCSU will never be a michigan or alabama or lsu or notre dame

get over it bro

1/30/2012 4:42:54 PM

who is nsd?

1/30/2012 4:49:21 PM

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