nope.

1/29/2010 7:30:27 PM

My gmail account is fucking up now. None of the attachments load. My friend is sending me images to my gmail account via both his iphone and a computer, and it says there's an attachment, shows the size, but there's no thumbnail, image doesn't load, and when i download it it's an empty file. WTF google.

-ok scratch that. it's not my iphone. iphone sends photos just fine using my ncsu account.

It looks like this is googles fault. I can't send or receive attachments with my gmail account. Should i just wait and see if they fix it?

[Edited on January 29, 2010 at 7:47 PM. Reason : s]

1/29/2010 7:34:20 PM

well, it was bound to happen sooner or later: I dropped my iPhone in the toilet this weekend

Amazingly, everything still works EXCEPT the home button. I'm going to give it a few more days to completely dry out in its bag of rice, but I was just wondering if anyone has had this happen and what the fix was.

When I turn the phone on, the voice control dialog pops up which leads me to believe that the button is stuck in the 'on' position. I'm hoping there is just a little bit of water left in there and it's shorting the button.

2/1/2010 11:07:52 AM

at worst the screen is pretty easy to take off.. not sure how easy that button would be to replace, but i imagine parts exist if you wanted to change it out

http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135903

[Edited on February 1, 2010 at 11:18 AM. Reason : oh yeah.. google, $6.99 for a new button]

2/1/2010 11:17:34 AM

^only problem with that $6.99 "easy fix" is that you have take out the LCD screen and digitizer to get to the button, which is NOT easy. I've also heard that you can replace the entire dock connector assembly (which is what the button plugs into), it's a little more $$ but is much easier to replace.

I'm mostly just putting this out there to see if anyone has had a similar experience.

2/1/2010 11:28:39 AM

^the screen is easy if you have the right tools. I've done it once and it was quite simple and straight forward.

2/1/2010 2:29:47 PM

dropped mine in a urinal...it didnt get completely submerged and I had a case on it, so there was little problem for me. It pooped up with errors like "this device does not work on the iPhone" for about a week. haven't had a problem since

2/1/2010 7:08:10 PM

haha

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"dropped mine in a urinal..."

then...

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"It pooped up with errors like "this device does not work on the iPhone""

2/1/2010 7:12:26 PM

HAHA, nice

2/1/2010 7:14:11 PM

I'm getting those pop-up errors too. I think I might just replace the dock connector assembly. Found one for $20, so I'm going to give it a shot.

2/2/2010 9:45:41 AM

i'm waiting on my part from China to try and fix my phone, but in the meantime I jailbroke and installed mquickdo, which takes care of my no-home-button problem.

2/3/2010 8:58:45 AM

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"dropped mine in a urinal...it didnt get completely submerged and I had a case on it, so there was little problem for me. It pooped up with errors like "this device does not work on the iPhone""

I dropped mine Saturday while snowboarding, it sunk in about 4" of powder. I got it out really quickly, dusted it off, blew out the connection port, and put it back in my jacket. I checked it on the chairlift ride and it worked, but two of those same errors popped up. It happened again Sunday until I turned it off and back on. It's been fine ever since, but had me worried for awhile.

2/3/2010 11:40:13 AM

Looks like I'm about to be on iPhone #5.

Got a new 3GS two weeks ago. The touchscreen is freaking out on me more and more frequently.

These things have the shittiest quality control I have ever seen in a market leading consumer device (including the xbox 360).

2/4/2010 12:27:22 AM

Why wouldn't you keep your phone in a ziplock bag if you knew you were going to be in a wet environment?

2/4/2010 12:29:13 AM

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"Looks like I'm about to be on iPhone #5. Got a new 3GS two weeks ago. The touchscreen is freaking out on me more and more frequently. These things have the shittiest quality control I have ever seen in a market leading consumer device (including the xbox 360)."

What are you doing to your phones? I have to disagree about the QA. I'm pretty reckless with my phone and my 3GS is still in perfect working order. The only issues i've had with my past phones has been dropping it on concrete. Granted the phone worked just fine after that but I just didn't like having shards of glass falling out into my ear or getting stuck on my finger. Then again I can't fault the iPhone because glass breaks.

that being said, the materials they've used might not be the best at being scratch resistant but at least the components are top notch and the build quality is top notch.

Also I, too, am on phone #5 because I've bought a new phone each gen. which = 3. then I dropped the 2nd gen twice and shattered the screen so had it replaced = 5.

[Edited on February 4, 2010 at 12:42 AM. Reason : .]

2/4/2010 12:40:48 AM

Nothing man. This phone has never been dropped or anything.

Phone #1 had a faulty sim card slot that ruined the sim card.
Phone #2 had wifi problems, the Apple people told me it needed to be replaced
Phone #3 bricked itself with the 3.1 update, never came back
Phone #4 started freaking out with the touch screen after two weeks

The first three phones had all been dropped several times, but never more than a foot or so, no visible damage at all.

2/4/2010 12:44:34 AM

well, this is coming from the microsoft employee, after all.

2/4/2010 12:47:28 AM

twat did you say?

2/4/2010 12:52:58 AM

you're not exactly the most impartial person

2/4/2010 1:00:53 AM

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"Why wouldn't you keep your phone in a ziplock bag if you knew you were going to be in a wet environment?"

My snowboard jacket is plenty waterproof and there's a nice little padded spot inside an interior zipped pocket that protects it just fine. My problem was that I (like an idiot) forgot to zip the interior zipper during a previous chairlift ride, then I had a major crash going down Tom Terriffic that dislodged it from the pocket. But thanks for the suggestion, I'll definitely do that come wakeboard season.

^^^^Holy crap, sorry about your luck dude, that sucks. good luck with the next one.

2/4/2010 9:10:16 AM

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10092377-94.html

2/4/2010 9:38:03 AM

^Nice, looks like I am just having shitty luck

2/4/2010 10:13:36 AM

^it happens. My feelings towards any electronic or gadget is your odds of having problems is higher than not having problems regardless of what the statistics say

2/4/2010 11:02:43 AM

Ive had my 3g for well over a year now and its still going strong. May look to get a new one after my 2 years is up depending on what may be on the horizon.

2/4/2010 11:21:30 AM

just last night i had to restore/set up as a new phone for the 2nd time in the past few months. i downloaded twitterific and the battery started draining like there's no tomorrow. it would charge in about 10 mins to 100% then drain again. same thing that happeened before except the app was photoshop. my phone thinks it's new now and i will not use either app again. this is not fun.

2/4/2010 11:30:05 AM

^that problem was supposedly just fixed in the latest iPhone OS update.

2/4/2010 1:25:11 PM

good. it says i have 3.1.3 or something like that now. it was 3.1.2. hopefully this won't happen again

2/4/2010 1:33:11 PM

http://developer.apple.com/iphone/news/archives/2010/february/#corelocation%23corelocation

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"If you build your application with features based on a user's location, make sure these features provide beneficial information. If your app uses location-based information primarily to enable mobile advertisers to deliver targeted ads based on a user's location, your app will be returned to you by the App Store Review Team for modification before it can be posted to the App Store."

Awesome.

2/5/2010 1:05:55 PM

^ are you being sarcastic?

That IS awesome...

2/5/2010 1:36:27 PM

That's crap. Why should Apple be involved? If you don't want to give your location out, turn off Location Services or click the little "Don't Allow" button when the application asks to use your current location.

2/5/2010 1:48:59 PM

^ Why does a developer have to develop for APple’s devices? If they don’t like the terms, let them bolster the Droid’s or BlackBerry’s (haha) app store.

2/5/2010 8:05:44 PM

Nice avoidance. It's an idiotic restriction that does nothing except hurt App developers.

You and 1337 b4k4 seem to think it's "awesome" though. Care to mention why?

(Also, it's almost poetic how the two people who think this is awesome have some form of "idiot" right in their user names)

2/5/2010 10:07:16 PM

It's awesome because it's basically telling developers that if they can't come up with a use for the core location features (and by extension the power consumption that goes with it) other than serving up ads, then they don't want your app. That is without a doubt a good thing.

2/5/2010 11:56:59 PM

^^ haha

The iPhone only has the largest app library of all the phones.

Those poor, beleaguered iPhone developers...

2/6/2010 12:27:56 AM

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"It's awesome because it's basically telling developers that if they can't come up with a use for the core location features (and by extension the power consumption that goes with it) other than serving up ads, then they don't want your app. That is without a doubt a good thing."

Who does this benefit? Again, you're prompted before anything even uses your location, so why is Apple sticking their nose in it? How is this not something that should be at the discretion of the user and the developer?

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"The iPhone only has the largest app library of all the phones."

You seem to find it hard to grasp, but that has absolutely nothing to do with anything we're discussing here. I realize it's an awesome talking point, but it's about as relevant as me mentioning that iTunes is a piece of shit.

2/6/2010 11:57:49 AM

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"Who does this benefit? Again, you're prompted before anything even uses your location, so why is Apple sticking their nose in it? How is this not something that should be at the discretion of the user and the developer?"

It benefits everyone. It's apple saying that the iPhone is not, and will not be simply another method of delivering advertisements to people. It's making it so that the experience of the iPhone is not the same as modern computers where the first thing everyone installs is an ad blocker and people don't have to sit there and ask themselves why every game and app they install wants to know where they are.

2/6/2010 12:41:59 PM

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"It's making it so that the experience of the iPhone is not the same as modern computers where the first thing everyone installs is an ad blocker"

If Apple is so concerned about this, then why not ban ads entirely or have Mobile Safari come with a built-in ad blocker? Obviously they don't have a problem with ads, nor do they have an issue with location targeted ads provided they're in an application that is using your location for something else.

Here's an example, Yelp can ask me for my location so it can find local businesses and if they want to run ads, they do can so using my location information. This would be fine and dandy with Apple. In theory a New York Times app really has no reason to know my location since the paper really doesn't provide me with any local information in Raleigh, NC -- why should they not have the option of asking me for my location so they can serve local ads? Doesn't benefit them. Doesn't benefit me.

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"and people don't have to sit there and ask themselves why every game and app they install wants to know where they are."

Does the normal, everyday Apple user have a lot of trouble hitting a "Don't Allow" button? Does it require some complicated thought process that I'm unaware of?

Now see, a better use of Apple's time would be developing the iPhone platform to set App specific awareness of whether you want the App in question to access your current location. Then you could just set "Yelp" to always be able to access your current location, whereas 7 Cities Tower Defense you could set to "Always Deny" and this whole idiotic decision would be moot. That would be a whole lot more beneficial to iPhone users than this random, pointless ban.

2/6/2010 1:06:09 PM

Sounds like someone is a stalker.

2/6/2010 1:13:57 PM

I agree that it's a good thing but Apple isn't doing it to look out for the user, the reason Apple is sticking their nose in it is because they want to have control of location based advertising themselves

http://gizmodo.com/5464403/a-hint-at-apples-mobile-advertising-plans-location-location-location

2/6/2010 2:00:28 PM

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"If Apple is so concerned about this, then why not ban ads entirely "

Well, for one because ads aren't necessarily evil. Ads that use up more resources and battery life are.

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"or have Mobile Safari come with a built-in ad blocker"

Well, a side effect of not having flash is that 95% of the most obnoxious, intrusive, annoying and resource hogging ads are blocked by default.

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"Does the normal, everyday Apple user have a lot of trouble hitting a "Don't Allow" button? Does it require some complicated thought process that I'm unaware of? "

See the dangers of the damn UAC stuff in Vista and the continued installation of crappy tool bars and spyware on modern computers. If you condition your users to constantly dismiss dialog boxes in order to get on with their lives, eventually they stop reading them or disable them all together. Neither of which are good things.

Quote :

"Now see, a better use of Apple's time would be developing the iPhone platform to set App specific awareness of whether you want the App in question to access your current location. Then you could just set "Yelp" to always be able to access your current location, whereas 7 Cities Tower Defense you could set to "Always Deny" and this whole idiotic decision would be moot. That would be a whole lot more beneficial to iPhone users than this random, pointless ban."

Ah yes, then we can have a list of 60 aps to sort through in our setting menu to specify whether or not we want each company to know where we are when we run their apps.

No I think I prefer a simple blanket policy that says if you use core location, it should be for something other than just serving ads. I can say with 99% certainty that the number of developers who had an application that they could only bring to market with localized ads (that mind you could also be gotten by the developer having the app ask you for your zip code) and because of this policy will starve and never bring their app to the world is 0.

^ Is one developer twitering an off hand speculation on possible Apple plans really all it takes to get Engadget to have write full page articles of speculation? Really?

[Edited on February 6, 2010 at 3:15 PM. Reason : sdfg]

2/6/2010 3:10:18 PM

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"If you condition your users to constantly dismiss dialog boxes in order to get on with their lives, eventually they stop reading them or disable them all together. Neither of which are good things."

You mean like the constantly dismissed "X Application would like to use your location?" prompt that you don't want to get rid of because:

Quote :

"Ah yes, then we can have a list of 60 aps to sort through in our setting menu to specify whether or not we want each company to know where we are when we run their apps."

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Quote :

"I can say with 99% certainty that the number of developers who had an application that they could only bring to market with localized ads (that mind you could also be gotten by the developer having the app ask you for your zip code) and because of this policy will starve and never bring their app to the world is 0."

Doesn't change the fact that it's an idiotic policy. Then again "lets remove functionality since we think our clientle is too stupid for it" seems to be the Apple mantra when it comes to the iPhone.

2/6/2010 3:52:45 PM

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"You mean like the constantly dismissed "X Application would like to use your location?" prompt that you don't want to get rid of because: "

Are you really this dense? Do you seriously not see the difference between a world in which an application asking you to provide your location is always asking because of some function the app provides as opposed to a world where it could be functionality or it could be ads? I imagine then that you find the UAC in Vista to be a shining example of user friendliness and application and computer security.

Quote :

"Doesn't change the fact that it's an idiotic policy. Then again "lets remove functionality since we think our clientle is too stupid for it" seems to be the Apple mantra when it comes to the iPhone."

What "functionality" was removed here?

2/6/2010 6:30:12 PM

What bugs me more than when the iPhone didn't have copy and paste is its lack of a find/search feature in safari. I'm constantly looking at forums or wikipedia on my iPhone and it's almost impossible to find something particular if it's really long. This annoy anyone else? Any integrated jailbroken/appstore apps for this?

2/6/2010 6:37:16 PM

Quote :

"Are you really this dense? Do you seriously not see the difference between a world in which an application asking you to provide your location is always asking because of some function the app provides as opposed to a world where it could be functionality or it could be ads? "

Doesn't change the fact that a popup is a popup and according to you:

Quote :

"If you condition your users to constantly dismiss dialog boxes in order to get on with their lives, eventually they stop reading them or disable them all together. Neither of which are good things."

Which is exactly the way the system works now. What ever happened to the "if you don't like the App; don't use it" mentality? Why not let the market handle itself on this one? What is the need for an executive order from on high?

I realize that between you and moron, you'll never accept anything Apple does as less than perfect, so in hindsight this is a pretty silly argument to be having with you. Again, I should've been tipped off by your screen names from the start.

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"What bugs me more than when the iPhone didn't have copy and paste is its lack of a find/search feature in safari."

It's ironic because a huge deal was made about how awesome the Search feature was in Safari 3 when it came out.

2/6/2010 7:01:51 PM

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"Doesn't change the fact that a popup is a popup and according to you:"

A pop up is not always a bad pop up that's the whole damn point. Clearly this is a very high level concept for you, so I'll provide you with a basic explanation. Once you understand it, we'll work on getting you to understand the wider application of the point. So without further ado, you can start your education here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf

Quote :

"What ever happened to the "if you don't like the App; don't use it" mentality? Why not let the market handle itself on this one? What is the need for an executive order from on high?"

The market will decide, if it turns out that users just can not live without applications which suck down more battery power from their phones just to display ads to them, then they will buy other phones. Somehow I don't think we're going to see a migration of iPhone users or developers over this policy.

Quote :

"Again, I should've been tipped off by your screen names from the start."

Says the guy who apparently failed critical reading.

2/6/2010 7:36:48 PM

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"It's ironic because a huge deal was made about how awesome the Search feature was in Safari 3 when it came out."

You mean for OSX? I need to find an app for this. I'm tired of scrolling through pages trying to find a keyword. It's painful. Things like this have come out:

http://www.tipb.com/2009/07/22/iphone-pro-tips-find-text-safari-javascript-bookmarklet/

Still needs to be more integrated.

2/6/2010 8:48:27 PM

the logitech touchmouse is pretty nice especially for a free app, works really great if you have a computer hooked up to a monitor in another room

2/7/2010 11:02:15 PM

I've been using HippoRemote for the same functionality. cost $.99 but didn't require me to install another server app (like it required with that logitech app). it uses VNC, which i already had installed anyways

2/7/2010 11:18:57 PM

Air Mouse Pro is awesome.

2/7/2010 11:27:36 PM

my first gen iphone looks like it's been at the front lines of afghanistan. It's dented all to shit, the screen is shattered, and everything still works perfectly. I've dropped the thing countless times (I always forget that it's wedged between my legs when I get out of the car and most of the drops happen right as I'm getting out of my car) before it finally cracked the screen all to hell not too long ago.

But impressively, all of the damage is ultimately cosmetic. It's a little more painful to look at the screen in its current state, but no functionality lost.

2/8/2010 8:22:40 AM