did you even read the paper? no you didnt cause you're afraid to read it and see how full of shit you are and how you've once again been proved wrong.

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"In his response, Professor Alan Dershowitz demonstrates"

if you bothered to read it you would see how he explains the paper is full of holes and illogical based information.

http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/research/working_papers/dershowitzreply.pdf

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"The working paper by Academic Dean and Professor Stephen Walt and Professor John Mearsheimer presents a conspiratorial view of history in which the Israel Lobby has a “stranglehold” on American foreign policy, the American media, think tanks and academia. In his response, Professor Alan Dershowitz demonstrates that the paper contains three types of major errors: quotations are wrenched out of context, important facts are misstated or omitted; and embarrassingly weak logic is employed. One of the authors of this paper has acknowledged that “none of the evidence represents original documentation or is derived from independent interviews.” In light of the paper’s errors, and its admitted lack of originality, Dershowitz asks why these professors would have chosen to publish a paper that does not meet their usual scholarly standards, especially given the risk – that should have been obvious to “realists” - that recycling these charges under their imprimatur of prominent authors would be featured, as they have been, on extremist websites. Dershowitz questions the authors claims that people who support Israel do not want “an open debate on issues involving Israel.”"

4/13/2006 1:00:45 PM

You're a coward. salisburyboy. Is hiding behind a computer not enough? You won't even give me a direct answer.

I don't care how you think God feels, do YOU hate jewish people?

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"Please continue your DENIAL tactics. And please continue the baseless name-calling."

What am I denying here? How is calling you a coward baseless? You won't even say how you feel about jewish people while hiding behind a computer on TWW. That is cowardice.

[Edited on April 13, 2006 at 1:10 PM. Reason : 666]

4/13/2006 1:06:15 PM

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"So do you understand that there is a difference between the existance of an Israeli lobby versus a group of satanic edomite bankers that secretly control world events? "

For the most part, those are two completely separate groups. However, there is some overlap. The cabal of Zionist bankers are at the top of the hierarchy in terms of power and control. They are, in effect, the top "Israeli lobbyists." The other members of this Zionist/Israeli lobby (eg, the PNAC members and other Israeli/American dual citizens in the Bush Administration) are merely agents of the Zionist Cabal at the top, doing the bidding of the Zionist Cabal who are ultimately calling the shots.

4/13/2006 1:08:10 PM

Do you hate jewish people?

4/13/2006 1:10:42 PM

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"I follow what God says. God hates the Edomite false "jews." Is that clear enough for you?"

4/13/2006 1:11:23 PM

That doesn't answer the question at all, regardless of how many times you post it.

Do YOU hate jewish people?

4/13/2006 1:12:33 PM

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"answer a single question from those i put below this that has been asked before in this thread with something other than an article you just grabbed from some random site and i will apologize. who are the people who have voiced support for salisburyboy? By the way, how did the zionists cause the US Civil War and the Revolutionary War? So do you understand that there is a difference between the existance of an Israeli lobby versus a group of satanic edomite bankers that secretly control world events? no cutting and pasting please."

4/13/2006 1:14:01 PM

^
did you see what I posted just 5 posts up?

4/13/2006 1:16:11 PM

Do YOU hate jewish people?

4/13/2006 1:17:08 PM

who are these "zionists" at the top?

4/13/2006 1:33:46 PM

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"Do YOU hate jewish people?"

If by "hate" you mean to VEHEMENTLY OPPOSE...then, generally speaking, yes I hate Jews. I am vehemently opposed to most of them.

Similar to how many people who believe the official 9/11 story may say that they "hate" muslims or radical muslims. They are expressing their intense opposition to those individuals or groups of people who are their (real or perceived) enemy.

4/13/2006 1:38:40 PM

hey salisburyboy

drop some $$ Bobby Fischer quotes and I'll think slightly more of you

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"I say death to President Bush, I say death to the United States. Fuck the United States, fuck the Jews, the Jews are a criminal people, they mutilate their own children, they're a murderous, criminal, thieving, lying, bastards. They made up the Holocaust, there's not a word of truth to it. They are the worst liars and bastards. And now, what goes around, comes around, they're getting it back, finally. Praise God... Hallelujah, this is a wonderful day. Fuck the United States. Cry, you crybabies. Whine, you bastards. Now your time is coming."

— Bobby Fischer, September 11, 2001

4/13/2006 2:05:08 PM

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"yes I hate Jews."

Was that so hard, little buddy? Now how about Mexicans? You sure seem to hate them, even though God doesn't tell you to.

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"Similar to how many people who believe the official 9/11 story may say that they "hate" muslims or radical muslims."

I've never heard anyone say that. Generally only very small minded people hold such knee jerk emotional feelings.

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"You just said that Afghanistan was invaded so that a pipeline could be built. Now you're saying that the zionists wanted to prevent the building of a pipeline - just like how Iraq was invaded to secure the oil supply even though the zionists don't care about the oil supply. How do you reconcile all of the conflicting information that you spout off on here? By the way, how did the zionists cause the US Civil War and the Revolutionary War? I would also like to see some proof that Pearl Harbor was caused by the evil edomite zionists."

I assume that the Civil War was fought to end slavery in the south, destroying free labor, and paving the way for an influx of illegal immigrants from Mexico 140+ years later.

4/13/2006 2:05:50 PM

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"who are these "zionists" at the top?"

The Rothschild family for starters. The Rothschilds are, by far, the wealthiest family on earth and are believed to have a fortune of over 300 Trillion dollars. They are a Jewish banking family.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayer_Amschel_Rothschild_family

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"Mayer Amschel Rothschild family The Mayer Amschel Rothschild family (often referred to simply as The Rothschilds, even though there are some people called Rothschild who do not belong to this family) is an eminent international banking and finance dynasty of German Jewish origin that established operations across Europe, and was ennobled by the Austro-Hungarian and British governments. [...] Zionism The Rothschilds were supporters of the State of Israel, and Baron Edmond James de Rothschild was a patron of the first settlement in Palestine at Rishon-LeZion. In 1917 Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild was the addressee of the Balfour Declaration, which committed the British government to the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people."

[Edited on April 13, 2006 at 2:12 PM. Reason : `````````]

4/13/2006 2:12:31 PM

Wow. The Rothschilds. I didn't know that people still bought into outdated 19th century anti-semitism, but I expect no less from you.

They engineered the Nazi's rise to power as well as the Holocaust, right?

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"As prominent Jews active in politics as well as business, the Rothschild family has been a target for anti-semitism throughout its history. Many family members were persecuted by the Nazis, and one, Elisabeth de Rothschild, died in Ravensbrück concentration camp"

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"Nevertheless, during World War II they had to surrender their bank to the Nazis and flee the country. Their Rothschild palaces were confiscated and plundered by the Nazis."

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"The 1934 Hollywood film titled The House of Rothschild, starring George Arliss and Loretta Young, recounted the life of Mayer Amschel Rothschild. Manipulated excerpts from this film were incorporated into the Nazi anti-semitic film Der ewige Jude and another anti-semitic German film Die Rothschilds (also called Aktien auf Waterloo) was directed by Erich Waschneck in 1940."

You have provided absolutely no evidence at all that they are the zionists at the top running world events. They were a prominent family that supported the creation of a jewish state, that is all. Please provide some evidence other than "Here are some rich jews!"

4/13/2006 2:27:27 PM

wow

listening to mussaoui's testimony

he sounds a lot like salisburyboy

4/13/2006 2:31:43 PM

the rothschilds.
honestly?
no really. are you serious?

4/13/2006 3:43:44 PM

YOU'RE JUST TROLLING

4/13/2006 4:21:51 PM

ARAB/MUSLIM WORLD KNOWS THE TRUTH: 9/11 WAS A ZIONIST FALSE FLAG OPERATION


http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25995

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"Prominent Arabs blame 9-11 on Jews Middle East media filled with talk of 'Zionist conspiracy' January 10, 2002 © 2002 WorldNetDaily.com High-ranking public officials and prominent columnists in the Middle East are promoting a claim that Jews perpetrated the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on New York City and the Pentagon, according to Arab media sources translated by MEMRI, the Middle East Media Research Institute. [...] While many in the Middle East speculate the culprit could be the U.S. itself, the most popular view among Arab media reviewed by MEMRI is that Israel, world Zionism, the Mossad, or, simply, the Jews carried out the attacks. Syrian foreign minister Mustafa Tlass has claimed that the Mossad planned the ramming of two hijacked airliners into the World Trade Center towers as part of a Jewish conspiracy."

Mossad helped carry out 9/11! OMG, how "preposterous." That's just the ravings of "anti-Semitic" muslims. Oh, right....what about those 5 Mossad agents dressed in Arab clothing arrested on 9/11 after seen filming the WTC attack and celebrating? And the Jewish neo-cons saying in PNAC publications that "a new Pearl Harbor" event would help advance their agenda? Oh, just forget about that. It was Arabs who carried out 9/11, just like the government and MSM said.


http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=29849

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"Saudi minister: Zionists behind 9-11 December 3, 2002 © 2002 WorldNetDaily.com Saudi Arabia's minister of interior suspects that Zionists were behind the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the United States last year. "We put [up] big question marks and ask who committed the events of September 11 and who benefited from them," said Prince Nayif Ibn Abd Al-Aziz, in an interview that originally appeared in the Kuwaiti newspaper Al Siyasa. "Who benefited from events of 9-11? I think [the Zionists] are behind these events.'""

I know, I know. I'm only "hurting my case" by referencing Arab and Muslim opinion on 9/11. These "evil" Muslims are all "terrorists" and "Al-CIA-duh" sympathizers. They're "liars" and "anti-Semites." How do I know that? The Zionist MSM told me so. So, remember, blindly trust whatever the Zionist media tells you, but don't dare believe what muslims say. Muslims are liars, but the Zionist MSM tells the gospel truth.

And it's just "ridiculous" that Zionists would attack America to blame it on Muslims. Oh, yeah...the Lavon Affair and the USS Liberty Attack? Shhhhhhh. You're not supposed to know about those things. Just shut up and forget about that.

4/15/2006 12:07:04 AM

damn, this blew up faster than WTC7

4/15/2006 12:14:42 AM

you don't ever grow tired of just blathering on and on and on and on and on with the same fucking material

do you?

4/15/2006 12:50:32 AM

A large portion of the arab world also thinks that matzah balls are made from the blood of arab children. They pretty much blame every one of their problems on Israel.

4/15/2006 12:30:26 PM

and unleavened bread is made with arab hymens

4/15/2006 12:50:46 PM

i'd seriously like to punch him in the face.

4/15/2006 1:00:01 PM

i just want him to read a book

4/15/2006 1:44:16 PM

we'll compromise and hit him with a book

4/15/2006 2:06:34 PM

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."

--David Rockefeller

4/15/2006 7:51:03 PM

weekly world news?

4/15/2006 7:58:31 PM

It is not doctored if that is what you are implying. I theorize that they placed the charges in a way that would create the face so that people would be thrown off track.

4/15/2006 8:01:35 PM

k

4/15/2006 8:02:32 PM

You have seen the elaborate pyrotechnic displays that make images, it's the same thing just with smoke.

4/15/2006 8:35:37 PM

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" I theorize that they placed the charges in a way that would create the face so that people would be thrown off track."

haha, ok, overthrower is definitely not salisburyboy. salisbury is crazier than a monkey with syphilis, but he's not THAT crazy.

which one of you is the troll?

4/15/2006 8:40:58 PM

Cloud seeding pyrotechnics


You could then place these in an array at varying distances and you would have your face.

4/15/2006 8:45:20 PM

i saw a very similar image from a few years ago
picture of the devil from a car crash. probably the work of the same artist.

4/15/2006 10:12:02 PM

Why would they put pyrotechnics in a car?

4/15/2006 10:30:10 PM

I don't know. Why would they put devil faced pyrotechnics in a skyscraper?

Hell, why would they blow up the World Trade Center?

4/15/2006 10:31:44 PM

because it was a conspiracy
DUHHHHHH

[Edited on April 15, 2006 at 10:35 PM. Reason : i cant spell. at all. i dont even know if my correction is right.]

4/15/2006 10:35:12 PM

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"Hell, why would they blow up the World Trade Center? "

Quote :

""We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order." --David Rockefeller "

4/15/2006 10:38:33 PM

-

[Edited on April 15, 2006 at 11:08 PM. Reason : I realize that this thread is dumb, but if you pic bomb again, I'll suspend you.]

4/15/2006 10:53:09 PM

heeb-tastic

4/15/2006 10:54:40 PM

trying to censor us wont work

4/15/2006 10:55:36 PM

It is not a “conspiracy theory” that the government was involved in 9/11. It’s a conspiracy fact.

4/15/2006 11:07:42 PM

100% proven

4/16/2006 12:53:51 AM

THIS FUCKIN' GUY

4/16/2006 11:59:29 AM

HUNDREDS OF MOSSAD AGENTS IN AMERICA AROUND 9/11 GATHERING INTELLIGENCE AND PLOTTING TO CARRY OUT TERRORIST ATTACKS


Previously in this thread, I covered the story of the Mossad Agents arrested on 9/11 after seen filming the WTC attack and celebrating. I also touched on the FOXNews story on Israeli Spying in America, which discovered that up to 200 Israeli spies were detained in the United States around 9/11, many in connection to the 9/11 attacks or other suspected terrorist actions. Here are some of the stories on these Israeli spies:


Mossad Agents Posing as "Movers" Arrested in Washington State in Truck with Explosive Traces
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,52681,00.html

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"Police Seize Rental Truck With TNT Traces Monday, May 13, 2002 By Carl Cameron FOXNews [...] Shortly after midnight on May 7, federal officials say local police pulled the vehicle over for speeding. Documents read to Fox News indicate that the driver and passenger told local police they were delivering furniture from California but that authorities doubted the story because of the early morning hour. A bomb-sniffing dog first detected explosives on one of the men and inside the truck. High-tech equipment was used later to confirm the presence of TNT and RDX plastic explosive. Documents read to Fox News indicate that both driver and passenger were Israeli nationals."

Remeber that the Mossad agents arrested in NYC on 9/11 claimed to be "movers" as well, and were tied to a supposed company called "Urban Moving Systems."



Police Detain Suspicious Men With Israeli Passports, Box-Cutters, and Oil Pipeline and Nuclear Power Plant Plans
http://web.archive.org/web/20011102131416/http://www.miami.com/herald/special/news/terrorism/digdocs/088964.htm

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"Nuclear plants tighten security: FBI seeking 6 men seen in Midwest October 31, 2001 BY MARTIN MERZER, CURTIS MORGAN AND LENNY SAVINO The Miami Herald [...] In addition to the photographs and other suspicious material, they carried ``box cutters and other equipment,'' the official said. They appeared to be from the Middle East and held Israeli passports. They were let go after the Immigration and Naturalization Service determined that the passports were valid and that the men had entered the United States legally, the official said."

Oh, so the passports were valid. These "Middle Eastern" men were actually ISRAELIS. Interesting.


For more articles related to Israeli/Mossad agents in America in connection to terrorism and 9/11, go to these archives:

HUNDREDS OF MOSSAD AGENTS CAUGHT RUNNING WILD IN AMERICA
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hundreds.html

STORIES REGARDING ISRAELIS SPIES IN CONNECTION TO THE 9/11 ATTACKS THE AMERICAN MEDIA HOPES YOU FORGET ABOUT
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/forget.html

Israel and 9/11: Index of What Really Happened
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/israel_9-11_index.html

4/16/2006 1:42:20 PM

wouldnt mossad agents be members of the edomite race and not the zionists? since being pro israel does not make you a zionist and being jewish makes you an edomite?
meaning your "proof" shows that the edomites were behind the attack and not the zionists?


are you honestly using a site called "whatreallyhappened" to 'prove' your case?

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"THIS FUCKIN' GUY"

4/16/2006 4:05:09 PM

duh


all edomites are zionists
but
not all zionists are edomites

DURRRRR

4/16/2006 4:11:00 PM

How does God feel about people that are only part jewish? Does God hate people who are only semi-edomite?

4/16/2006 5:15:27 PM

I HAVE A FEELING

THAT GOD HATES

THIS FUCKIN' GUY

4/16/2006 6:52:45 PM

has anybody not figured out who overthrower is?

we've seen your posts on PIC, give it up

4/16/2006 7:10:27 PM