doesnt do too much good when you can only put 6 points up tho

11/26/2006 2:45:03 PM

Looks like a 4th straight L for Vick and the Falcons. Can't win games with a one dimensional offense.

11/26/2006 2:54:21 PM

vick = coach killer

11/26/2006 2:54:46 PM

9-23
84yds
3.7YPA

VICK IS A GOLDEN GOD!

one of these days he might have more INT than completions if he has a bad day. (this isnt a bad day, this is just actual vick)

[Edited on November 26, 2006 at 3:52 PM. Reason : ]

11/26/2006 3:51:01 PM

stats are for losers

11/26/2006 4:09:59 PM

well his stats this season dont lie, hes average at best

11/26/2006 4:12:26 PM

L's are for losers

11/26/2006 4:14:29 PM

but if his WR's didn't drop the ball he would have had over 50% completions seriously thou, white fucked him good on that one dropped pass

11/26/2006 4:19:28 PM

Good rushing day...inflated by that big run...but I don't like to use that line of thinking because its gay.

Another horrible passing day. Which again, goes to show that he's AT BEST an AVERAGE QB...but in reality, probably a slightly below average QB. He should just try and run a lot more or maybe try a new position....or maybe somehow get better at throwing the ball.

11/26/2006 4:22:00 PM

^^ every quarterback's stats have those 'factors' in there. sure everyone including him gets srewed over by that sometimes, but thats not the reason for his continuously disappointing performances

11/26/2006 4:23:44 PM

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"Ladanian Tomlinson could be put in at QB and probably have equal or better numbers than vick's passing numbers. and have good rushing numbers too obviously"

i'm not even halfway joking

[Edited on November 26, 2006 at 4:24 PM. Reason : fdsa]

11/26/2006 4:24:25 PM

never disagreed

11/26/2006 4:25:02 PM

do you have smileys disabled or do you not understand the "roll-eyes" is sarcasm?

11/26/2006 4:26:03 PM

ya i'm just reiterating

11/26/2006 4:27:00 PM

you did manage to leave out the fact that he had 166 rushing yards .... wow

either way


L's are for losers

11/26/2006 4:28:58 PM

^which did what for them?


^^^ not everyone uses them for sarcasm, a lot people use them in disagreement

11/26/2006 4:39:13 PM

it's impressive either way. dont be Blind Hate

11/26/2006 4:39:57 PM

Why are people still impressed by him getting a lot of running yards? When he's as ineffective at passing the ball as he was today - something made worse by his left arm being possessed by Randy Johnson - it means nothing at all.

11/26/2006 6:31:16 PM

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11/26/2006 6:57:22 PM

Mike Vick will never be a successful NFL QB. The falcons would have at least 2 or 3 more wins if they were starting Schaub.

Good call on flipping off the fans too, that'll cost him a few dozen GR.

11/26/2006 7:36:43 PM

5 dropped passes beh, no excuse still though

11/26/2006 7:45:37 PM

^ that's only 1/3 of the incompletions - explain the other 10

oh wait, they were all throw-aways to avoid the sack, Vick never threw a bad pass this entire game.

11/26/2006 7:49:21 PM

He was 9 of 24, that's not all on the receivers. These are the same receivers who caught 3 TDs just a few weeks ago. Most of Vick's throws either go sailing 5 yards off the mark or make it there on 3 bounces. Maybe he should look in the mirror before calling out his teammates. He should feel fucking guilty when he picks up his 1 million dollar paycheck for this week.

11/26/2006 7:50:08 PM

Running for 160+ yards in the NFL is still awesome, any way you slice it.

11/26/2006 7:50:21 PM

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"He should feel fucking guilty when he picks up his 1 million dollar paycheck for this week."

Mora Jr. would have you believe otherwise... there's no other player he'd take in the NFL over Vick. Not LDT, not Manning, not Ray Lewis, nobody.

11/26/2006 7:52:16 PM

So is throwing for 500 yards, but ask Drew Brees how much that helped the Saints last week. Teams will let you get your stats if they know they can make your offense predictable and shut you down. That's exactly what happened this week.

How stupid do the Falcons feel trading up to get Vick instead of taking Tomlinson?

11/26/2006 7:53:44 PM

No less stupid then the Giants I imagine.

Interestingly enough if the Chargers thought they would have been able to sign Vick, he would have been a Charger. They only traded down because he was asking more then they could afford against the cap at that time.

[Edited on November 26, 2006 at 7:55 PM. Reason : at least that is what I read last week..]

11/26/2006 7:55:09 PM

Playoffs???

11/26/2006 7:55:17 PM

I call shenanigans. I'm sure cap room had a lot to do with it, but I think they were probably more put off by the idea of taking a risky QB high in the draft after the Ryan Leaf debacle. I think they were going to play with a veteran QB that year anyway. I mean, they just booted Leaf from the team in 2000, no way they were drafting another 1st round QB in 2001.

11/26/2006 8:01:48 PM

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"Running for 160+ yards in the NFL is still awesome"

It's different if you're a mobile QB.

When you hand the ball off to a running back, safeties and DBs automatically turn around and flock to the ball. When you're Vick and you drop back to pass, those safeties and DBs and sometimes LBs are covering their receivers and are usually downfield still covering those receivers when you take off to run. It makes it a little easier when you don't have to face a large portion of the defense until you're 10 yards past the line of scrimmage.

It's an impressive feat...but with his athletice ability, he could easily average 120yds a game if he felt like it. And he probably needs to concentrate more on running since he can't pass for shit.

11/26/2006 8:09:32 PM

^ goodness, someone else gets it... the most blatantly obvious advantage given to running QBs and yet the Vick nuts don't even seem to understand it. I guess its because they're too busy watching Vick to pay attention to the finer nuances like that.

11/26/2006 8:25:15 PM

they need to turn into western harnet and run the old notre dame box.


they could average 300 rushing yards a game easy running the box.

maybe even the wing T triple option !!

I dont think the flex bone would cut it tho

11/26/2006 8:32:36 PM

Oh yeah...Vince Young is a better dual-threat QB than Vick. And he will ultimately have a MUCH BETTER career than Vick.

Just wanted to add that. I'm sure we'll hear from rally when Vick is back in the Pro Bowl though.....

11/26/2006 11:27:55 PM

haha - Vick flipped off the crowd after the game today...it was one of the top stories on the local news

he apparently is a vengeful god

11/26/2006 11:47:35 PM

haha the new testament Vick

11/27/2006 12:36:08 AM

LT has a 152.1 career passer rating...thats pretty close to DOUBLE what Vick's is... maybe LT should start playing QB!

11/27/2006 9:38:41 AM

IF YOURE A QUARTERBACK RUSHING FOR 100-150 YARDS IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THROWING FOR 350

11/27/2006 9:40:41 AM

skip on cold pizza just made the worlds worst arguement against vick


ARE YOU KIDDING ME ? they drop passes because there's no rhythm to the offense ? give me a break.

11/27/2006 10:19:39 AM

they drop passes for 2 reasons... first, because Vick sucks at throwing and when he actually does manage to get the ball to a catchable location for his receivers, it is coming so hard it is a difficult ball to catch, he only knows one speed for his throws, and that is as hard thrown as possible... the second reasons stems from that... his receivers don't get much practice getting catchable balls thrown to them, and when they do get a good one is is out of the rhythmn of the offense and pretty unexpected. I would wager that you could place the best receivers in the NFL on that team and their numbers would go down drastically... not just the obvious lower number of yards and catches, but a higher percentage of dropped balls as well

11/27/2006 10:33:08 AM

^I'm not a Vick fan, but that second argument is pretty fucking dumb.

The first one I'll give some credit too...he does rifle the ball on some rather simple <10-yard passes. But that might only happen once or twice a game. His receivers probably drop more passes than any other team's receivers in the league...but its not enough for him to have the shitty passing stats he has.

11/27/2006 11:03:53 AM

claiming that Vick is a "Golden God" and totally ignoring all statistics and blaming all of his mistakes on his teammates is pretty fucking dumb

11/27/2006 11:21:28 AM

I do agree with that.

11/27/2006 11:31:02 AM

11/27/2006 1:30:44 PM

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"claiming that Vick is a "Golden God" and totally ignoring all statistics and blaming all of his mistakes on his teammates is pretty fucking dumb"

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see what i did there

11/27/2006 3:44:12 PM

This Matt Schaub love affair is hilarious. He didn't win games when he played the past two years.

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" Here are Scouts Inc's. top backups in the NFL. 1. Damon Huard, Kansas City Chiefs He has basically lived the life of a veteran journeyman. This season has been the most extensive playing time of his career. He was 5-3 as the starter for an injured Trent Green. He is smart and knows how to manage the game. He's completed 60.6 percent of his passes with 11 TDs and only one interception this season. 2. Brian Griese, Chicago Bears He is a backup with a ton of starting experience, which is very important if your No. 1 guy goes down. If he were to come into the game and have to pull out a win, the Bears would have a ton of confidence in him to do a solid job. 3. Charlie Batch, Pittsburgh Steelers He is a guy who started early in his career in Detroit before settling in as Pittsburgh's backup. Batch has been solid for Pittsburgh when called upon to save the day. He is smart, manages the game well, and the offense does not miss a beat when he comes to the rescue. 4. David Garrard, Jacksonville Jaguars The numbers aren't always pretty, but he gets the job done. The best thing you can say about Garrard is that he is a winner. The guy has a ton of confidence and his team believes in him. He makes it tough on opponents to prepare for him because he can beat you with his arm or his feet. 5. Seneca Wallace, Seattle Seahawks He is 2-2 as the starter this season, which is not bad. When your No. 1 QB goes down, you are hoping your backup can win about 50 percent of the time. Wallace has done a good job this season of keeping Seattle alive and holding down the fort until starter Matt Hasselbeck is ready to return. 6. Matt Schaub, Atlanta Falcons He is somewhat of an unknown. He played some last season when starter Michael Vick was out and put up very good numbers. GMs around the NFL will tell you that he has the tools to start in this league. Teams could come a calling again this off-season, but no one's sure how he'll fare when he becomes a full-time starter. 7. Billy Volek San Diego Chargers All of his quality starts came in Tennessee prior to being traded to San Diego this season. Volek doesn't have a great winning percentage, but he was not on a lot of quality teams in Tennessee when called on to play. In general, his numbers have been solid. He has a lot of confidence and leadership abilities, which make him a quality backup. 8. Kyle Boller, Baltimore Ravens This is his first season as the backup. He came off the bench this season vs. Carolina and played very well in a losing effort. Boller is still young and has a ton of starting experience. Even though he is a backup right now, there could be a team willing to give him another look as the starter in the near future. 9. Sage Rosenfels, Houston Texans He has had to come off the bench for an injured David Carr three times this season. Rosenfels has some starting experience, but is best suited as a backup. He has been solid this season, completing nearly 70 percent of his passes and throwing three TDs to only one INT. 10. Gus Frerotte, St. Louis Rams He is a veteran QB who has not had to play this season. He is a guy with a ton of starting experience throughout his long career. Frerotte has always been a bit streaky, and when he is hot, he can absolutely pick a defense to pieces. His smarts and experience are what make him a solid backup. "

There's your boy. Sandwiched right between studs like Charlie Batch and Kyle Boller. Gee, the Falcons would be so much better off with him!!!


Another great game for Vick but his defense was too busy giving up hail marys and receivers too busy dropping passes for him to win the game for them.

He almost broke the NFL record for rushing yards by a QB... simply amazing the numbers this guy is putting up this year on such a bad team.

Wish id posted the ESPN article before they took it down tonight where Simms and someone lauded Vick for the game he played sunday.

11/28/2006 1:48:46 AM

He played what, two games?

Retool the Atlanta offense so it isn't so Vickified and I'll GUARANTEE you that Schaub has more success with the same guys than Vick has.


Screw the individual game rushing record by a QB, it's already been debunked and proven to be bullshit. He couldn't throw on a Saints defense that made Ben Roethlisberger look like Dan Marino both before and after he stunk up the joint week in and week out.

11/28/2006 1:55:36 AM

yeah, you gotta admit he looked pretty damn good out there though. 127 yards rushing in the first half i mean wow.... he's just tough to stop.

The only thing you gotta worry about is if he'll stay healthy and focused long enough to keep putting up these performances long enough to etch his place in the Hall of Fame. His elite athleticism carries him, so he can't afford to lose too many steps. Also, they've gotta get a better team around him because they're just wasting away his prime years...

11/28/2006 1:59:30 AM

Hall of Fame?


My mouth and throat hurt too much to laugh as heartily as I want to.

11/28/2006 2:03:20 AM

haha i know its a bit of a stretch to think about the HoF so early. Anything could happen.

Hell, he could get hit by a bus tomorrow and that would end the conversation.


But Im just looking ahead to the future. Hypothetically lets say he adapts to the position with age like say Steve Young did.... you know maybe he loses a step or two and becomes a little less effective as a runner, but uses his wisdom and experience to make up for it... Rich Gannon and Randall Cunningham both experienced late success as an NFL QB who started out as a runner.

Gannon was barely serviceable in the first half of his career and Cunningham wasnt quite as amazing as Vick was and he died for a 5 year period before re-emerging in Minnesota.

So its really tough to compare Vick to those guys because none of them started out dominating the league right off the bat. If he keeps going at his current rate for another decade it would be impossible to keep him out of the HoF unless he never got to play on any good teams and wallowed around on perennial losers like archie manning

11/28/2006 2:13:44 AM

mike vick and hall of fame should never be used in the same sentence

ever.

11/28/2006 2:15:10 AM