indeed, and because of that it was fairly impressive to put 3 past him in one period last night, particularly the third being down 0-3

losing in OT because of a stupid ass penalty was hard to swallow though

walker has been very impressive, but last night he cleared a puck into the stands twice

on that issue, i still think a delay of game penalty is too much. it should be treated just like icing the puck

12/9/2006 10:57:27 AM

Here's the problem with that: putting the puck over the glass is much easier and less dangerous than icing the puck.

When you make a clearing attempt (and I'll use a defenseman in this example), there's plenty of chance for the opposition to intercept the clear, particular at the points, and send in a shot through traffic with only one d-man back at the house. A clear over the glass, on the other hand, provides the opposition no chance to retrieve the puck or make a play to waive the icing (as someone like Brodeur might do, to try to catch the offending team in a change). Therefore, the minor penalty for clearing over the glass suits the difference in ill-gotten relief for the offending team in respect to icing the puck.

It's been a goaltender penalty for ages, and I don't see what's so different about the offender being a regular skater. The reason it's been a goaltender penalty is that the league felt that any time a goalie cleared the puck over the glass, it's much more likely to be intentional, but the only two penalties of that nature I can remember (once with both Olie and Beezer) were clearly unintentional. No one's going to take a penalty on purpose unless it's going to prevent a clear scoring chance, and these certainly don't do that, so I think the argument that you're calling penalties on unintentional plays that just went a bit awry is bunk.

12/9/2006 11:08:10 AM

Quote :

"It's worth pointing out that Roberto Luongo has been the best goalie in the league for three seasons now."

What???

12/9/2006 11:27:19 AM

What's not to understand in that sentence?

The fact that we came back and got a point from that game after being down 3-0 against Luongo is remarkable, because he's been the best goalie in the league for years and continues to be the best goalie in the league.

12/9/2006 11:31:29 AM

He has not been the best goalie in the league for years.

12/9/2006 11:49:35 AM

He's the best combination of a blocking and desperation goalie in the league. He makes the most saves that he should AND the most saves he shouldn't. He doesn't have the best numbers, obviously, but he's always been on horrible teams. People want to talk about Brodeur and Kipper, but they both play on teams that are built from the goal line out (even the recently less-stalwart NJ teams).

[Edited on December 9, 2006 at 11:55 AM. Reason : 7]

12/9/2006 11:54:57 AM

If he's so good why hasn't any "good" team picked him up?

12/9/2006 12:09:52 PM

One would have thought that the blockbuster trade Vancouver made to get him this summer WAS a "good" team picking him up, but Vancouver hasn't been able to buy a goal, and the only reason they are anywhere even remotely close to a playoff spot is Luongo.

Not to mention, this isn't baseball where a handful of elite teams grab up all of the elite players. If a team like Detroit had $6 million under the salary cap to spare plus a superstar player to give up in a trade, then maybe Luongo would be there.

12/9/2006 12:18:28 PM

The other thing is, most of the elite teams in the league already have excellent goalies. Unlike baseball, where you can never have too many superstar pitchers, there's not room for two bonafide #1 goalies on a hockey team. That's why, near the deadline, you'll very likely see one each of Toskala/Nabokov and Giguere/Bryzgalov (as well as Biron) moved for scoring or defensive support. Would the Thrashers like to have Luongo? Sure. But they're not going to give up a ton of cap room and Marian Hossa just to get him when they already have Kari Lehtonen.

12/9/2006 12:35:24 PM

stillman is back baby

[Edited on December 11, 2006 at 9:32 PM. Reason : brind'amore isn't though ]

12/11/2006 9:30:56 PM

I just turned it on, why hasn't the game started?

12/11/2006 9:34:39 PM

theres always a little bit of pre-game, but usually not this much, there was still ~13 minutes + anthems left before gametime when it went to commerical

[Edited on December 11, 2006 at 9:38 PM. Reason : guess it was taped]

12/11/2006 9:37:07 PM

fire grahme

12/11/2006 9:40:29 PM

Why is he in tonight?

12/11/2006 9:41:42 PM

fucking avs scored already!?!

12/11/2006 9:42:05 PM

time change for ward or something i guess, but damn he had 2 full days

12/11/2006 9:44:09 PM

We usually own Theodore

[Edited on December 11, 2006 at 10:01 PM. Reason : nvm their backups in]

12/11/2006 9:44:55 PM

wow we've gotten robbed on every good shot this whole road trip

12/11/2006 9:51:55 PM

caps/pitt shootout on vs right now

12/11/2006 9:59:25 PM

damn Malkin Crosby Ovechkin this shits loaded

12/11/2006 10:02:31 PM

pretty nice shot, sweet Washington lost

[Edited on December 11, 2006 at 10:04 PM. Reason : Aha, Washington was up 4-0 25 minutes into the game]

12/11/2006 10:03:11 PM

something is wrong if we can't score 1 goal off of 4 power plays

12/11/2006 10:15:18 PM

lots of good scoring chances though

12/11/2006 10:17:15 PM

wtf

[Edited on December 11, 2006 at 10:34 PM. Reason : that had to hurt]

[Edited on December 11, 2006 at 10:34 PM. Reason : lol right after the down a man comment]

thank GOD

[Edited on December 11, 2006 at 10:37 PM. Reason : ]


HAHAHAHAHA

[Edited on December 11, 2006 at 10:45 PM. Reason : ]

12/11/2006 10:33:54 PM

ahahahahaha Belanger caught on the glass

12/11/2006 10:46:31 PM

holy god gg grahme

12/11/2006 10:53:07 PM

RE-HIRE GRAHAME

[Edited on December 11, 2006 at 10:57 PM. Reason : amazing.]

12/11/2006 10:53:17 PM

12/11/2006 11:46:11 PM

this road trip is turning into a national lampoon movie

except there's no trip to wally world at the end

12/11/2006 11:56:51 PM

jesus christ. at least it's over.

let it be over.

poor guys

12/12/2006 12:10:19 AM

DEFENSE.

DEFENSE!

My kingdom for some defense.

12/12/2006 1:18:06 AM

wow when i woke up this morning i expected something a little closer

12/12/2006 3:51:27 PM

It was closer.

Until the defensemen decided to take a nap for the last ten minutes of the third.

12/12/2006 4:28:11 PM

Ooooh, I just found a fun stat.

Roberto Luongo, at .919, has the second-highest career save percentage among active goaltenders, trailing only Dominik Hasek.

[Edited on December 13, 2006 at 2:03 AM. Reason : 5]

12/13/2006 2:02:59 AM

bttt go canes

12/15/2006 4:49:18 PM

The following players are game time decisions or worse:

Cole
Ladd
Brind'Amour
Wallin
Belanger
Tanabe
Kaberle

Cole, Kaberle, and Ladd are definitely out.

Keith Aucoin has been recalled.

12/15/2006 4:53:14 PM

lol, im goin to the game tonight too


this should be ... fun

12/15/2006 4:56:01 PM

wtf happened to cole?

12/15/2006 4:58:03 PM

Busted something in his arm/shoulder yesterday.

12/15/2006 4:59:15 PM

Quote :

"3 years to the day, Paul Maurice was fired from the Carolina Hurricanes. In a scenario you simply can’t make up, Maurice makes his first coaching appearance in the RBC Center on the anniversary."

12/15/2006 5:29:40 PM

Also making an appearance tonight, complete with helmet:

KERRY FRASER!!

12/15/2006 5:39:06 PM

I think we'll bounce back tonight.

12/15/2006 5:46:05 PM

Not with 16 skaters we won't.

12/15/2006 5:47:07 PM

What time is the game. Espn is showing something different from carolinahurricanes.com

12/15/2006 6:13:02 PM

7:30 so it can be on CBC.

12/15/2006 6:18:41 PM

Tix say 7. What gives?

12/15/2006 6:22:09 PM

BLOW LEAFS BLOW

12/15/2006 6:48:58 PM

no Roddy tonight

12/15/2006 8:00:41 PM

COOOOOOOOOLE! 1-0

"3 years to the day, Paul Maurice was fired from the Carolina Hurricanes. In a scenario you simply can’t make up, Maurice makes his first coaching appearance in the RBC Center on the anniversary"

The season he got fired, I got his autograph at the caniac carnival. I was the last person he saw before they packed up and I wished him good luck.

[Edited on December 15, 2006 at 8:13 PM. Reason : .]

12/15/2006 8:09:11 PM

I think we got hosed on the interference penalty at the end.

12/15/2006 10:13:24 PM