they were going to until you posted that. now they are going to leave it alone.

[Edited on December 15, 2006 at 2:08 PM. Reason : d]

12/15/2006 2:08:25 PM

Seriously though, I like what Lowe did to our basketball court. I think the football endzones should be that way too

12/15/2006 2:09:21 PM

did lowe have anything to do with the bball courts?

12/15/2006 2:10:17 PM

i'm pretty sure he did. I mean Herb was here for 10years and they were the same, then they get changed when Lowe comes

12/15/2006 2:13:39 PM

Yes, Lowe got the admins to switch it back to a more traditional look on the bbal court.


He's also inquired about "State" jerseys, but says there's something with the NCAA that won't allow them to do it (I'm guessing it may infringe on Michigan State copyrights or something?)

[Edited on December 15, 2006 at 2:20 PM. Reason : ]

12/15/2006 2:20:06 PM

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"Yes, Lowe got the admins to switch it back to a more traditional look on the bbal court. "

wasnt the way we had it the traditional look? i dont remember reynolds ever having the lane painted. maybe my memory just sucks.

...nevermind, i found some pictures of the old painted lanes.

[Edited on December 15, 2006 at 2:27 PM. Reason : df]

12/15/2006 2:26:06 PM

Anyone know what coaches O'Brien might keep from state? I'm hoping Cignetti, Portee, and Dixon

12/15/2006 2:59:41 PM

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"Anyone know what coaches O'Brien might keep from state? I'm hoping Cignetti, Portee, and Dixon"

Depends on the BC hire - if it's Whipple a good number of his BC assistants may be moving down here

12/15/2006 3:15:43 PM

DC AND OC huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge disiciosdsng(sp?)

12/15/2006 4:26:48 PM

http://www.southernpigskin.com/message.cfm?boardfunc=displaymessage&messageid=55876&sub=thread

seems like a lot of outsiders thought it was a very good hire.

12/15/2006 5:48:44 PM

I thought it was only keeping portee and cignetti. as per the articles in the N and O

12/15/2006 7:26:29 PM

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"Tom O'Brien's contract with N.C. State will pay him as much as $750,000 a year in incentives, including $300,000 for winning an ACC championship. The new Wolfpack coach will earn a minimum of $1.1 million a year in base compensation under terms of the seven-year contract. Here are the incentives: * $100,000 for reaching the ACC Championship Game. * $200,000 for winning the ACC championship and/or reaching a BCS bowl. * $50,000 for reaching any non-BCS bowl. * $200,000 for being ranked No. 1 to No. 5 in any of the final polls (The Associated Press, USA Today/ESPN, BCS) or ... * $150,000 if the Pack finishes ranked No. 6 through No. 10 or ... * $100,000 if the Pack finishes ranked No. 11 through No. 15 or .... * $50,000 if the Pack finishes No. 16 through No. 20. (O'Brien will be compensated based on the team's highest ranking.) * $50,000 for winning five ACC games in a season and an additional $50,000 for each win after the fifth ACC victory (ACC teams play eight conference games during the season). * $50,000 if the adjusted graduation rate for football players is 55 percent or better. "This is a fair contract considering the market these days," N.C. State athletics director Lee Fowler said Thursday. "It's driven on the high end by performance. If we do really well, [O'Brien] will be paid really well." If the Pack won an ACC title, was among the top five in a final poll, won eight ACC games and had a graduation rate of 55 percent, O'Brien would earn a total of $1.85 million, Fowler said. Former coach Chuck Amato, who was fired Nov. 26, did not have incentives in his contract for winning five or more conference games in a season or for a top-20 finish in the polls, Fowler said. Fowler said O'Brien is negotiating a contract with Adidas that could pay him $50,000 a year. That would bump his annual minimum to $1.15 million. Butch Davis, recently hired as North Carolina's coach, has a seven-year contract that pays an average of about $1.86 million a year in annual salary, expense account, television and Nike funds and supplemental compensation. The supplemental income, which rises from $1 million in Davis' first season to $1.3 in his seventh, will be paid by UNC's Educational Foundation, also called the Rams Club. Fowler said no Wolfpack Club funds will be used to pay O'Brien's annual compensation. All rights reserved. This copyrighted material may not be published, broadcast or redistributed in any manner. "

http://www.newsobserver.com/122/story/521591.html

12/15/2006 11:26:18 PM

Seems like a good contract.

12/16/2006 1:14:26 AM

“We are going to be champions in the classroom, champions in the community and champions on the football field,”


Good Luck TOB!!!

[Edited on December 16, 2006 at 2:11 AM. Reason : .]

12/16/2006 2:10:39 AM

so we're keeping the walk of champions ?

12/16/2006 3:59:05 AM

the trail of tears

12/16/2006 2:25:51 PM

The walk of shame.

12/17/2006 3:46:27 PM

The Walk of Wendy's Napkins

12/17/2006 3:47:05 PM

The Walk of Triple Flagitation

12/17/2006 3:47:18 PM

.. they should probably just do away w/ the walk.

12/17/2006 3:58:52 PM

lame attempt at starting a tradition

12/17/2006 5:04:47 PM

Are we still going to do Boot Camp like spring training? How about the ghey walking with helmets up in the air before the game...I assume since no Chuck, that will also be chucked.



[Edited on December 17, 2006 at 5:10 PM. Reason : w]

12/17/2006 5:08:54 PM

^probably gone since chuck stole that from FSU

[Edited on December 17, 2006 at 5:10 PM. Reason : ]

12/17/2006 5:10:39 PM

Yeah, was pretty stupid anyways.

12/17/2006 5:11:14 PM

I like the way the players walked down from the top though, I thought that was pretty cool. I wish we'd keep that but I'm pretty sure Tom will do away with all of that type of stuff Chuck did and get back to playing football and not worrying with all the gimmicks and stuff.

12/17/2006 5:59:19 PM

yea, chuck was more focused with gettin the team to FEEL like they could beat anyone, rather than actually preparing them to beat anyone.

12/17/2006 6:01:41 PM

^^ now i may have just made this up, but i think that coming out down the stairs is a result of a problem w/ the elevators from the locker room, or something. i like it though, i hope they keep that one.

12/17/2006 6:28:14 PM

i think you made that up .. the elevators ??? ahhahahahah carrying the entire team and not working for weeks? hahahahhaha .. i hope you did make that up, that is soooo funny though

12/17/2006 6:30:29 PM

yea isn't the locker room connected to the tunnel or at least on the same level?

12/17/2006 6:32:07 PM

Only like 10 players could fit in the elevator and it would take forever.

12/17/2006 6:32:29 PM

Now I've got this image in my head of a giant elevator with the entire team and coaching staff on it riding down to field level.

12/17/2006 6:36:40 PM

the best idea would be:

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"state could come through the velvet ropes and we could have big ass bouncer guys shake their heads and say no to the other team coming on the field, make em wait a while"

12/17/2006 7:26:20 PM

^ hahahaha, thats some old rymnNgarfuck shit there... where is the quote about the players coming up from underneath the field WWF style, already in formation, and running a "badass" play to set the tone

12/17/2006 7:30:33 PM

The showed tom o' brien on the jumbo tron in the RBC center at the canes game on friday night, he got a big cheer from the crowd

12/17/2006 7:45:11 PM

^later Butch Davis' name appeared on the jumbotron and people booed.

12/17/2006 7:48:53 PM

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"Only like 10 players could fit in the elevator and it would take forever."

they aren't making it up, the elevators aren't big enough and too slow, thats why they go into the fieldhouse on the other side of the field for halftime

although i would laugh my ass off at a picture of half or more of the team crammed in a big elevator

[Edited on December 17, 2006 at 8:03 PM. Reason : ^^^^ rofl i remember that, i loled forever]

12/17/2006 8:03:14 PM

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"Sir, it's physically impossible for me to touch your ass from here"

12/18/2006 1:29:57 PM

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"later Butch Davis' name appeared on the jumbotron and people booed."

they could have showed a picture of MJ in a tar heel uniform and people would boo

anything to do with unc within raleigh warrants a boo

12/18/2006 3:50:45 PM

Anyone know what the presser today is all about?

nevermind, it's just another meet the press kind of deal.

[Edited on December 19, 2006 at 10:32 AM. Reason : ]

12/19/2006 10:19:49 AM

^^ as it should be

12/19/2006 10:57:42 AM

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"^^ now i may have just made this up, but i think that coming out down the stairs is a result of a problem w/ the elevators from the locker room, or something. i like it though, i hope they keep that one. "

pretty sure you're making that up. There are stairs and an elevator that go from the field level up to the locker room. When they constructed the murphey center they didn't plan for a good way to get the team up to the locker room. The coaches didn't want the team walking up a whole bunch of stairs if they didn't have to so they kept the half time lockers are in the field house. The thing with the players coming down through the crowd is just a tradition they were trying to start to add to the pre-game activities to pump up the crowd.

12/19/2006 11:12:27 AM

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"Why O'Brien Picked Pack, Part Two Posted: Dec. 18 7:46 p.m. Continuing the Tom O'Brien theme from the last post, while dealing with some technical issues (thanks for your patience) associated with our move to the new WRAL.com site: 5. Recruiting Base. We've written many times about the bad demographics involved with trying to build a successful Division I-A football program in North Carolina, but the problem is even worse in the greater New England area that surrounds Boston. On average, the six-state region of Connecticut, Massachusetts, Maine, New York, Rhode Island and Vermont — taken as a whole — doesn't produce as many Division I-A football signees as North Carolina does by itself. Players, parents and coaches often talk about a six-hour driving radius around a college campus, because a very high percentage of football prospects want to stay close enough to home that their family and friends can travel to see them play, and that radius doesn't do Boston College any favors. The school has the Atlantic Ocean to the east, and mostly Maine and Canada to the north. Parts of New Jersey and Pennsylvania, two excellent football states, are within reach for the Eagles, but overall it's not a strong, built-in recruiting base, which is why BC typically has attempted to recruit nationally. A six-hour driving radius around the N.C. State campus includes all of North Carolina (which produces about 60 Division I-A signees per year); all of Virginia (50 per year), including the talent-rich Tidewater area but excluding two key prep schools (yet another significant, nearby talent pipeline) in the Commonwealth; the entire Maryland-D.C. region (40 per year); all of South Carolina (40 per year); and parts of gridiron-crazy Georgia (150 per year), a state that ranks a solid fourth nationally in average I-A signees, behind only California, Texas and Florida. There are more out-of-state poachers in the Mid-Atlantic than there are in the Northeast, but far more quality players are there for the taking. 6. Postseason Respect. One of the biggest complaints about O'Brien among Boston College fans was that he didn't take the Eagles to any big bowl games, which is sort of like Billy Joel blaming Christie Brinkley whenever the pair failed to win the Most Beautiful Couple award. News flash: The identity of your coach has almost nothing to do with your bowl slot. First, you have to win games, which O'Brien certainly did at BC, with records of 9-4, 8-5, 9-3, 9-3 and 9-3 over the past five seasons. Then, you need to convince bowl officials that you'll (a) bring a lot of your school's fans to the game, (b) inspire others to purchase tickets and sponsorships, and/or (c) provide an entertaining product for television. Factor (a) is the most important of these latter three, by far. To put it bluntly, the Eagles' mediocre bowl invitations — Insight, Aloha, Music City, Motor City, San Francisco, Continental Tire, MPC Computers and Meineke Car Care — under O'Brien had far more to do with the BC fan base than they did with his teams' on-field performances. At N.C. State, if O'Brien goes 9-3, he won't be going to Boise, and he knows it. 7. Circus/Sharks Factor. NFL coaching legend Bill Walsh used to tell his disciples never to stay in the same place for more than 10 years. Why? Because relationships grow stale. Because, when the coach remains the same, most fans eventually will begin to criticize the same exact accomplishments they celebrated in the early years. That's what happened to O'Brien at Boston College from 1997-2006. Some college coaches call this the "circus factor." Why does the circus move from town to town, rather than staying in one place? Because when you keep moving, you can be a novelty week after week, year after year, and it will take much longer for people to grow tired of your act. Put another way: Like some sharks, if you stop moving for too long, you'll probably end up dead. 8. Timing. At 58 years old, in a profession where few college coaches work into their 70s, O'Brien said he was looking for one more challenge. He looked seriously at the Georgia Tech job (Chan Gailey) after the 2000 season, and at Washington (Ty Willingham) after the 2004 season, and he inquired about the North Carolina vacancy (Butch Davis) in November. All three schools had O'Brien on their short lists but ultimately went in other directions. When the N.C. State opportunity came along, O'Brien had the additional advantage of an empty nest, and thus none of the complications associated with pulling children out of school or moving an extended family. His son Daniel and daughter Bridget both graduated from Boston College in 2005. "If I was going to ever make a move, it was going to have to be in the next couple of years," O'Brien said. "This is it. It's N.C. State or bust for me." 9. Retirement. Anyone who has ever been to Florida knows that a huge number of Americans gravitate toward the South as they get closer to retirement age. In the case of O'Brien, he and his family have enjoyed a beach house in Charleston, S.C., for many years. That's a short, pleasant drive from Raleigh, N.C., and by most accounts a wonderful place to retire. See the "human factor" in the previous post. 10. Weather. The average temperature in Boston is below 50 degrees for half the year and sub-freezing for about three months of the year. The average annual snowfall in nearby Worcester, Mass., is 67.7 inches. In contrast, the average temperature in Raleigh is over 70 degrees for one-third of the year and over 60 for about seven months of the year. The average annual snowfall in Raleigh is about seven inches. O'Brien certainly appreciates the climate differential, especially after spending 15 years at Virginia as an assistant under former UVa coach George Welsh. O'Brien's wife, Jennifer, originally is from San Diego, so she understands, as well. There are great beach houses near Boston, too, but it's tough to get the boat away from the dock when everything is frozen. "The opportunity to get back down to the South," O'Brien said, "was just too great an opportunity for us to pass up." "

http://www.wral.com/sports/blogpost/1111130/

12/19/2006 12:52:30 PM

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"The average annual snowfall in Raleigh is about seven inches."

Wow. I would have guessed closer to 3 considering there have been several multiple year stretches where we either got nothing at all or just a trace.

[Edited on December 19, 2006 at 1:03 PM. Reason : -]

12/19/2006 1:02:49 PM

I'd have guessed <2.

12/19/2006 3:03:11 PM

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". Postseason Respect. One of the biggest complaints about O'Brien among Boston College fans was that he didn't take the Eagles to any big bowl games, which is sort of like Billy Joel blaming Christie Brinkley whenever the pair failed to win the Most Beautiful Couple award."

Ha ha awesome line.

12/19/2006 3:42:51 PM

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"pretty sure you're making that up. There are stairs and an elevator that go from the field level up to the locker room. When they constructed the murphey center they didn't plan for a good way to get the team up to the locker room."

so the elevators take too long b/c they didn't plan for it... so there's a problem with using the elevators, so i didn't make it up.

12/19/2006 8:53:36 PM

yeah there was problem with the design, but you made it sound like they started going down through the fans because there was a new problem with getting down through the stairs. They didn't used to go through the fans.

12/19/2006 9:48:57 PM

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"N.C. State football coach Tom O'Brien was raised in Cincinnati and spent 10 years at Boston College. Any wonder that it may take some time for him to get acclimatized to living in the South again (he was at Virginia for 15 years)? Like many transplants to the area, he jumped in his car recently and tried to get a grip on this 40/440, outer loop/inner beltline thing. Needless to say, that took a while. "Didn't get lost," he said. "I took a map." O'Brien prefers non-sweetened tea. He likes Dunkin' Donuts rather than Krispy Kreme. He'll opt for a fish-and-chips lunch instead of a burger. So what about barbeque? Go on those Wolfpack Club spring outings and there will be plenty of barbeque in front of him. "Oh, I love barbeque," he said."

12/20/2006 1:52:41 PM

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" "Oh, I love barbeque," he said.""

he probably wasnt talking about real barbeque

12/20/2006 1:57:02 PM

I don't give a fuck where he's from if he can win football games.

12/20/2006 2:14:00 PM