Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Not making the playoffs will help us down the road
We keep our draft pick, which will probably be 13
Mock drafts have players like Tyreke Evans, Demar Derozan, Stephen Curry, James Johnson, Earl Clark and Eric Maynor going around that part of the draft
Anyone one of those guys could help the team
Next year we're a 5 or 6 seed, and the pick we lose is somewhere closer to 20
Yeah, missing the playoffs hurts the franchise financially and from a marketability perspective
But it will give us a key piece next year for a very cheap contract
plus tickets will be easier to scalp 4/8/2009 10:06:35 AM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Bobcats won last night against the sixers.
Felton with a career high 32 ... I think he also hit a three late to seal it. Must be feeding off the tarheel mojo. 4/8/2009 10:17:14 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
4/8/2009 5:52:33 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
I feel a lump, mang 4/8/2009 5:56:53 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
^^Those might be the most understated-looking jerseys in the league. Dull green and black.
Am I the only one who think they look kind of awesome? 4/8/2009 9:38:39 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
yeah they're pretty dope
they don't fit the normal color scheme obviously but i like em 4/8/2009 9:49:12 PM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
Those look fantastic. Those should have been the jerseys, that should have been the color scheme, and it should have been the Charlotte Flight. 4/8/2009 9:49:58 PM |
j_sun All American 9198 Posts user info edit post |
this is their best alternate so far. please get rid of nascar night and rock these jerseys instead. 4/8/2009 9:57:25 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Those should have been the jerseys, that should have been the color scheme, and it should have been the Charlotte Flight." |
Woulda, coulda, shoulda. I agree with you on all points though ...4/8/2009 11:19:38 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
That's either a lion or a really badass-looking bobcat tattooed on Wallace's arm. Since I've never encountered a badass-looking bobcat, i'm going to assume it's a lion. 4/8/2009 11:21:26 PM |
j_sun All American 9198 Posts user info edit post |
if by lion you mean tiger 4/8/2009 11:23:31 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
looks like a tiger to me 4/8/2009 11:24:03 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
female lion 4/8/2009 11:28:51 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Nah that's definitely a tiger
You can tell by the mutton chops
[Edited on April 8, 2009 at 11:32 PM. Reason : better] 4/8/2009 11:31:18 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Well, i guess it's safe to say it's not a bobcat. 4/8/2009 11:33:17 PM |
j_sun All American 9198 Posts user info edit post |
liger, sweet 4/8/2009 11:52:11 PM |
joerrad All American 3075 Posts user info edit post |
i heard that the bobcats are getting new jerseys next year. they have not been selling jerseys on the website for about a week now. 4/9/2009 12:13:40 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
When I was at a game a few weeks back they had a deal to get an authentic jersey valued at 180 for 40 bucks, so they're definitely trying to clear stock
still a ripoff 4/9/2009 12:18:26 AM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Hopefully they'll change the name while they're at it. 4/9/2009 12:53:02 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
4/14/2009 11:40:16 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Another year where we do just good enough to probably not get a good pick.
I just can't help but think if we had gotten Roy instead of Morrison where we would be. 4/14/2009 11:45:09 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
at least they have a pick 4/14/2009 11:47:16 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
^^It's sickening to think about. The bobcats were just a few picks away from being the best team in the NBA.
-If Orlando takes Okafor instead of Dwight Howard in 2004, which they almost did. -If they make the trade for Chris Paul in 2005, which they almost did (or if they keep the pick, take Felton at 5, then took Danny Granger at 12). -If they draft Roy instead of Morrison in 2006, despite the fact Roy blew off his Bobcat workout.
That would leave them with a team of: PG: Chris Paul SG: Brandon Roy SF: Gerald Wallace PF: Who the fuck even cares. C: Dwight Howard.
4/15/2009 12:01:30 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
The thing is, if we had Howard and Paul, we wouldn't be in the lottery to get Roy...hell, if we had Howard we might not be in position to get Paul...but yeah, we've made some bad draft moves 4/15/2009 12:08:13 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Okafor was better than Howard that first year (before Howard zoomed ahead permanently)
so we would have still had a high pick in the 05 draft even with Howard 4/15/2009 12:18:20 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
We tried to go with the "draft players who had won championships in college" theory...Okafor, Felton, May...even Bernard Robsinson led Michigan to an NIT title
But who is the last NBA player to win an NBA title that had also won a college title? Rip Hamilton? Did Allen win at UConn? Maybe the fact that there are plenty of good college players who amount to shit in the NBA should cause you to reevaluate your drafting strategy 4/15/2009 12:22:50 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
allen was in the NBA before 1999
im tryin to think of the oldest active NBA player for ^those conditions...
[Edited on April 15, 2009 at 12:44 AM. Reason : adfasd] 4/15/2009 12:33:54 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
I know Rip Hamilton won with UConn and with the Pistons, but I think its more the exception than the rule 4/15/2009 12:47:09 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
Antoine Walker lol
1996 with Kentucky and he was on the Miami Heat NBA Champion team 4/15/2009 12:50:05 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
i remember a boston playoff game a few years back when they had pierce and walker and they won the game and the camera got too close and you could hear walker telling pierce "yeah my nigga, lets get that title my nigga" 4/15/2009 12:56:23 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But who is the last NBA player to win an NBA title that had also won a college title?" |
This is actually pretty odd to think about. Your Mateen Cleaves and Khalid Al-Amins do great leading teams to titles and can't do dick in the pros.4/15/2009 1:47:10 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_players_have_won_NCAA_and_NBA_championships 4/15/2009 7:13:37 AM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
shit i was thinking laettner won a title in miami but then i realized they were about to win the title before Wade got hurt and knocked them out. They won the next year but laettner wasnt on that team.
That team can be remembered historically for having Shaq, Zo, and Laettner the #1, #2, #3 picks in that draft i guess.
[Edited on April 23, 2009 at 6:54 PM. Reason : a] 4/23/2009 6:47:57 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.nbadraft.net/
Quote : | "12 Charlotte Wayne Ellington Jr." |
hey look, a mock draft has us picking another tar heel
[Edited on May 20, 2009 at 10:56 AM. Reason : .]5/20/2009 10:55:52 AM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
if any of the heels aside from lawson go in the lottery i'll be pretty shocked, and even he could slip to the 20's 5/20/2009 11:08:07 AM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
I hate the heels as much as anyone, but they could do much worse than Ellington. They really need a 2G with some athleticism who can shoot. Ellington is a little on the small side, but I think he's going to be a good player in the NBA. Better than Henderson IMO, because he can consistently hit open shots.
Now if we draft Hansbrough, I'm going to kick someone's ass. 5/20/2009 11:12:19 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
I've been saying Gerald Henderson since March, and I'll be saying it all the way up to draft night 5/20/2009 11:19:38 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/237/story/738988.html
Quote : | "Bob Johnson seeks buyer for Bobcats
Amid losses, Bob Johnson faces a challenge in finding a buyer in this economy.
By Rick Bonnell rbonnell@charlotteobserver.com Posted: Thursday, May. 21, 2009 Slideshow
Charlotte Bobcats majority owner Bob Johnson has stepped up efforts to sell the team, recently hiring a sports investment banker to look for a buyer.
Sal Galatioto, president of New York-based Galatioto Sports Partners, confirmed to the Observer Thursday that he's representing Johnson in a potential sale. Galatioto declined to comment further on the situation.
Johnson told Observer columnist Scott Fowler last month that he'd like to sell controlling interest to minority owner Michael Jordan, the former NBA star who oversees the team's basketball operations. Since then, according to multiple NBA sources, Johnson has begun looking for other potential buyers.
Jordan wasn't available for comment Thursday. An NBA spokesman confirmed that the league is aware Johnson is seeking investors and that Galatioto is assisting him.
Johnson said last month that he owns about 70 percent of the team. The Observer reported in April that minority partners have been told to expect roughly $35 million in cash losses the next two seasons. Roughly a year ago, while addressing the Observer's editorial board, Johnson implored the Charlotte business community to provide more financial support for his team.
Team spokesman Michael Thompson e-mailed the Observer Thursday to say Johnson was not available for comment. That same e-mail stated that Johnson's company “does not comment on rumors.”
A source close to Johnson, speaking on condition of anonymity, said, “It's true, he's committed to selling the team,” adding, “He's lost passion” for owning it.
The challenge will be affixing a value on the team that Johnson and a buyer would accept. A source with long ties to the NBA, who has inquired about the Bobcats' availability, said Johnson wants between $325 million and $350 million.
That would approximate the original $300 million expansion fee Johnson paid the NBA, starting in 2003, plus his initial $30 million investment in working capital.
However, it's questionable whether a buyer would accept that valuation in the current economy. Forbes magazine, in its annual valuation of NBA teams, estimated in December that the Bobcats are worth $284 million, or 29th among 30 teams (topping only the Milwaukee Bucks).
Forbes also estimated that more than half that $284 million value is debt. Presumably, a new majority owner would take on that debt as part of the purchase price.
The Bobcats laid off about 35 non-basketball employees in September, shortly before the start of training camp, after a consultant compared the team's work force to NBA staffs in comparably-sized markets.
With the economy in recession, Johnson faces the prospect of covering tens of millions in future losses. A group of about 20 minority owners has generally declined to help cover those losses. Johnson promised, in an interview with the Observer last month, that he would never move the team out of Charlotte.
Galatioto made it clear in a November interview with The Wall Street Journal that this would be a challenging time to get a good price for any major-league team.
“Part of the problem is how difficult and expensive it is to get financing,” Galatioto told the Journal. “If you are a seller, is this the time to bring your team to the market? When the cost of credit is up, the price of the team goes down. It's like a house and a mortgage. The more you are paying on the mortgage, the less you can pay for the house.”
Asked in that same Journal interview what he'd advise a potential team-seller, Galatioto replied: “I wouldn't advise a seller to go into the market right now and sell.”
Galatioto's company has been advising investment banker Tom Ricketts in his efforts to buy the Chicago Cubs from Tribune Co. Former NBA deputy commissioner Russ Granik joined Galatioto Sports Partners in 2006 with the title of vice chair.
It's unlikely a change in ownership would result in the team leaving Charlotte. The team's arena-lease with the city calls for severe financial penalties should the team move out of Time Warner Cable Arena. Also the NBA would have to approve a move, and few cities without teams have an NBA-quality arena.
The appeal to buying the Bobcats is taking control of Time Warner Cable Arena, a modern, amenity-filled NBA facility, and the fact that the team could be on the verge of its first playoff appearance.
However, Charlotte has had a tepid response to the Bobcats. This past season their average home attendance was 14,526, 26th among 30 NBA teams.
The Bobcats were essentially flat in home attendance compared with last season and down nearly 2,000 per game from 2005-06, their first season in the uptown arena." |
5/22/2009 12:56:38 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Can we trade the Bobcats for a MLB team?
Maybe we can get an owner who wants to win now. 5/22/2009 1:13:35 AM |
tracer All American 13876 Posts user info edit post |
i hope bob's gone. hard to imagine a more inept owner. 5/22/2009 2:05:06 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
It's going to be hard to convince people to invest in a team that utilizes a bonehead like Michael Jordan as general manager.
Maybe they should IPO some stock in the team. 5/23/2009 11:22:04 AM |
j_sun All American 9198 Posts user info edit post |
this team has a good upside though, they were just a few games out of the playoffs and we have a great coach. also the team was getting a lot of support towards the end of the season. 5/23/2009 11:29:59 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
So how long is Gortat's contract with the magic? 5/24/2009 9:07:48 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
I was wondering about that too. He is potentially a top ten center and he can't even get minutes in Orlando. They don't really need Felton though with Nelson coming back so I don't know how we'd swing him in a deal... maybe they'd take our #12 and Radmanovic since they love surrounding Howard with shooters 5/25/2009 12:56:36 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
what not to do as an NBA owner: name your team based on your first name
let's just hope they come up with a new name if bob johnson leaves. bobcats = terrible 5/25/2009 6:39:17 PM |
not dnl Suspended 13193 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i really hate the name 5/25/2009 6:42:05 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
what about the Charlotte Sting?
it could be a play off the hornets! 5/26/2009 4:46:43 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
my biggest gripe is the team name! ~~~~~~ 5/26/2009 5:01:14 PM |
not dnl Suspended 13193 Posts user info edit post |
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=capress-nba_bobcats_ownership-224032327&prov=capress&type=lgns
jordan? has fail written all over it
[Edited on May 30, 2009 at 4:38 PM. Reason : .] 5/30/2009 4:37:49 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "For sale: Charlotte Bobcats owner Bob Johnson seeking buyer THE ASSOCIATED PRESS May 22, 8:45 pm EDT" |
and several posts above
nga do u read5/30/2009 4:39:52 PM |