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"am i the only one who expected to lose by a lot more but feels like shit right now"

This. I went in mentally prepared for a blowout. IT seems every time I set myself up to handle defeat, they find a way to completely fuck me up by some way I couldn't even conceive.

9/19/2013 10:54:25 PM

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"There is a huge gap between Rivers/Wilson/Glennon and Stone/Davis/Beck/Evans...and Pete Thomas is right in the middle of that. Can't see how you can hate on him after this game."

He either looks to run too quick or we need way better receivers that can get open.

9/19/2013 10:54:41 PM

he's not good, he's just in a much better offense than our past shitty qbs

he's jay davis level

9/19/2013 10:55:57 PM

Bottomline is most of us didn't expect a win, but it sucks for that Underwood TD to be called out of bounds...I'd be fine with a loss if that were called a TD and they outplayed us after that...but either way, we lost, so hopefully we'll step our game up next week

9/19/2013 10:56:01 PM

Thomas isn't going to lose us games, problem is he isn't going to win us any either and we need more than a game manager.

He is college Alex Smith.

9/19/2013 10:57:09 PM

I spend 2 weeks dropping troll bait in this thread, and Clemson shows up and "Clemsons"

9/19/2013 11:01:59 PM

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"and no, that wasnt me as the "O""

Oh look, another guy without pics in his album!!!!!111

9/19/2013 11:03:06 PM

He's better than Jay Davis. Game managers in college are okay, we just need a better running back (or to give Shadrach more carries) and better playmaking WRs (I think we've got some young ones).

That missed call sucked, but I'm really okay with this result...ESPECIALLY after the Richmond game.

9/19/2013 11:04:14 PM

well we can keep pretending he isnt mediocre but eventually you need to throw a damn TD pass

in the red zone you cant get away with throwing a bunch of smoke passes or slow developing crossing routes which is why our offense sputters the closer we get to the end zone

9/19/2013 11:09:04 PM

he's started 2 games...underperformed in the Richmond game, arguably overperformed in the Clemson game

jury is still out on the QB, imo

9/19/2013 11:12:43 PM

RAAAAAWR

9/19/2013 11:13:36 PM

[Edited on September 19, 2013 at 11:25 PM. Reason : If you look closely, the jersey is not light blue, the player is out of bounds ]

9/19/2013 11:24:41 PM

shit...looks out there...still wouldve rather the college replay rules have called it a TD and been reviewed, and seen that angle, and called it out...but oh well

9/19/2013 11:28:07 PM

But in HD looks in

9/19/2013 11:29:03 PM

9/19/2013 11:37:18 PM

did he get ejected?

9/19/2013 11:43:09 PM

when was that? that must have been when i was getting a drink, i missed that.

9/19/2013 11:43:31 PM

he hit that Ryu uppercut. flawless

9/19/2013 11:45:55 PM

towards the end of the game. he was ejected and will likely be suspended a game.

9/19/2013 11:55:04 PM

not quite next-level-good enough to outplay bad game-changing calls.

i can live with that i guess.

feel like that twenty-whatever play drive was a #MORALVICTORYgoodthinggoingforward



i was getting really frustrated that ESPN would never show replays of all the false starts. some of them seemed extremely iffy. and that bizarre delay of game call where the ref like... ran in and stopped the play before the play clock ran out and our players shrugged incredulously...........



[not blaming the loss on the refs. our running backs besides thornton were pretty miserable. dayes and creecy completely ineffective. and like someone else said Thomas seems to tuck and run way too early but who knows what the deal is there.]

9/20/2013 12:38:35 AM

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" ran in and stopped the play before the play clock ran out and our players shrugged incredulously..........."

yah that seem really fucking weird....


the on screen game clock was still at 5 or so when the ref ran in to bother the center.

9/20/2013 12:39:53 AM

yeah, wtf was the deal with the delay of game where the ref was setting the ball

9/20/2013 12:40:08 AM

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"i was getting really frustrated that ESPN would never show replays of all the false starts. some of them seemed extremely iffy. and that bizarre delay of game call where the ref like... ran in and stopped the play before the play clock ran out and our players shrugged incredulously..........."

Again, I need not be a conspiracy theorist to say we got jobbed. There's BCS money on the line here for the ACC. Clemson winning tonight was important for the ACC. Important enough to potentially cost us millions.

I was at the State GTech basketball game earlier this year when the refs favored us. Again, refs' bias according to what is best for the ACC( like NCAA tournmanent seeds?)

[Edited on September 20, 2013 at 12:44 AM. Reason : .]

9/20/2013 12:43:44 AM

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"i was getting really frustrated that ESPN would never show replays of all the false starts. some of them seemed extremely iffy. and that bizarre delay of game call where the ref like... ran in and stopped the play before the play clock ran out and our players shrugged incredulously..........."

THIS

9/20/2013 7:03:20 AM

^^Yes.

9/20/2013 7:14:12 AM

Was at the game last night with a pretty good view of the field from the lower level. WTF was up with the false starts? 75% of the time I didn't see any movement, but I didn't have the benefit of TV to be sure.

9/20/2013 7:28:16 AM

None of us had the benefit of a replay, so we are in the same boat


overall I'm pretty excited today for the rest of the season. Our defense looked like a team that could stand up to tough competition and pur offense occasionally looked like it knew what it was doing. We looked a lot better than I thought we would at this point, so I'm looking forward to the next game.

9/20/2013 8:16:17 AM

http://deadspin.com/acc-officials-decide-n-c-state-doesnt-deserve-td-they-1352975562

9/20/2013 8:18:38 AM

I remember when I used to get excited after close games like this.

9/20/2013 8:19:31 AM

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9/20/2013 8:20:13 AM

Definitely pumped about the defense. Was expecting them to be tired and get blown out in the 2nd half...and although they gave up some points, they still looked solid. Maybe it's because they go up against our "hurry up" (it wasn't that fast) offense in practice??

Either way...d-line is solid, linebackers were good enough, and secondary isn't horrible. Hopefully they can keep it up.

9/20/2013 8:23:44 AM

Anyone see what was happening after the game that caused 4 cops to come flying down trinity back toward the stadium almost running over fans leaving the game?

9/20/2013 8:34:03 AM

From reddit:

http://i0.wp.com/usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/ncstate-fans-nipple-rubbing.gif

[Edited on September 20, 2013 at 8:36 AM. Reason : ]

9/20/2013 8:36:07 AM

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"Was at the game last night with a pretty good view of the field from the lower level. WTF was up with the false starts? 75% of the time I didn't see any movement, but I didn't have the benefit of TV to be sure."

same here. i almost want to go back and watch it on tv to see if i can figure out what they were calling half the time, but that's pointless. there was lots of booing at the refs, especially after the miscalled out of bounds play.

[Edited on September 20, 2013 at 9:22 AM. Reason : ]

9/20/2013 9:18:20 AM

I know it stood because the ref called him out live and I presume it was the line judge, how far from the play is he?

9/20/2013 9:20:28 AM

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"Again, I need not be a conspiracy theorist to say we got jobbed. There's BCS money on the line here for the ACC. Clemson winning tonight was important for the ACC. Important enough to potentially cost us millions. I was at the State GTech basketball game earlier this year when the refs favored us. Again, refs' bias according to what is best for the ACC( like NCAA tournmanent seeds?) "

Which while I'm not about to say the ACC fixed the game or conspired with the refs to give them favorable calls, conferences controlling referees needs to stop and there should instead be one central refereeing body nationally that makes the assignments.

9/20/2013 9:26:18 AM

^what I remember was the line judge is right in front of him, maybe 10 yards downfield on that .gif, in really good position IMO. The Line Judge was right next to Underwood as he ran into the endzone and he signaled a touchdown. I'm actually not sure who called the play back. That's how I remember the replays last night, but I also had some wonky dreams last night about this game.


edit:

I think it was actually the Field Judge/Side judge that I saw on the replays and signaled the touchdown. The line judge should have been upfield of Underwood, correct? If that's the case then I don't remember seeing the LJ during replays.

[Edited on September 20, 2013 at 9:36 AM. Reason : derpin up the ref positions]

9/20/2013 9:27:59 AM

The judge trailing underwood made the call. He was 10 yards back and his view was partially blocked by the defender. The other officials down field and with clearer lines of sight signaled TD.

ESPN article by one of the blog gals said the coordinator of officials got up to go look at the play and never came back.

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"Joe Giglio ?@jwgiglio 38m Richard Misner (L) is behind the play by 15 yards with Quintin Payton and Darius Robinson obstructing his view"

[Edited on September 20, 2013 at 10:50 AM. Reason : s]

9/20/2013 10:48:26 AM

[Edited on September 20, 2013 at 10:52 AM. Reason : ]

9/20/2013 10:51:06 AM

When I saw the in-stadium replays of the 83 yd touchdown, I thought he was out...



looks out there, too.

Though I haven't been able to match that angle to any other.

9/20/2013 10:52:18 AM

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"the coordinator of officials got up to go look at the play and never came back."

LOL, figures

And as far as the false starts, I didn't see a lot of them, either. And of course, ESPN never showed a replay of any of them.

9/20/2013 10:53:14 AM

is the one in the bottom right ^^^ the same instant?
if so, he's in.

[Edited on September 20, 2013 at 10:54 AM. Reason : ^'s]

9/20/2013 10:54:24 AM

ostensibly

9/20/2013 10:55:59 AM

^^bottom left?

9/20/2013 11:11:22 AM

To those watching on TV, did you see Clemson call a timeout before Boyd through that interception early in the game? IIRC, that would have been a TD too if it wasn't called back....

9/20/2013 11:21:01 AM

yeah, you could clearly hear the whistle before the snap on TV.

9/20/2013 11:25:24 AM

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"He's better than Jay Davis. Game managers in college are okay, we just need a better running back (or to give Shadrach more carries) and better playmaking WRs (I think we've got some young ones)."

i'm gonna go ahead and disagree with you here.

pete thomas has played basically 3 whole games. he has exactly ZERO touchdown passes. that's not being a game manager, that's being not very good.

9/20/2013 11:25:33 AM

[Edited on September 20, 2013 at 11:25 AM. Reason : ]

9/20/2013 11:25:36 AM

in bronco's post the bottom far left and bottom 3rd from left are the same as the shitty sd pic from bumfuck nowhere south carolina

far left is impossible to tell if he's in or not but 3rd from left he's in

9/20/2013 11:25:48 AM

T.A. was in

9/20/2013 11:25:57 AM