Novicane All American 15416 Posts user info edit post |
Fire matt canada 10/3/2015 5:02:40 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "mistakes killed us - 70 yd td run, fumble on the 5, and fumble on a good drive" |
they also had 2, maybe 3 fumbles that they recovered. a lot of that is just luck, but if we could've come up with just 1 turnover that'd been huge.
very questionable play calling, IMO. brissett did not play particularly well. the defense looked unprepared in the 1st half, but did improve in the 2nd half. i think they just got worn out by the end....the D missed a couple of tackles that would've ended UL drives and given us much better field position.
hate the 3rd and 1 call on the last drive...a quick snap and sneak would've been good. and the 4th and 1 immediately after that...not crazy about a sweep when you only need 1 yard.
UL did not look all that good to me...their d was pretty solid, and that'll definitely win them some games. but i thought we just played poorly.10/3/2015 5:34:12 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
10/3/2015 6:15:05 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
I think you people are insane, and that game could/should have been infinitely worse.
one of, if not the, worst games by our quarterback in 2 years .... 2 fumbles... no offensive identity whatsoever .... and we lost by 7 points.
I know ya'll wanna burn down the schoo.... but that seems a bit much. 10/3/2015 6:31:14 PM |
xienze All American 7341 Posts user info edit post |
^ Well that's what makes it so frustrating. If we had just played "meh" we would've easily won this game. 10/3/2015 7:34:25 PM |
willembahh All American 2378 Posts user info edit post |
just got back from that wet shit show
we punted from our own 33.
.... 10/3/2015 8:02:15 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
I believe you mean their 33, and yes, we shit all over the pisspoor coaching the whole game 10/3/2015 8:10:02 PM |
willembahh All American 2378 Posts user info edit post |
you are correct. had it backwards 10/3/2015 8:13:31 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
I've been making comments to my friends that we have looked very vanilla on offense through the first 4 games this year.
But they would remind me that it's because we were playing weaker competition and the playbook would open up once conference games began. Well today was the same shit.
Sure Jacoby was putting up amazing completion numbers, but that's not extremely difficult when every pass travels 5 yards down the field. He's like the college equivalent of Alex Smith of the Chiefs.
I don't know if I'm more pissed at the fact we lost, or at the fact that we literally don't have anything positive to take away from the game 10/3/2015 8:24:10 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
how would ya'll be melting down if we'd got taken to the fucking woodshed like Florida is currently doing to Ole Miss. 10/3/2015 8:33:40 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
^^ well the weather should get better won't it
[Edited on October 3, 2015 at 8:37 PM. Reason : ] 10/3/2015 8:36:57 PM |
fenway All American 3135 Posts user info edit post |
It was a winnable game where we turned it over twice, they didn’t turn it over once (despite Louisville giving State some chances), we didn’t run the ball with any sort of authority, out of nowhere we tried to become a passing team with intermittent rain showers passing through, and the coaches went soft. Punting inside your own 35 yard line means should mean you get an automatic loss once that decision is made. Especially with a freshman punter.
The officials in Louisville’s final sustained drive in the 1st half absolutely gifted them a field goal, but in the end our offense decided to make sure that fact ended up irrelevant. Our offense looked really, really plain throughout the game, and Jacoby did not look very good. Ugly, ugly game. 10/3/2015 8:44:52 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Offensively, we've got to get Samuels the ball more. Where were the jet sweeps?
Jacoby has got to complete a few throws down the field, or teams will continue to stack the box. He also looked a little shaky in the pocket today. He missed some throws, but that's going to happen on wet, windy days. His composure in the pocket was what worries me. I know UL has a good DL, but he's got to be a little more decisive back there.
Defensively, our LBs were terrible all day covering the slot WRs. They burned us repeatedly on slants and posts over the middle. Our secondary wasn't bad today, but our LBs did nothing and took some bad angles on their big plays. 10/3/2015 9:12:26 PM |
Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
notre dame making me feel a little better... very similar dumpster fire... except that clemson is way better than louisville 10/3/2015 9:18:19 PM |
Elwood All American 4084 Posts user info edit post |
WE ARE NC STATE! 10/3/2015 9:33:15 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
I justb hope we beat wake at their place this year. Baby steps 10/3/2015 9:54:13 PM |
xienze All American 7341 Posts user info edit post |
Seemed like we got burned by that option play about a million times too. 10/3/2015 10:27:07 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
I'll say that Doeren was in a no win position when he punted from the 33
- Kick a FG? ahahahahaha - Go for it? On 4th and 10 with a QB who can't complete a pass over 3 yards? In a game where things already aren't going your way? - Punt from the 33? Where a good results was 25 yard punt?
He was screwed regardless of options 10/3/2015 10:57:35 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Just finished watching recording of the game. Great game by our defense. I felt like I was watching a high school team when watching our offense. Our O-line was pretty pathetic and Brissett was awful. I have given Brissett time but unfortunately it seems he is nothing more than a bus driver. And he missed Hines deep a couple times, similar to how he missed Underwood every game last year. 10/3/2015 11:12:16 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
wait, people are complaining about our crowd today? 10/3/2015 11:42:01 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
ssclark's glass-half-full act is a bit tired
it's totally ok to call a shit effort a shit effort
that game was a shit effort in all 3 phases 10/4/2015 1:48:22 AM |
Buie New Recruit 39 Posts user info edit post |
At least, with our cupcake schedule, we will still find a way to make a bowl. 10/4/2015 2:14:59 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
y'all NCSU fb fans are a dedicated bunch. The last time State was nationally relevant was during my freshman year in 2003. I mean, it's cool that y'all care or whatever, but why bother? At least State basketball teams make the NCAA tourney and have two sweet 16s in the last 5 years. I just can't see myself ever getting excited or upset about a State football game anymore. They've sucked, uninterrupted, for over a decade. 10/4/2015 3:02:33 AM |
Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
so you're posting in a football game thread because?
[Edited on October 4, 2015 at 4:14 AM. Reason : ] 10/4/2015 4:13:41 AM |
tailsock Suspended 1616 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe state shoulda played someone other than east Wyoming tech junior college the past 4 weeks. 10/4/2015 7:37:43 AM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
Troll on, troll 10/4/2015 9:13:34 AM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Well we have notre dame next year, that enough 10/4/2015 9:24:41 AM |
RattlerRyan All American 8660 Posts user info edit post |
our kicking game is about as bad as carolina's last year, that really changes the dynamic too 10/4/2015 10:22:21 AM |
fenway All American 3135 Posts user info edit post |
The kicking game sucks, and Jacoby definitely looked shaky yesterday, but I'm most frustrated with how our coaches seemed unable to change the game plan. With Shad gone and Dayes not having a great game (60+ yds and a fumble) it seemed like they put the game on Jacoby's shoulders so that he had to pass the ball for us to win. He's never been a great passer and it was clear that wasn't working out yesterday with how he missed a good number of throws in the 10+ yards range. It seemed like our drives commonly consisted of a long throw on 1st down, a stuffed run on 2nd down, and then a 3rd and long where Jacoby had to try and throw the ball again.
I would've liked to see Samuels get some kind of carry between the tackles, and maybe some designed QB runs for Jacoby. It also doesn't make sense to me why Grinnage wasn't targeted more. Jacoby struggles with throws down the field, yet we've seemed unwilling to utilize our best TE so far this season (aside from those first couple of games where Grinnage was hurt). 10/4/2015 11:12:07 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
louisville's defensive strategy was to load the box to shut down the run and play tight on short routes. if brissett hit any quick pass the wr would have been one move away from taking it to the house. he just made our guys dive or comeback for almost every catch. then there was the long one he hit on target in the 1st. 10/4/2015 1:59:05 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "we played a good, clean game with solid fundamentals; Louisville was just the better team" |
-TreeTwista1010/4/2015 2:01:32 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Brissett point shaving definitely crossed my mind. He was unusually bad.
[Edited on October 4, 2015 at 2:30 PM. Reason : They'll play better next week though. This team isn't as bad as they showed in general.] 10/4/2015 2:29:37 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Belk bowl is still within reach. 10/4/2015 3:38:58 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ssclark's glass-half-full act is a bit tired
it's totally ok to call a shit effort a shit effort
that game was a shit effort in all 3 phases
" |
hollllllllld on. my glass half full act only applies to the irrational "IM DONE WITH THE SEASON, BURN DOWN THE VILLAGE" clowns. We played like ass-ticles ... AND we still could/should have won.
All I'm saying is it's fucking asinine anytime we lose a game it's decided the world is over. especially this game.
Like I said ... there'd have been fires on hillsborough street if we got fucking molly-whopped like texas, whoever the fuck baylor played, or especially Ole Miss did.
we barely lost a game where we played like donkey cock. It could be worse. frustrating, absolutely, however
]10/4/2015 3:40:39 PM |
Sayer now with sarcasm 9841 Posts user info edit post |
After sitting through the game in person yesterday, and watching the replay again today, here's how I feel:
1) Whether the righteous want to admit it or not, losing our pre-season all-ACC running back in the middle of the week hurt our ability to move the ball downfield. This isn't a slight against Dayes, he's a hell of a runner, but having that second option was a big part of our offensive threat. Losing that option hurt us more than a lot of people want to admit. But you know, moral high ground and all.
2) The officiating in the 1st half was absolutely awful, and it destroyed our momentum every time we started building it. Did we make some mistakes, absolutely. But there were some things I saw flagged twice that I'm still scratching my head over.
3) Matt Canada needs help. I don't know what kinda help, maybe it's help out the door, but he needs a clue. Heaven forbid we throw a screen pass, Louisville was set up to bite on it all game. Or you know, maybe get the ball to Samuels more than 5 times. The offensive play calling was embarrassing.
4) Considering what they were asked to do, our defense did a pretty good job. We may not have gotten to their QB as much as we wanted, but we were certainly pushing them back plenty, and did a good job on most plays stopping the run. Our defense kept us in the game in the second half, our inability to win it is on the offense.
5) Hines is seriously good, and is going to be absolutely nasty in the long run for us. Very excited about him.
6) Brissett did not look 100% at all. He was consistently throwing behind receivers, or just inaccurate in general. He held on to the ball too long and his pocket presence wasn't as good as usual. Idk what was going on with him, but I really hope it gets fixed before VT because with ST gone we'll need to lean on him even more for the rest of the season.
7) The sky is not falling. Losing to Louisville isn't the end of our season, just the end of the ridiculous fantasy some had of us winning the division or the ACC. And even though some have convinced themselves otherwise, Louisville is not a bad football team. Just like we're not a bad football team. We went out and played a bad game. Most teams do that once or twice a season, yes even good teams (paging Notre Dame).
8) We have plenty of winnable games left. It's not unreasonable to think we can definitely win in Blacksburg and in Winston-Salem. We can beat Syracuse. We'll probably win one of FSU, Clemson, and BC because that's how we roll. At this point who knows about UNC; I don't think anyone knows what kinda football team they've got going on over there right now. An 8-9 win season before a bowl game is still perfectly obtainable, and that's progress over last season. 10/4/2015 4:56:44 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " just the end of the ridiculous fantasy some had of us winning the division or the ACC. " |
Its not even that. I'm not saying we will, because I think we wil lose 3 or 4 more games, but if we were good enough to win the division before yesterday, that game didn't put us out of the chase. We'd still have to go through fsu and clemson to get it.10/4/2015 6:21:49 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
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skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
CAn we hire chip Kelly after he is fired? 10/6/2015 11:57:24 AM |
themayor All American 1473 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ I agree with almost all of that. Nice post 10/6/2015 12:37:51 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Mark Richt is a more realistic target. 10/7/2015 12:59:49 PM |