packfootball All American 1717 Posts user info edit post |
^^ That's a lazy response.
Here's the thing, I'm not claiming this is some sort of grand conspiracy, I'm just saying something is sketch about the details we know. A crazy loner kills his neighbors because their dogs shit in his yard. A 60 year old fairly wealthy man with a significant other, no religious or political affiliation, no criminal history and no history of mental illness doesn't commit terrorism on this scale. I'm not saying this is some kind of grand conspiracy involving govt agencies, I'm just saying there's gotta be something we don't know. It could be as simple as he became affiliated with a political organization in his time overseas, or he was a paranoid schizophrenic, but we've got absolutely nothing. I'm not claiming the police know something we don't, it could very well be everybody doesn't know which seems to be the case. 8/4/2018 11:18:58 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148585 Posts user info edit post |
8/4/2018 1:26:18 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6602 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "no criminal history and no history of mental illness doesn't commit terrorism on this scale." |
Here’s what I don’t get - why don’t they just chalk it up to lone wolf terrorism? Does a motive have to be more complicated than he wanted to hurt people and create terror? We all joke about white people never being blamed for terrorism, but damn, calling him a lone wolf is better than just shrugging your shoulders and claiming you couldn’t figure it out.8/4/2018 3:15:16 PM |
packfootball All American 1717 Posts user info edit post |
^Isn't that what is inferred? 8/4/2018 3:34:43 PM |
packfootball All American 1717 Posts user info edit post |
^^ You should watch this docu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb2iFikOwYU I think it's not so much that nobody wants to classify a white person's crime as terrorism as much as it is police not going down that path in their investigation because statistics don't support it. Not saying the statistics are used effectively by law enforcement, but the statistics themselves discussed in the docu are pretty hard to dispute. 8/4/2018 4:01:32 PM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "why don’t they just chalk it up to lone wolf terrorism? Does a motive" |
Terrorism requires a motive.8/4/2018 7:15:45 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Anatomy of a Conspiracy Theory Credible sources say the Las Vegas shooting was a one-man job. But a small band of former government insiders is propagating a wild alternative theory—with dangerous consequences. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/11/16/conspiracy-theory-las-vegas-shooting-dangerous-222576 11/16/2018 11:10:56 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28069 Posts user info edit post |
Ok so crazy people think it's a conspiracy. Cool. 11/16/2018 11:35:18 AM |
Bullet All American 28476 Posts user info edit post |
"Crazy People" including former CIA agent, a former Trump NCS member, and a current member of congress... not just your run-of-the-mill crazy conspiracists on the internet.
[Edited on November 16, 2018 at 12:02 PM. Reason : ] 11/16/2018 12:02:37 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28069 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, they're still fucking nut jobs.
And they have pretty much ruined an innocent guy's life.] 11/16/2018 12:50:47 PM |
Bullet All American 28476 Posts user info edit post |
I agree, i just assumed by your casual dismissal of it that you thought it wasn't a big deal., when it kinda is. 11/16/2018 1:06:31 PM |
beatsunc All American 10754 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know the wackos motive but I suspect if he had a vendetta against the police for a somewhat valid reason we wouldn't hear about it 11/16/2018 1:26:47 PM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
So still nothing eh? This guy was a mastermind who was able to cloak his motive from this nation's law enforcement etc? 3/18/2019 11:24:27 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148585 Posts user info edit post |
Why must he have had some specific political motive 3/18/2019 11:36:13 PM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
Where did I say he must he have had some specific political motive? 3/18/2019 11:57:04 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148585 Posts user info edit post |
You just said he was able to cloak his motive, implying he had one, and before that said "terrorism requires a motive." I don't know what kind of motive you're looking for, but it doesn't sound like you're going to get your question answered. 3/19/2019 12:26:47 AM |
Cabbage All American 2095 Posts user info edit post |
Some people seem to kill for the hell of it; aside from simply wanting to kill, they have no real motive at all. 3/19/2019 1:55:19 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
where was kamala harris at the time? 3/19/2019 9:19:24 AM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You just said he was able to cloak his motive, implying he had one" |
Of course he had a motive. This was a methodical act. He didn't trip and fall into that situation.
Quote : | "before that said "terrorism requires a motive"" |
That's a true statement.
Quote : | "I don't know what kind of motive you're looking for, but it doesn't sound like you're going to get your question answered." |
For sure, I just don't understand how the FBI etc couldn't unearth some sort of motive, or at least share some pieces of they found with us (outside of the obvious public record stuff...employment history etc). I'm not going full eleusis here but I don't understand why they haven't said more.
Quote : | "it doesn't sound like you're going to get your question answered." |
Agreed]3/19/2019 1:20:02 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23045 Posts user info edit post |
I think maybe this was just a general failure for law enforcement all around - from local response all the way up to fed monitoring. They probably just don't want to talk about it, and they realize that it is long past its 24 hour news cycle, so why dredge up something that the general public has long since forgotten.
LOOK! A SQUIRREL! 3/19/2019 2:03:28 PM |
Cabbage All American 2095 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Of course he had a motive. This was a methodical act. He didn't trip and fall into that situation." |
I'm not convinced that method implies motive. Aren't serial killers a counterexample?3/19/2019 4:18:31 PM |
Bullet All American 28476 Posts user info edit post |
Isn't sexual gratification the motive of most serial killers? Like Dahmer, and Bundy, and the Golden State Killer, and Gacy.... 3/19/2019 4:21:29 PM |
Cabbage All American 2095 Posts user info edit post |
^Possibly, I don't know.
Wait: Maybe the Vegas shooter was jerking off while he was shooting.
Right there's your motive, B.
[Edited on March 19, 2019 at 4:39 PM. Reason : ] 3/19/2019 4:39:24 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28069 Posts user info edit post |
Case closed. Lock the thread 3/19/2019 4:44:27 PM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Aren't serial killers a counterexample?" |
A lot of them hated women/target specific groups of people.3/19/2019 5:47:55 PM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
maybe the dude was just nuts? 3/19/2019 6:19:28 PM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
They haven't said that either. 3/19/2019 9:17:46 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28069 Posts user info edit post |
It's clear this guy just hated bro country.
I hate it too, but not quite that much. 3/19/2019 9:21:28 PM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
That's about all we have to go on 3/19/2019 9:26:41 PM |