I think Summers would have gotten a "fair shake"... but he'd probably be beaten-out by the depth that we have, and i imagine tob was honest with him about that, and told him that he was more likely to see the field as a safety or wide receiver. That's just how I think it went down.

2/3/2012 2:17:45 PM

ttt

Quote :

"Speculation: TOB+staff preferred a more mature QB with starting experience (thomas) to a young, unproven alternative with arguably more raw talent (summers)"

Quote :

"Summers wasn't going to get a fair shake that QB here, and he didn't like the honesty. "

Quote :

"^you're also forgetting pete thomas, who committed about the same time summers decomitted. Thomas was a 4* qb coming out of hs, with two years starting experience under his belt a csu (and holds the record for pass completions for a true freshman, over one of the mannings). he'll be redshirting this year, but very well could be our starting qb for two years after that."

right now, its definitely sad to see an athlete like summer leave us to go to UNCcheat. but ya gotta give this staff credit for long term decision making. e.g. - 9 months ago almost all of us thought that letting RW go was bad for long&short term. I think few would argue the long part now after seeing the team gel around MG at the end of the season.



TOB basically confirms this in his post-NSD conference:
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/ncsu/video/10676415/#/vid10676415

2/3/2012 2:26:22 PM

probably the wrong thread, but i didn't see a general recruiting topic thread

pretty sleazy: its being insinutated that Georgia and Florida head coaches attended a top 5* LB's grandfathers church and donated considerably to the collection plate.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/mark-richt-looks-higher-power-help-land-top-182124028.html

2/3/2012 2:54:00 PM

that is most definitely not the first time that exact thing has happened.

2/3/2012 3:17:24 PM

Churches have been used as a front for paying recruits for decades.

2/3/2012 6:12:34 PM

Damn, didnt even think about UNC switching to a spread offense. We always get DESTROYED by spread offenses, and their pro style offense could never score on us.

That's not good. If UNC goes from scoring 10 points a game to 40 points a game I don't see how we'll keep the streak alive.

We've never stopped anyone with a spread offense before... Cincy, USF, Wake, Duke... hell even some D1-AA schools

2/3/2012 6:18:42 PM

Doesn't matter, they aren't our rivals.

2/3/2012 6:26:32 PM

We got beaten by GA Tech who runs a triple option spread. We destroyed Clemson who also runs a spread and we beat VA as well. I'm not concerned about the spread offense AT ALL. It's a popular thing right now in college football but I don't consider it a major threat when most schools that run it end up being no better or worse than teams that don't. Most of the time they can't sustain continued success with it. NC State has had issues with defending a spread option but overall, it isn't our kryptonite by any means.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4327427


ACC
Clemson: Spread
Georgia Tech: Triple-option spread
Virginia: Spread

Big 12
Baylor: Spread passing offense
Iowa State: Spread passing offense
Kansas: Spread passing offense
Missouri: Spread passing offense
Oklahoma State: Spread passing offense
Texas: Spread passing offense
Texas Tech: Air Raid passing offense

Big East
Cincinnati: Spread
South Florida: Spread
West Virginia: Spread option

Big Ten
Illinois: Multiple spread
Indiana: Multiple spread
Michigan: Spread option
Northwestern: Multiple spread
Penn State: Spread HD
Purdue: Shotgun spread

Conference USA
Houston: Spread
Memphis: Spread
SMU: Run and shoot
Southern Miss: Spread
Tulsa: Spread

MAC
Akron: Spread/Multiple
Central Michigan: Spread
Kent State: Spread
Toledo: Spread

Mountain West
BYU: Spread
UNLV: Spread
Utah: Spread
Wyoming: Spread

Pac-10
Arizona: Air Raid passing offense
Oregon: Spread option

SEC
Auburn: Multiple spread
Florida: Spread option
Mississippi State: Spread option
Vanderbilt: Multiple spread

Sun Belt
Arkansas State: Spread option
Louisiana-Lafayette: Spread option
Louisiana-Monroe: Spread option
Middle Tennessee: Spread pass
North Texas: Spread pass
Troy: Spread pass
WKU: Spread option

WAC
Hawaii: Run and shoot
Nevada: Pistol
Utah State: Spread

I bolded the teams that I consider to be operating the spread successfully.

Several of those have not really had sustained success. The percentage of good teams to bad isn't really favoring that the spread is a highly successful offense.





[Edited on February 3, 2012 at 6:42 PM. Reason : .]

2/3/2012 6:37:12 PM

you think penn state's offense is good?

[Edited on February 3, 2012 at 6:50 PM. Reason : i mean it's great at exposing holes in 10 year olds...]

2/3/2012 6:49:31 PM

Last 6 years they've been:

9-4, 7-6, 11-2, 11-2, 9-4, 9-4


that isn't good?

[Edited on February 3, 2012 at 7:07 PM. Reason : .]

2/3/2012 7:05:12 PM

UVA runs a spread?

2/3/2012 7:09:41 PM

according to ESPN

2/3/2012 7:10:15 PM

Keep posting articles that are almost 3 years old.

2/3/2012 7:13:16 PM

which schools have changed?

2/3/2012 7:16:19 PM

A lot of the schools that have switched coaches/offensive coordinators.

For example, Virginia (a team that has switched to a power running pro-style offense you highlighted as successful use of the spread).


In the ACC, UNC and Maryland have switched to versions of the spread (UNC in concept, with the hiring of their new coach) with coaching changes. Wake runs a lot of spread. VT uses it more but probably not 75% of their offense.

UVA runs a pro style offense.

I'm not going through every conference.

2/3/2012 7:24:31 PM

I could have sworn that Virginia ran a modified spread pass on us when we played them. Either way, I didn't see that the article was 3 years old but most of those teams still run the spread or a modified version of that. I didn't include UNC because they didn't run the spread last year. I completely forgot about VT. I thought Wake ran more of a modified I.

http://www.technicianonline.com/sports/acc-teams-specialize-in-different-types-of-offense-1.2641943#.Tyx9JMUS29U



Either way, I still don't consider the spread offense a giant threat to NC State or to defenses in general. Some teams do it really well but most are no better than teams running a Pro-Set. That was my entire point.

Mike Archer is a bigger threat than the spread.

2/3/2012 7:36:33 PM

Josh Sessoms on signing day...that's how you do it...block S pants and all

2/6/2012 3:27:32 PM

TE David Grinnage and WR Xavier Griffin on signing day.

2/8/2012 2:08:31 PM

four frame zoom on the kid in front that's in between them is needed

2/8/2012 2:28:25 PM

why?

2/8/2012 3:59:09 PM

why not? that kid's face looks hilarious w/ the wolf hat on

[Edited on February 8, 2012 at 4:10 PM. Reason : f]

2/8/2012 4:10:10 PM

I dont get the point of those 4 zoom pics.

its not that funny, his face.

2/8/2012 4:33:18 PM

His wolf ears are hanging low. He can tie them in a knot/bow. Let's end it with that.

2/8/2012 4:38:41 PM

UNC got two verbals yesterday (sorry, not State related)

http://www.highschoolot.com/content/story/10705382/

2/9/2012 9:42:03 AM

^ look at this video of fedora going batshit crazy after they commit

the second kid is like...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTLEYAvBBQ8&feature=player_embedded

[Edited on February 9, 2012 at 11:05 AM. Reason : 1]

2/9/2012 11:04:30 AM

[Edited on February 9, 2012 at 11:18 AM. Reason : ]

2/9/2012 11:18:05 AM

wow, it looks like its gonna be easy to hate old mr. hat.

2/9/2012 11:20:29 AM

^ha! Mr. Hat... I hope someone photoshops Fedora into a South Park Mr. Garrison picture.

2/9/2012 11:54:57 AM

pffft. unc won't have any clue how to run a spread. i'm not worried about next year. it's 2 or 3 years down the road where they could have this thing ready to go.

2/9/2012 4:52:49 PM

did those guys commit or did Fedora "talk" them into it? that was creepy. those guys looked uncomfortable too, like, why-is-this-older-man-hugging-the-shit-out-of-me uncomfortable

2/10/2012 3:00:34 AM

the throwback hats are sorta sweet

2/13/2012 3:05:07 PM

i'm pretty sure the top one says Wolfpork

[Edited on February 13, 2012 at 3:47 PM. Reason : .]

2/13/2012 3:46:46 PM

this is a post from February 2008, which basically lists this dude's top 100 high school prospects...entertaining to go back and see which guys he got right, and which guys nobody has heard from since...i recognized maybe 10 of these guys by name

Quote :

"Tom Lemming released his top 100 for 2009. Class of 2009 Top 100 - First Release 1. QB Matt Barkley 6-3, 220, 4.7 Santa Ana-Mater Dei, CA 2. RB Bryce Brown 6-2, 215, 4.4 Wichita-East, KS 3. DB Craig Loston 6-2, 210, 4.35 Houston Ike, TX 4. RB Chris Whaley 6-3, 220, 4.45 Madisonville, TX 5. RB Cierrre Wood 6-0, 189, 4.4 Oxnard-Santa Clara, CA 6. DL Jamarkus McFarland 6-3, 280, 4.9 Lufkin, TX 7. DL Devon Kennard 6-4, 230, 4.6 Phoenix-Desert Vista, AZ 8. QB Tom Savage 6-5, 224, 4.75 Springfield-O'Hara, PA 9. WR Marlon Brown 6-5, 200, 4.55 Memphis-Harding Acad., TN 10. WR Josh Adams 6-4, 200, 4.5 Cambridge Rindge Latin, MA 11. DB DeVonte Holloman 6-3, 210, 4.5 Charlotte Independence, NC 12. DL D.J. Fluker 6-7, 315, 5.1 Biloxi, MS/Foley, AL 13. OL Xavier Nixon 6-6, 270, 4.9 Hope Mills-Britt, NC 14. LB Manti Te'o 6-2, 225, 4.6 Honolulu-Punahou, HI 15. QB Garrett Gilbert 6-3, 190, 4.7 Lake Travis, TX 16. RB Lamar Miller 5-11, 190, 4.4 Miami-Killian, FL 17. DB Stephon Gilmore 6-2, 189, 4.5 Rock Hill-Southpointe, SC 18. WR Rueben Randle 6-3, 195, 4.47 Bastrop, LA 19. QB Russell Shepard 6-2, 195, 4.47 Houston-Cypress Ridge, TX 20. WR Logan Heastie 6-3, 195, 4.5 Chesapeake-G.B., VA 21. RB Eddie Lacy 6-2, 206, 4.4 Geismar-Dutchtown, LA 22. LB Dorian Bell 6-1, 220, 4.6 Monroeville-Gateway, PA 23. DL Chris Davenport 6-4, 300, 5.2 Mansfield, LA 24. DB Cliff Harris 5-11, 170, 4.4 Fresno Edison, CA 25. OL Kevin Graf 6-6, 300, 5.2 Agoura Hills, CA 26. LB Petey Smith 6-1, 240, 4.6 Seffner Armwood, FL 27. WR Devon Flourney 6-1, 180, 4.4 Balboa-Birmingham, CA 28. QB Tyrik Rollison 6-2, 185, 4.6 Sulphur Springs, TX 29. DB Dre Kirkpatrick 6-2, 180, 4.46 Gadsden City, AL 30. DL Justin Chaisson 6-5, 260, 4.7 L.V.-Bishop Gorman, NV 31. OL Mason Walters 6-6, 290, 5.0 Wolfforth Frenship, TX 32. DL Ryne Giddins 6-4, 230, 4.6 Seffner Armwood, FL 33. RB Larry Caper 5-10, 210, 4.4 Battle Creek-Central, MI 34. DL William Campbell 6-5, 315, 5.0 Detroit-Cass Tech, MI 35. DL Craig Drummond 6-4, 250, 4.7 Chicago-Morgan Park, IL 36. DL Jacobbi McDaniel 6-1, 275, 4.8 Madison Co., FL 37. DL Josh Boyd 6-4, 260, 4.7 Philadelphia, MS 38. RB Dexter Pratt 6-1, 214, 4.48 Navasota, TX 39. DB Willie Downs 6-2, 195, 4.5 Tallahassee Godby, FL 40. DL John Simon 6-3, 265, 4.9 Youngstown-Mooney, OH 41. DL Chris Bonds 6-4, 265, 4.7 Columbia-Richland, SC 42. LB Tana Patrick 6-2, 220, 4.6 N. Jackson-Stevenson, AL 43. QB Kevin Newsome 6-2, 207, 4.5 Chesapeake-W. Branch. VA 44. DL Nick Kasa 6-6, 248, 4.7 Broomfield-Legacy, CO 45. QB Morgan Newton 6-5, 205, 4.5 Carmel, IN 46. QB Clayton Moore 6-3, 200, 4.7 Louisville, MS 47. OL Lendell Buckner 6-3, 320, 5.0 Chicago-Leo, IL 48. OL Eric Shrive 6-7, 280, 5.2 West Scranton, PA 49. WR Justin Brown 6-4, 205, 4.5 Wilmington, DE Concord 50. WR Chad Bumphis 5-11, 185, 4.35 Tupelo, MS 51. ATH Mike Ford 5-9, 205, 4.5 Leesville, LA 52. OL John Martinez 6-4, 260, 4.8 Murray-Cottonwood, UT 53. QB Clark Evans 6-5, 220, 4.8 Los Alamitos, CA 54. QB Moses Alipate 6-6, 235, 4.8 Bloomington-Jefferson, MN 55. RB Ronnie Wingo 6-2, 201, 4.4 St. Louis-University, MO 56. DL Brennan Williams 6-6, 260, 5.0 W. Roxbury-Catholic, MA 57. OL Tom Ashcraft 6-4, 280, 5.1 Cedar Hill, TX 58. RB Desmond Scott 5-9, 180, 4.47 Durham-Hillside, NC 59. DL Brandon Jenkins 6-4, 230, 4.7 Tallahassee-Florida, FL 60. QB Nathan Scheelhaase 6-2, 187, 4.5 Kansas City-Rockhurst, MO 61. DL Corey Adams 6-4, 275, 4.8 Scottsdale-Saguaro, AZ 62. QB Allen Bridgeford 6-4, 190, 4.8 Mission Viejo, CA 63. DL J.C. Lanier 6-3, 320, 5.1 Twin City-Emanuel Co., GA 64. RB Montrell Conner 6-2, 210, 4.4 Monroe-Ouachita, LA 65. TE Levine Toilolo 6-7, 230, 4.87 La Mesa-Helix, CA 66. QB Tajh Boyd 6-1, 200, 4.6 Hampton-Phoebus, VA 67. QB Ryan Mossakowski 6-4, 200, 4.8 Frisco Centennial, TX 68. DB Todd Thomas 6-3, 195, 4.5 Beaver Falls, PA 69. QB Donovan Tate 6-2, 195, 4.48 Cartersville, GA 70. WR Marlon Pollard 6-0, 160, 4.3 San Bernardino-Cajon, CA 71. DL Alex Okafor 6-5, 230, 4.6 Pflugerville, TX 72. LB Vontaze Burflict 6-2, 235, 4.6 Corona-Centennial, CA 73. OL Brandon Webb 6-4, 300, 5.1 Owasso, OK 74. DL Sheldon Richardson 6-4, 280, 4.9 St. Louis-Gateway Tech, MO 75. QB Shavodrick Beaver 6-4, 185, 4.5 Wichita Falls-Rider, TX 76. RB Aaron Hayward 6-0, 190, 4.5 C.P.-Penns Grove, NJ 77. RB Lonnie Pryor 5-11, 195, 4.5 Okeechobee, FL 78. QB A.J. McCarron 6-4, 190, 4.8 Mobile-St. Paul's, AL 79. QB Evan Watkins 6-6, 225, 4.8 C.S.-Glenbard North, IL 80. WR Randall Carroll 5-11, 190, 4.3 Los Angeles-Cathedral, CA 81. RB Theo Riddick 5-10, 190, 4.4 Somerville-Immaculata, NJ 82. QB Tate Forcier 6-1, 190, 4.63 Carlsbad, CA 83. QB Zach Mettenberger 6-5, 217, 4.8 Watkinsville-Oconee Co., GA 84. DL Fletcher Cox 6-4, 250, 4.7 Yazoo City, MS 85. RB David Oku 5-9, 180, 4.4 Midwest City-Albert, OK 86. RB Patrick Hall 6-1, 190, 4.5 Ventura-St. Bonaventure, CA 87. QB Eugene Smith 6-4, 180, 4.6 Miramar, FL 88. WR Shaquelle Evans 6-2, 190, 4.5 Inglewood, CA 89. WR Je'Ron Stokes 6-1, 178, 4.4 Philadelphia-Northeast, PA 90. LB Storm Klein 6-3, 225, 4.6 Newark-Licking Valley, OH 91. OL Quinton Washington 6-4, 320, 5.3 St.StephensTimberland, SC 92. QB Jamie Collins 6-3, 210, 4.5 Meadville-Franklin Co., MS 93. LB Darius Moffett 6-3, 225, 4.6 Chicago-Hubbard, IL 94. OL Marcus Hall 6-5, 290, 5.1 Cleveland-Glenville, OH 95. LB Mike Privott 5-11, 225, 4.7 Norfolk-Lake Taylor, VA 96. DB Gabe Lynn 6-1, 190, 4.4 Jenk, OK 97. TE Morrell Presley 6-4, 208, 4.59 Carson, CA 98. OL Leon Hill 6-5, 325, 5.2 Chicago-Leo, IL 99. OL J.K. Jay 6-6, 275, 4.8 Greenville-Christ, SC T-100 DL Deandre Coleman 6-4, 295, 5.0 Seattle Garfield, WA T-100 DL Jamil Merrell 6-4, 215, 4.6 Hodgson, DE T-100 WR Pat Patterson 6-3, 220, 4.6 Macon-Noxubee Co., MS"

2/27/2012 8:33:07 PM

Quote :

"Since graduating from West Brunswick High School in 2010, Alfy Hill has played in five college football games over two seasons, yet he still hopes to enroll at NC State in January 2013. He claims to have verbally committed to the Wolfpack because he wants to move closer to home so relatives and friends can see him play."

http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20120227/ARTICLES/120229710?p=1&tc=pg

2/27/2012 11:42:57 PM

^^ i recognized prob 30-40 there. A lot of those names are in the NFL draft this year also.


He did do a shitty job on the QBs though

2/28/2012 1:20:00 AM

maybe its more like 20 for me, but only about 10 that deserved a top-100 ranking

2/28/2012 1:28:30 AM

^^^nice. here's his hs scout page
http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=4197070

2/28/2012 9:30:50 AM

CAN HE PLAY LB??

2/28/2012 9:36:05 AM

And this is why I find it hilarious that people get paid to cover recruiting.

2/28/2012 9:38:14 AM

good enough for Bama, good enough for me!

2/28/2012 9:47:09 AM

Quote :

"He participated in workouts with the Crimson Tide before the NCAA Clearinghouse declared him academically ineligible because of an online high school core course. He then enrolled at East Carolina as a non-qualifier, but quickly withdrew and headed for Itawamba (Miss.) Junior College, where he left after the spring semester of 2011. He finally landed in California, joining two former West Brunswick teammates, Bradley Bell and Tyquan Ash."

Yeah, if I were a betting man, I wouldn't wager on him ending up here in a years' time. More power to him if he makes it work and can get his act together, but after leaving the SEC, ECU, and a junior college, it seems like qualifying would be a big hurdle.

2/28/2012 9:49:27 AM

Wasn't there another local highly-touted DE/DT that committed to State but went JuCo? What was his name?

2/28/2012 9:57:24 AM

Freshad Hunter

2/28/2012 10:23:59 AM

Ah yes, Fre'Shad. Wonder what he's doing these days.

2/28/2012 11:13:30 AM

i wouldnt say he left the sec ... he didnt qualify
and you know its bad if bama couldnt get him in. im sure UNC could. hope he gets here and it works out for him. he was good.

2/28/2012 11:28:59 AM

Not really recruiting, but supposedly RS Freshman DE Mike Rose & Sophomore DB Rodman Noel will be linebackers. http://twitter.com/#!/PackFootball

2/28/2012 11:32:21 AM

Well if things keep going the way they are, Glennon might be getting a shot at LB this spring.

2/28/2012 12:28:48 PM

Quote :

"Ah yes, Fre'Shad. Wonder what he's doing these days."

Looks like he's at Fayetteville State:
http://files.gmc.cc.ga.us/file_lib/420232012%20Outgoing%20Signees.pdf

2/28/2012 12:40:50 PM

Anyone know if there's any mutual interest with Leesville Road's 2014 WR/DB Braxton Berrios?

Quote :

"After posting a 99.15 SPARQ rating at last year's Charlotte Nike combine, Berrios boosted that mark by 20 points thanks to a combine-best 3.90 20-yard shuttle, a 39.3-inch vertical jump, 37-foot power ball throw and 4.60 40-yard dash. Berrios has yet to receive his first offer but is already hearing from Oregon, Tennessee, Arkansas, South Carolina, Penn State and Ohio State. "

http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/story?storyId=7666219&wjb=

3/14/2012 1:10:52 PM

Oregon, OSU, Penn St, South Carolina, NC State, Arkansas...

One of these is not like the others.

3/14/2012 1:45:30 PM