adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Trump and his supporters, including the worst of the alt right (McInnes, Spencer, etc), are intricately linked with the conservative movement. They're all getting Koch money.
https://www.reddit.com/r/KochWatch/comments/9ig7q3/the_kochs_and_the_altright/ 10/19/2018 3:19:49 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1053729767692926983?s=21
Quote : | "Trump lies that California residents are "rioting" in protest of sanctuary city immigration laws: "They're rioting now. They want to get out of their sanctuary cities."" |
This is pretty nuts. There’s no riots but trump is making up a lie that people are rioting against immigrants. It seems he’s trying to foment anti-immigrant violent protests?10/20/2018 4:51:33 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Not sure why you needed a question mark. 10/20/2018 9:13:21 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Whether they admit it or not, it seems that the majority of the ~40% of people still supporting Trump are okay with the use of violence to keep brown immigrants suppressed.
These people have all along pretended to believe that they only have a problem with "illegal" immigrants, and they claim the reason they hate black lives matter is because it's "divisive", and the Colin Kaepernick is just trying to stir the pot and pull people apart instead of just realizing people really do get along.
What do you even do in a situation like this? Trump has spent the past 2 years ratcheting up the violence tinged rhetoric, what's the end game here?
I used to think the Democrats winning the House would put the brakes on this, but I'm now realizing this isn't going to stop Trump from whipping his supporters into a frenzy of hatred for immigrants and democrats.
Our best case scenario is that most voters are unfazed by Trump's attempts to create more hate, they vote democrats, the democrats manage to keep the government institutions functioning in a sane way until Trump is out of office. 10/20/2018 11:04:29 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
How long until we get the official legal challenge to posse comitatus? 10/22/2018 8:42:05 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/trump-administration-considering-narrowing-definition-gender-n922591
throwing out some red meat for rjrumfel 10/22/2018 10:25:05 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Sadly, it looks like Mexico’s Police and Military are unable to stop the Caravan heading to the Southern Border of the United States. Criminals and unknown Middle Easterners are mixed in. I have alerted Border Patrol and Military that this is a National Emergy. Must change laws!" |
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1054351078328885248
Kinda crazy how openly racist the president is10/22/2018 11:22:02 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Let’s be honest here. The majority of the planet operates like this. We’ve got Buddhists genociding people. The Chinese government putting millions in camps. Fighting throughout the Middle East. A crazy person about to be elected to power in Brazil. That’s just off the top of my head in 15 seconds 10/22/2018 11:31:02 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
It's sad we're not cozying up to Iran instead of Saudi Arabia.
If we're going to pick a country in the region to be friends with Iran is a WAAAYYY better choice. 10/22/2018 11:36:43 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
I’m not really sure who is better bc they’re both oppressive theocracies.
A few of my friends are Persian and almost all of their families fled in the 70’s and don’t go back. 10/22/2018 12:16:52 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Iran's society is much more open than Saudi Arabia. Iran has functioning universities and some semblance of Democracy. Iran even officially recognizes rights of transgendered people who've undergone surgery.
Iran's education system though is probably what endears me to them over Saudi Arabia, Iran has produced a few notable scientists and engineers, the same can't be said for Saudi Arabia
Last but not least is Saudi's brand of theocracy is very different than Iran's. The Saudi culture created the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and Isis.
It's the difference between southern evangelicals and catholics... i'll take catholics any day. 10/22/2018 12:47:21 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
I can't even...
https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1054836502893658112
Quote : | "They had a very bad original concept, it was carried out poorly and the cover up was one of the worst in the history of cover ups." |
(His comment should start around the 2:25 mark.)
[Edited on October 23, 2018 at 5:12 PM. Reason : ]10/23/2018 5:10:37 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
Iran is a thousand times better off than Saudi Arabia.
The Saudi Arabian government is somewhat trying to "Westernize" its people, but they can't even get folks to stop cousin fucking.
I've been holding off on mentioning the incest/inbreeding thing. But it's for real, and in the past decade or so, it's emerged as a genetically significant problem. Really, it's always been a problem, but it's just now that folks are liberated enough to talk about it.
That said, any theocracy is pretty bad, and they are all invariably rife with incest and sexual abuse.
(The only solution is to educate women.)
[Edited on October 23, 2018 at 6:03 PM. Reason : ] 10/23/2018 6:02:30 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Count me in on the Iran-is-better-than-Saudi-Arabia-train
I can see why being ‘friends’ with the UAE is worth our energy, but I have zero clue where any love for Saudi Arabia comes from. Oh wait. From oil loving Republicans who’ve made excuses for SA for a long as I remember. 10/23/2018 6:06:22 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
^^Iran is only a theocracy because we couldn't risk them taking ownership of their own natural resources 10/23/2018 6:23:10 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Iran is interesting to me. I interact with Persian fairly regularly at work and they are a total pain in the ass to negotiate with. They really don’t put up with any shit which is inevitably going to cause issues with the USA.
I could see them being an ally but the egos on both sides are so inflated it’s not happening anytime soon. 10/23/2018 6:26:00 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/24/us/politics/trump-phone-security.html 10/24/2018 7:19:12 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
10/25/2018 10:01:50 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "A very big part of the Anger we see today in our society is caused by the purposely false and inaccurate reporting of the Mainstream Media that I refer to as Fake News. It has gotten so bad and hateful that it is beyond description. Mainstream Media must clean up its act, FAST!" |
He’s basically saying cnn deserved to be bombed.10/25/2018 10:10:35 AM |
nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
#victimblaming 10/25/2018 10:24:55 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
^^ insane 10/25/2018 10:43:27 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Congrats, GOP and Fox News!
President is on the false flag train!!! 10/26/2018 10:21:02 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1055822810940129283?s=21
Quote : | "Twitter has removed many people from my account and, more importantly, they have seemingly done something that makes it much harder to join - they have stifled growth to a point where it is obvious to all. A few weeks ago it was a Rocket Ship, now it is a Blimp! Total Bias?" |
Whining about his twitter follower count today
How is anyone still supporting this guy...10/26/2018 10:23:38 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.wral.com/editorial-congress-needs-to-do-its-duty-rein-in-trump-s-excesses/17946859/ 10/26/2018 1:03:02 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.businessinsider.com/gdp-trump-tariff-trade-war-us-china-2018-10
This is pretty bad sign for trade: “GDP rose at an annualized rate of 3.5% in the third quarter. But the contribution of net exports of goods and services - the measure of how much trade added or subtracted to GDP growth - was a dismal -1.78 percentage points.“ “It was the largest negative contribution to GDP growth for trade in 33 years; in the second quarter of 1985, trade subtracted 1.91 points.“ 10/26/2018 6:05:34 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
https://twitter.com/RobertMaguire_/status/1055872280608284673?s=19 10/26/2018 7:48:12 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.thedailybeast.com/bolton-kept-dhs-in-the-dark-in-his-push-to-seal-the-border-against-the-migrant-caravan
We knew Bolton was a bad egg now we’re seeing just how bad 10/26/2018 10:56:01 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
trump posted this last night and this morning
Quote : | " The Fake News is doing everything in their power to blame Republicans, Conservatives and me for the division and hatred that has been going on for so long in our Country. Actually, it is their Fake & Dishonest reporting which is causing problems far greater than they understand!" |
Quote : | " There is great anger in our Country caused in part by inaccurate, and even fraudulent, reporting of the news. The Fake News Media, the true Enemy of the People, must stop the open & obvious hostility & report the news accurately & fairly. That will do much to put out the flame of Anger and Outrage and we will then be able to bring all sides together in Peace and Harmony. Fake News Must End!" |
10/29/2018 9:49:11 AM |
nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
Trump: Hey guys I'm sorry about what happened, I'm going to stop by for a visit to give my condolences.
Pittsburgh: Nah we're good. 10/29/2018 10:51:01 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^ that’s crazy... basically saying the bombing will continue unless the media stops reporting on Trump negatively. 10/29/2018 1:37:32 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " that’s crazy... basically saying the bombing will continue unless the media stops reporting on Trump negatively accurately." |
10/29/2018 1:54:18 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Fake News Media, the true Enemy of the People" |
insane10/29/2018 1:58:42 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Can I just say the gross misuse of the national defense should be impeachable to itself. 10/29/2018 4:19:41 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
Saddest part is that so few (no one?) at Pentagon agrees with that sentiment. 10/29/2018 4:33:02 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I get what he’s doing. He’s setting up a strawman argument and when the media and Dems criticize him for this he will feign outrage that we aren’t patriotic and hate the law.
It’s so transparent. As I’ve said before, the level of contempt he has for his own base pales in comparison to any criticism of them from the left. 10/29/2018 4:39:57 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
They’re militarizing the border https://twitter.com/paulmcleary/status/1057006362595594240?s=21
7000 total troops there, 5200 additional troops with weapons
To stop a group of 1000 people seeking asylum… who are still more than 1000 miles away
Shameless political stunt 10/29/2018 4:53:26 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You can agree or disagree with the policies of Barack Obama or George W. Bush or Bill Clinton or George H.W. Bush or Ronald Reagan or Jimmy Carter. And lots and lots of people did -- and do. But what all of those men had in common was a moral compass -- a sense of how the presidency of the United States isn't just a job where you do everything you can to help your friends and hurt your enemies, but a job in which you are seen as beacon of moral leadership in the country and the world. Trump does not see the presidency that way." |
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/29/politics/donald-trump-moral-leadership/index.html
First oped i've seen using the term "amoral" which I think best describes trump. He doesn't care about why something happened or what it means, he only cares about spinning it to help him, or at least not hurt him, personally.10/29/2018 5:25:28 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How long until we get the official legal challenge to posse comitatus?" |
Key provisions of the posse comitatus act were repealed during the Obama tenure with the passing of the NDAA making rendition of American citizens and indefinite detention legally possible.
Source: https://www.aclu.org/other/talking-points-2012-national-defense-authorization-act-ndaa
So to answer your question....I dunno....soon? Although, more to the point, it probably wouldn't be an official legal challenge so much as just a different interpretation by this administration, which could only be challenged in the supreme court and ruled on by a black-out drunk sexual predator, so I'd say it's not looking good.10/30/2018 4:31:25 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/7x3g4x/pentagon-wants-to-predict-anti-trump-protests-using-social-media-surveillance 10/30/2018 12:09:17 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
Remember people saying that he wouldn't last the year? 10/30/2018 1:07:58 PM |
nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
Executive order to kill birthright citizenship legit or just trying to score some more points with the right wing?
[Edited on October 30, 2018 at 1:52 PM. Reason : .] 10/30/2018 1:52:33 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
10/30/2018 2:02:36 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Executive order to kill birthright citizenship legit or just trying to score some more points with the right wing? " |
as legit as that middle class tax cut that trump promised before the mid terms
i strongly doubt an interim white house council is going to draft an executive order that is so plainly unconstitutional10/30/2018 3:07:07 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
^ending birthright citizenship, introducing de-naturalization, and criminalizing and punishing dissent via the revoking of citizenship is absolutely a part of the broad agenda, though. It has to be. The right-wing cannot hold and maintain power via conventional democratic norms, so eventually they are going to resort to stripping their opponents of their voting and citizenship rights in order to continue to win elections so as to maintain the appearance of electoral legitimacy. And all of this will be in addition to the forms of criminal justice measures and gerrymandering that we've all just sort of accepted as "reasonable" forms of political suppression.
I mean, yeah, he's talking out of his ass, but he's also just saying the quiet part out loud.
[Edited on October 30, 2018 at 3:38 PM. Reason : ] 10/30/2018 3:37:13 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
but it definitely can't be done by executive order - even congress would have a constitutional challenge - so it's hot air from trump 10/30/2018 3:51:26 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
https://twitter.com/WestWingReport/status/1057435107194220544
Hopefully this is an indication of the reputation Trump will have post Presidency
Quote : | "In deep red Kansas, 17 people showed up at a Topeka Holiday Inn to see Steve Bannon (free continental breakfast in the AM) " |
10/30/2018 11:46:18 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
^^, ^^^^
yep. posturing for rubes.
Now, I'd say there's some chance that he tries it anyway, because that's the kind of self-immolating shortsighted bullshittery that is his M.O...but yeah, overall I agree with you.
Quote : | "If we're going to pick a country in the region to be friends with Iran is a WAAAYYY better choice." |
I agree a fair amount with your comparisons of Iran vs Saudi Arabia, at least in terms of their societies. If you're talking about who we should be friends with based on who is less terrible, you raise some valid points (albeit I think a little rose-colored regarding Iran). That doesn't make Iran preferable from a geopolitical, realpolitik perspective. For one thing, it wouldn't be as simple as just swapping Iran for Saudi Arabia. The 2nd, 3rd order effects would be considerable, and I think in favor of Saudi Arabia by far.
Now, we probably should create a little more distance between ourselves and Saudi Arabia, and not shun Iran so severely. Treat them, and the broader Middle East/Western Asia sort of like we treat India & Pakistan in South Asia: frenemy rivals that we both maintain a cooperative relationship with as well as leverage against each other.10/31/2018 1:33:00 AM |
nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah but oil
and weapons. 10/31/2018 9:12:51 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1057624553478897665?s=21
Red fucking meat for that base.
My God the GOP has had a loooonnnnggggg fall from Reagan (and that isn’t a compliment to reagan). 10/31/2018 9:28:19 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Is this factual?
10/31/2018 9:46:27 AM |