wolfpack hoops fail

who the fuck gave those guys credentials and allowed them to talk to recruits anyway at these events?

evidently any slapdick can make a blog and play 1 on 1 v Will Barton.

lol "superfans"

[Edited on August 25, 2009 at 12:14 PM. Reason : losers]

8/25/2009 12:12:49 PM

It was dumb, but Barton challenged those guys. Not vice versa. And I think everyone involved knew he was just kidding.

8/25/2009 12:25:09 PM

How can a bunch of guys who obviously want to get in to the recruiting scene NOT know that? Jesus... Even I know that you can't do shit like that.

It's not a huge deal, but it isn't exactly a way to keep getting these tournaments and events to keep giving you credentials...

8/25/2009 12:25:48 PM

Quote :

""I can go out and pay $9.99 to buy a Web site," said James Henderson, the managing editor of http://PackPride.com, a Scout affiliate that covers North Carolina State. "That doesn't make me a credible media member. It gives us a bad name. I roll my eyes when I hear people talk about super fans, because a lot of our sites get lumped together with these others." "

Cross-website bitch fest brewing (again)!

8/25/2009 12:25:57 PM

what a crock... Wolfpackhoops is being oppressed!

I like James Henderson and all the guys at both rivals and scout, but when James Henderson of "PackPride.com" calls up recruit x, what makes that any different than when wolfpackhoops interviews a kid? Nothing. And don't give me "they played bball with a recruit." They raised money to fly out to California to cover the event, on their own time, and don't charge $100/year to read about it.

The NCAA is really the one at fault because they try and limit access to these recruits so stringently that they've basically got either self-policing policies in place (which only but about 1% are going to follow) or policies that are unenforceable. How many people did John Wall see everyday in High School telling him to go to State or Carolina or Duke... and all of those are technically recruiting violations. Why don't those idiots figure how to nail Calipari to the wall for once.

Wolfpackhoops FTW.

any publicity is good publicity.

8/25/2009 12:37:34 PM

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"How many people did John Wall see everyday in High School telling him to go to State or Carolina or Duke... and all of those are technically recruiting violations. Why don't those idiots figure how to nail Calipari to the wall for once. "

I don't think you know the rules really. A kid in high school can say whatever he wants.

Anyone, however, who has at one time attended said University who mentions anything about said University is a considered a booster. Did anyone on the Wolfpack Hoops site go to NC State at any point? Do they know the ins and outs of the rules about boosters, if they did go to NC State at any point?

I imagine James Henderson, being the editor of a well respected and (I believe) University sponsored magazine probably knows the rules of how to deal with recruits far better than you or I who start our own blog...

[Edited on August 25, 2009 at 12:41 PM. Reason : x]

8/25/2009 12:40:22 PM

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"Anyone, however, who has at one time attended said University who mentions anything said University is a considered a booster. "

this gives unc an unfair advantage!!! walmart nation is not subject to ncaa regulations!!!!!

8/25/2009 12:45:46 PM

^ true and thanks.

I was just going by what the Ohio State Compliance dude said, which led me to believe that anyone who encouraged a recruit to go to a school was in violation.

If its just an alum then that makes a little more sense, but, its still entirely unenforceable at a large public institution

8/25/2009 12:47:17 PM

i'm not even going to act like i don't enjoy this.

8/25/2009 1:12:16 PM

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"any publicity is good publicity."

you have got to be fucking kidding me.

Washington Post picking out improprieties in recruiting regarding anyone connected to NC State...that's good for you?

That shit only works for Jerry Jones.

[Edited on August 25, 2009 at 1:39 PM. Reason : also, what was the final word on Zo? Can he enroll in the Spring at least?]

8/25/2009 1:39:35 PM

so... did we win the pick up game?

8/25/2009 2:15:43 PM

No. It ended in a quick, decisive L. We did get a shot off, but it failed.

8/25/2009 2:38:09 PM

^^^ I said it partly tongue-in-cheek but honestly, there were no violations, there weren't even any improprieties. The story was about how the line is blurring between what is legitimate contact with recruits.

WPH never solicited a commitment from Barton, nor any other recruits and they don't actively recruit and as they mentioned, they have clearance from NCState to go out and do their thing. I know that probably upsets various pay sites but i don't give a shit.

As for any publicity is still good publcity: yes, its true. It puts NCSU's name out there as a school with dedicated fans because the article clearly wasn't talking about anything done wrong by the coaching staff. And remember, as everyone likes to point out, recruits now don't know anything about 1983 or JimmyV or Norm Sloan or David Thompson.

8/25/2009 4:58:32 PM

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"also, what was the final word on Zo? Can he enroll in the Spring at least?"

no the bball prepschool guys don't enroll in the spring because they are required to play out the whole season

the reason you see prep football players is because their season is over after fall semester

8/25/2009 5:05:35 PM

Breaking News:

The guys at WPH are fucking stupid

8/25/2009 9:26:02 PM

Breaking News:

Ernie has an opinion.

8/25/2009 9:36:41 PM

We got a top5 recruiting class for 2010 on Rivals

8/25/2009 9:37:57 PM

breaking news:

Jrb599...

you know.

8/25/2009 9:43:32 PM

Facts aren't opinions, dude

8/25/2009 9:43:56 PM

http://wolfpackhoops.blogspot.com/2009/09/ryan-harrow-workout-session-with.html

pretty cool, this kid is driven

9/2/2009 4:29:16 PM

oh I do know.

9/2/2009 4:45:49 PM

was interesting to see him work out

9/3/2009 1:55:10 AM

Damn he handles the ball so well. He reminds me a lot of Chris Paul.

Why can't he come in this year???

9/3/2009 3:02:01 AM

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=4&cfg=bb&pid=88&yr=2010

Harrow is now #25 overall and a 5 * on the newest 2010 Scout rankings...

** Also, I know Tobias Harris is almost definitely not coming here, but he is now in the Top 10.

[Edited on September 4, 2009 at 3:43 PM. Reason : x]

9/4/2009 3:43:15 PM

Baylor gets a commit from the top center in the class? What the hell

9/4/2009 3:56:29 PM

^^

great, now it's only a matter of time before he re-opens his recruitment.


NC State shit: one of the three certainties of life.

9/4/2009 4:07:32 PM

not so fast

his brother-n-law accepted the head coaching job at WOG and Ryan will be up at State every time he comes to visit his family

he was up here this past week visiting and he and CJ Leslie had a chance to play some pick up basketball together and heard it went really well.

also, something that came out end of august that i read on the duke chronicle about CJL being back to a State lean. This was before his in home visit list came out of KentYucky, OR, UNC, Maryland, Connecticut, and probably Florida .... so major players will be coming to the triangle over the next several months

CJL is a different type of dude though and there is no telling what he thinking from one minute to the next.

Cothron is back and wound up not transferring so thats good for us too

9/4/2009 4:30:55 PM

Quote :

"In an early morning development, 2010 recruit Luke Cothron, has named NC State as his leader. After a great visit to campus on Saturday in which Luke got to see the Pack football team in action and talk with Coach Lowe, he decided that NC State was the frontrunner in his recruitment. Luke, who was almost all ready to pack up and head to Connecticut his Senior season, had a change of heart and decided to stay in North Carolina to finish off his high school career. Although not a commitment, the fact that he has named NC State as his leader is surely significant. The five star big man is a prized recruit who is being courted heavily by some major programs including Connecticut, Florida, Kansas, Tennessee and many more. We'll have more on this situation as it develops."

9/15/2009 8:16:15 AM

let's hope watching us play this year doesn't change his mind.

9/15/2009 8:22:07 AM

and hope people don't get to fired up this, it only makes for greater disappointment.

9/15/2009 8:27:38 AM

^^^ and so it begins... (again)

9/15/2009 9:41:29 AM

Is there a legitimate source reporting this other than a notorious homer blog? Just curious... A link would be nice as it would be good news if true at the very least...

** Is Zo Brown just reclassified? I was under the impression that they don't include those who didn't qualify in the rankings for the next years class. For instance, UConn has Ater Majok who was ruled to not qualify last year but did for this year, but he isn't included on the list (he was the #12 overall on Rivals last year)...

[Edited on September 15, 2009 at 9:46 AM. Reason : x]

9/15/2009 9:44:24 AM

oh is that from wolfpackhoops? i should've guessed.

i change my response to "let's hope they didn't flat out make that up."

9/15/2009 9:48:39 AM

Quote :

""First off, I have a bond with the head coach (Coach Lowe) and that's going good, and as a freshman I want to play a lot of minutes. Coach Lowe said it was all there.""

They posted this as the only direct quote from Cothron... Honestly, it almost seems like these guys just tell the bloggers what they want to hear to get them off their back, lol...

I hope it's true...

[Edited on September 15, 2009 at 9:51 AM. Reason : Cothron got seriously injured, didn't he? How is his recovery going?]

9/15/2009 9:50:52 AM

Yeah, I just stopped reading when I saw the capitalized 'Senior'

I was like, ah fuck WPH is gonna trick me

9/15/2009 9:51:13 AM

Quote :

"De Marcus Cousins"

9/15/2009 9:53:55 AM

haha, pp puts out an article on cothron the same day saying he has no favorites. ridiculous.

9/15/2009 12:30:00 PM

it really warms my heart to see people joining me in the anti-wolfpackhoops corner.

that is, if that's what i really am seeing.

9/15/2009 12:38:39 PM

I'm not anti-WPH in general... I love reading updates from past players and prospect interviews and whatnot.

I just don't take them seriously as a legitimate recruiting source. I mean, for fuck's sake, they don't even know booster rules. I know booster rules, even... They ask targeted questions and then run with innocuous quotes as if the guy signed a LOI in front of them. It is irresponsible.

Above all else, I wish people would stop posting things on TWW about "great news" from there unless they say beforehand that it is from WPH so I know not to get excited...

9/15/2009 12:43:42 PM

I mean I read them, but I just think everything is so over hyped. So I just don't believe them anymore.

9/15/2009 12:43:58 PM

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"Well he texted us this morning. "I have a new leader, NC State." So, I guess things have changed."

uh

9/15/2009 1:22:26 PM

"anti-wph movement"

what the fuck is that dumb shit?


if you dont like it, dont read it.

i mean i dont like BET, but i dont feel the need to bash it.

9/15/2009 1:27:41 PM

oh i don't read it.

their shit gets posted over here though, where i do read.

9/15/2009 1:28:47 PM

^I've seen your name in the comments section a few times.

9/15/2009 2:09:36 PM

Quote :

"if you dont like it, dont read it. "

9/15/2009 2:40:01 PM

so dont read this, you wont be missed, "over football"

youre one of those annoying fans, and i bet that translates into an annoying person to be around in life too. always bitching about something arent you?

9/15/2009 2:49:30 PM

Grace, you are a woman, shut up.

9/15/2009 3:02:18 PM

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"^I've seen your name in the comments section a few times."

no, you haven't. not at least since the site was more than a few days old. i don't know if i made any comments when they first started it, but i haven't read it since cousins silent verbal post.

^^ please explain to me how i'm an annoying fan. don't put words in my mouth, find posts i have made that exemplify me being an annoying fan. i barely complain about state sports, just about websites that make stuff up and act like they're legit.

9/15/2009 3:26:39 PM

your status for starters...i assume its because we lost our first game.

am i wrong?

9/15/2009 3:43:57 PM

yeah, it was monumentally disappointing that we didn't luck our way into a win, even though we were outmatched.

if my status is all you're going off of, then i don't know what to tell you.

9/15/2009 3:46:27 PM