GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "98% of coaches won't win championships. They should all be fired. " |
But 8 out of 15 coaches in the ACC have won at least a P5 conference championship. Gott has won 2 SEC regular season championships. Can he reciprocate at State? I'd be thrilled if we made us a consistent Top 5 in the ACC behind UVa, DUke, Louisville and UNC. And a consistent 5 or 6 seed in the NCAA? A top 25 program nationally. Doable
[Edited on March 13, 2015 at 9:52 AM. Reason : We should be better than Syracuse with all their scholly reductions]3/13/2015 9:51:27 AM |
stevedude hello 4763 Posts user info edit post |
when duke is out for revenge, that's almost always a guaranteed loss. im ok with 1-1 with duke for the year 3/13/2015 10:08:46 AM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
if there was any year to be disappointed, it was the Top 10 preseason pick year where Miami stole our season. which we all were. but this year was still pretty good, especially given expectations 3/13/2015 10:13:35 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5859 Posts user info edit post |
^^yep.
we could have played that game 100 times and the outcome probably wouldnt change. 3/13/2015 10:16:36 AM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
Credibility: No change
But..the secret's out...put a full court press on Cat and we're done for.
+3 if he can adapt and overcome 3/13/2015 10:32:06 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But..the secret's out...put a full court press on Cat and we're done for." |
that's not at all why we lost. their defensive matchup zone is what killed and confounded us. the press was somewhat effective for them...but we beat the press with ease against syracuse and clemson a few games ago. that was a much bigger issue earlier in the year.3/13/2015 1:01:24 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
I was disappointed in how we handled duke's press. I thought we had gotten over our issues with it after looking terrible against it when we played West Virginia because we improved after that. But we did not look good against it against Duke, along with having no clue what to do against their zones. Duke reminded me of how I have read jimmy v used to coach, throwing multiple defenses at us. 3/14/2015 12:59:35 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
It infuriates me when we're going against the press and we're still in the backcourt and whoever catches the ball dribbles once then picks up their dribble. I mean, I know guys like Kyle or Lennard are bigs and aren't used to bringing the ball up court. But god damn guys. If you keep your dribble, you might be able to occasionally bring the ball over the timeline yourself. When you immediately pick up your dribble, that's when you get trapped and have to waste a timeout or turn the ball over. 3/14/2015 1:15:20 AM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
^That almost seems customary in basketball.
Quote : | "stevedude: when duke is out for revenge, that's almost always a guaranteed loss. im ok with 1-1 with duke for the year" |
Yes, and I don't we've blow them out in a while. So we forgot about their brand of revenge.3/14/2015 9:40:39 AM |
F1V3LSU All American 1530 Posts user info edit post |
Last night I had a dream we got our ass kicked in the first round of the tourney.
-10 credibility 3/14/2015 10:46:35 AM |
fenway All American 3135 Posts user info edit post |
Duke's press didn't cause us to turn the ball over much IIRC. It was designed more to get us totally out of sync on offense. They tried to do the same thing to Notre Dame, but ND had seen what Duke did to State and had a gameplan for it.
If we'd simply had a big in the middle of that zone that was a realistic option to shoot the jumper or drive to the basket then I think it would've opened up Cat & Lacey to play more like they had been in recent games. Washington might have been that big, but then you've gotta hope he's having one of his good games and then you live with all the other things he does on the court that make you face palm.
Overall I thought our ceiling this year as a NCAA-T team. We've gotta start beating teams that we should be beating (Wake/Clemson/BC) to make a legit move up in the standings. Hopefully that comes next year with the addition of Henderson and another year of development for Cat/Anya/Freeman/Martins/Abu/Washington.
[Edited on March 14, 2015 at 3:33 PM. Reason : TBDV] 3/14/2015 3:32:05 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Credibility: No change
But..the secret's out...put a full court press on Cat and we're done for." |
I'm just going to assume that the Duke game was the first game you've watched all year
because there could be an entire highlight video of Cat breaking presses on his own3/14/2015 3:59:13 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
If the problem were as simple as the full court press, we wouldn't have beaten Louisville 3/14/2015 4:04:41 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
So...will JJ Redick ever consider coaching?
Cause that would be awesome. 3/15/2015 12:18:20 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5859 Posts user info edit post |
@PackPride: Mark Gottfried has led NC State to four-straight NCAA Tournaments. Pack had five appearances in the previous 20 years before he was hired.
+4000 3/15/2015 7:33:00 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
#BittersweetTweet 3/15/2015 7:55:28 PM |
appamali All American 4479 Posts user info edit post |
Still credible! 3/16/2015 6:37:43 AM |
WolfPack2017 Veteran 218 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ +500 for doing his job and making us at least somewhat relevant.
If he can: win us a regular or post-season ACC championship, beat everyone in this state for a season, or go one round farther in the NCAA tourney than UNC I will be happy with keeping him here for a long, long time. 3/17/2015 10:01:49 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
It didn't matter what we did in the Duke game...we still were going to lose the way they were shooting/clicking on offense. The only difference was whether we were going to play well enough to make it a 10 point game or a 30 point game. We were cold and settling for jumpers, so it was a 30 point game. Sucks...but that's the way it is.
I grew up during the Les era and was in middle/high school during the shitty part of the Herb era. Got lucky and saw us to go the tourney most of my college years at State...but those Lowe years were miserable.
Basically...+1 for credibility for making us relevant again and being really fucking excited about the NCAA tournament. It blew chunks growing up and not having a team in the tourney...and likewise being out of college, of drinking age to go out to bars and watch the tournament, and then not having anyone to cheer for.
I like our team, I like our players, I generally like our style of play, I like winning more games than we lose, I like beating UNC and Duke way more often than we have in my lifetime, and I FUCKING LOVE BEING IN THE NCAA TOURNAMENT.
gogoGottfried 3/17/2015 10:16:03 AM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
yeah but that defense though....
[Edited on March 17, 2015 at 10:36 AM. Reason : I would meet up with you to drink a beer and watch a game. ] 3/17/2015 10:31:19 AM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
Lowe was hired at the end of my freshman year. I lived that shit. +1000 for it not being that bad.
Next year should be the best year. After that, its gonna depend on what we can get out of these 2015 and 2016 classes. 2016 is gonna have to be a good one, but I have faith that he can get us some good pieces to keep it going. 3/17/2015 10:52:26 AM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ pretty much this. I lived through the days of the Les Robinson invitational (8/9 play-in game) and Herb's crappy NIT years before finally figuring out how to scrape the bottom of the barrel and get into the NCAAs. not beating the tar holes, Duke, anyone of consequence really. now we've got a coach with the place turned around, consistantly making the NCAAs, beating our rivals. feels good, man yeah we still have a ways to go, but Gott has shown he's the right man for the job; no fear of our rivals, no "kissing their rings". we might be still living in the past like Indiana, but we're on the right track, and hopefully the Curse of Jimmy V will fade away now that demented dean is in hell where he belongs.
+1000 to Gott and GO STATE 3/17/2015 12:36:53 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Claude Sitton now rusts in peace, died recently the day of Jimmy V's birthday. I can now feel the winds of change bring in a new Era for NC State basketball. Just hoping rat face retires soon.
[Edited on March 17, 2015 at 1:58 PM. Reason : ] 3/17/2015 1:56:39 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Basically...+1 for credibility for making us relevant again and being really fucking excited about the NCAA tournament. " |
This, all day. Filling out a bracket is just sad when State isn't in it. My favorite team becomes whoever is playing UNC, which is kinda sad in itself.
I was in school from 2002-2006, so I got spoiled. March was always my favorite month until the Lowe years.3/17/2015 3:28:46 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37694 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " win us a regular or post-season ACC championship, beat everyone in this state for a season, or go one round farther in the NCAA tourney than UNC I will be happy with keeping him here for a long, long time." |
3/17/2015 4:45:39 PM |
Kickstand All American 11596 Posts user info edit post |
-4 ? 3/19/2015 10:24:34 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Fire this asshole already 3/19/2015 10:37:28 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
fire him during a game 3/19/2015 10:38:46 PM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
BRING BACK HERB 3/19/2015 10:40:45 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, during this game 3/19/2015 10:54:13 PM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
So, who's going to coach against Villanova? 3/19/2015 11:35:34 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yes, during this game" |
LOL3/19/2015 11:39:10 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Crown the motherfucker. 3/19/2015 11:40:56 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. 3/19/2015 11:44:24 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
Gott's last second tourney win was better than Archie's 3/19/2015 11:45:40 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
our FT defense was spectacular 3/19/2015 11:45:59 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
So who did we hire at halftime? That dude was on fire. 3/19/2015 11:46:26 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
^I think Archie flew cross country after his miracle to even make the tournament get into the 2nd round 3/19/2015 11:49:08 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
Solid final play call +3 credibility 3/19/2015 11:52:28 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
y'all some fickle motherfuckers
PAY THE MAN 3/19/2015 11:57:06 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37694 Posts user info edit post |
+100 for this https://instagram.com/p/0b012rtrnk/ 3/20/2015 12:31:02 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
^Such a misleading clip. Gott's and Washington's physical interaction is clearly that of a player who hates NC State and a coach who wants nothing more than that player to transfer. 3/20/2015 12:36:00 AM |
F1V3LSU All American 1530 Posts user info edit post |
Not getting any credibility points from me for being handed a W 3/20/2015 12:56:36 AM |
F1V3LSU All American 1530 Posts user info edit post |
DOUBLE POAST
-10 posting credibility
[Edited on March 20, 2015 at 12:57 AM. Reason : n] 3/20/2015 12:57:27 AM |
Novicane All American 15416 Posts user info edit post |
Pay the man 3/21/2015 9:12:32 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
Needs to stay aggressive on offense and keep scoring. But excellent job thus far. 3/21/2015 9:15:38 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
TWO SWEET 16s IN FOUR YEARS
PAY
THE
MAN 3/21/2015 9:32:51 PM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
3/21/2015 9:33:15 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
fire archie, hire gott 3/21/2015 9:43:35 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Now we have to shift to panic about him leaving for a better job. 3/21/2015 9:44:30 PM |