12/15/2006 10:13:42 PM

FUCKIN LEAFS!!

[Edited on December 15, 2006 at 10:15 PM. Reason : and refs]

12/15/2006 10:14:37 PM

we went, and they didnt have 3 seats together, nor 2 seats together

so we left, the parking guy was cool and gave us our money back for the parking permit

12/15/2006 10:27:48 PM

that 2nd period was flat-out horrible. I would really enjoy it if Staal would play with some intensity.

12/15/2006 11:04:12 PM

Quote :

"I think we got hosed on the interference penalty at the end."

we got hosed on all the bullshit

the penalty shot, the non called penalty shot/penalty (is it really legal to just trip somebody while they are going in with the puck to shoot?), the holding on the other side of the ice during empty net or right before. that interference call how does that work, our guy ended up on the ice, although i didn't really see anything, i thought it was on them.

i hate saying this but i really do think the refs prevented this game from going to at least overtime.

and then some of our penalties were just stupid. stupid. stupid.

12/15/2006 11:47:54 PM

The play where Cole got tripped up was totally legal...you can rape a dude if you get the puck first.

Penalty shot was a stick-on-stick play from above, which is a big sticking point in the new rules.

The interference at the end was marginal but it was on Cole, not Staal (who was on his back on the ice).

12/15/2006 11:58:55 PM

me want wins

12/16/2006 12:00:02 AM

oh okay, it happened so fast i didn't really remember the defender getting the puck, but was that holding still bs?

12/16/2006 12:07:34 AM

by far the most questionable call was the osu-miami grade late call on the penatly shot. the ref (I forget which one it was) waited until the shot was saved to put his arm up.

12/16/2006 12:09:56 AM

Watching it on TV I saw something that I didn't in the arena...when Craig slashed Pohl on the stick, his stick broke, and those were Fraser's exact words when he was explaining it to Craig. The lateness still sucked, but it's the right call if we're going by the book (high and over top instead of underneath and within a foot of the blade).

Which holding are you talking about, the Commodore one early? That one was ticky-tack but he used the free hand.

12/16/2006 12:32:34 AM

video coming

i can't say it was too bad of a night though, i caught the luckiest shirt ever, it was flying over my head, then it bounced off of the small piece of glass in front of the 200's above the side video boards, bounced off the head of the people on the deck, and onto the back row where i was sitting. i was like holy shit



youtube made it look like shit but my FTP isn't working

its close

[Edited on December 16, 2006 at 12:46 AM. Reason : ]

12/16/2006 12:33:40 AM

It's really not close at all, he clearly gets the puck before he makes contact with Cole, and the net is clearly off the far peg before the puck crosses (not to mention Raycroft is dealing with the fact that Cole is crashing into him).

12/16/2006 12:53:12 AM

yeah i guess, i don't know the penalty rules all that well, a lot of stuff just seems like it would be but isn't

12/16/2006 12:59:42 AM

Does anyone know what the deal is with the FSN HD broadcasts? What channel are those shown on? I am in Charlotte right now, and have a feeling they will not be showing it in HD here.

12/16/2006 4:52:15 PM

12/16/2006 10:23:05 PM

that was a great game for many reasons

that goddamn song makes it annoying to respond to this thread though

12/16/2006 11:08:23 PM

Quote :

"Does anyone know what the deal is with the FSN HD broadcasts? What channel are those shown on? I am in Charlotte right now, and have a feeling they will not be showing it in HD here."

inHD, tonight it was on inHD2 (wasn't listed in the guide)

^ sorry, didn't think about that when i posted that, use firefox and get the adblock plugin, and block the iframe.. thats what i did

12/16/2006 11:18:23 PM

haha it would be interesting to see these lights kept on during a game.

12/17/2006 8:56:37 PM

i think a trade needs to be made.... i dont know who tho just yet.... maybe gleason or grahame or a package for another goalie.... khabibulin would be sick

12/17/2006 8:58:37 PM

another goalie..?

[Edited on December 17, 2006 at 8:59 PM. Reason : why]

12/17/2006 8:59:34 PM

Trade for Bobby Orr plz

12/17/2006 9:30:59 PM

Quote :

"maybe gleason or grahame or a package for another goalie.... khabibulin would be sick"

please stop discussing hockey ASAP

12/17/2006 9:50:24 PM

^plz to stop trolling a hockey thread asap

12/17/2006 9:57:32 PM

sure thing, I'm trolling.... riiiiiight.

12/17/2006 9:59:31 PM

why should i stop discussing hockey? because i said a goalie who might make an immediate impact in our system?

what would you say to do about the current funk we seem to be in? another team meeting, more one on ones with coach? everyone shave their head? commodore grow your hair out?

talk to me dammit

12/17/2006 10:05:40 PM

ward is just fine

12/17/2006 10:11:54 PM

i agree... but something needs to be done to really shake things up it seems theyre playing with no care at all.... screw the notion that everyone is playing harder bc they won the cup
thats not an excuse

12/17/2006 10:14:30 PM

Quote :

"why should i stop discussing hockey? because i said a goalie who might make an immediate impact in our system? "

If we trade Grahame, Ward is still the starter and Khabi has entirely too much salary for 1) this team, and 2)his performance.

Quote :

"what would you say to do about the current funk we seem to be in? another team meeting, more one on ones with coach? everyone shave their head? commodore grow your hair out?"

Health would be the biggest obstacle that the team needs to overcome. In addition to playing later in the season than any team in the East last year, the Canes have played the most games in the NHL. Guys like Brindy, Hedican, Wallin, Cole and others all have injuries that are at least marginally above the typical soreness that an NHL-er goes through every day. Secondly, more motion on the power play would help.
Commodore is growing his hair out. He gets it cut prior to the season and cuts it at the conclusion of said season.

Anything else for me before you cease hockey discussion?

12/17/2006 10:15:18 PM

yes, lets trade for khabibulins $6.75 million contract. WHAT A SWELL IDEA!

you're about as fucking retarded as apkaufma who tried to tell me we should buy out Rod Brind'Amour before the last season. Holy shit, what a fucking genius that clown was.

12/17/2006 10:24:31 PM

youre right, i shouldnt talk about the canes really....eventhough i do love them. thanks for putting me in my place.

but i will still be posting in this thread from time to time

12/17/2006 10:28:21 PM

im all for talking hockey, but talking hockey does not involve nikolai khabibulin. unless the words, "worst idea ever" are included.

at any rate, lets say Khabi didnt suck... his salary would put us over the cap and the League would block the move

[Edited on December 17, 2006 at 10:41 PM. Reason : cant believe i even gave a real answer]

12/17/2006 10:40:18 PM

^no, that would be the cooperalls

12/17/2006 10:41:01 PM

hows does Khabibulin wearing cooperalls sound to you?

12/17/2006 10:42:18 PM

i honestly just threw a familiar name out there.... if i werent studying macro presently i wouldve looked up something better... for instance i know roenick is rumored to be traded, then i would discuss where i think he would fit in.... same for darcy tucker....

sorry bout the khabi talk

12/17/2006 10:42:37 PM

^roenick is a "me-first" jackass that past his prime 7 years ago. He's probably the worst guy in the league for this team. Also, while he's playing well now, Tucker is a total douchebag.

12/17/2006 10:43:37 PM

Trade for Khabibulin, Roenick, Tkachuck, Mike Gartner (I bet he can still play!), Numminen, and bring back Tverdovsky. Winnipeg Jets line FTW

12/17/2006 10:47:04 PM

agreed there... i dont want either of them in this city unless they are on the losing team that isnt ours.

would leclair fit in here do you think? maybe a recchi like replacement? just curious.... i dont know how his stats look this year or anything.... but seems like he could be a role player

12/17/2006 10:47:08 PM

hahah like roenick not playing in the 96 world cup because he was a FA and didnt want to risk getting hurt but still hung around the team and took credit. he says shit that needs to be said at times, but he can do that from some other team.

and again i agree with dammit100, tucker is a cheap shoting prick.

I'd take a trade for dougie weight again. even though we could have had him for far less than that 3.5 million contract.

but a serious name we should look at... wayne gretzky, i heard he was good.

12/17/2006 10:47:25 PM

ok seriously though...

John Michael Liles of the Colorado Avalanche.

[Edited on December 17, 2006 at 10:49 PM. Reason : srsly]

12/17/2006 10:48:53 PM

Honestly I wouldn't really consider making any sort of major trade until at least after Christmas, barring a major crisis/injury. Stillman appears to be a huge boost to the PP and to our scoring in general. Aucoin is showing some potential, so maybe keep him for another game or two (though doubtful if Brindy comes back). Actually, Aucoin is doing pretty well with faceoffs.

Look at our lineup (a potential lineup at least):

Stillman Staal Cole
Whitney Brindy Williams
Ladd Belanger Walker
LaRose K.Ads Letowski

Commodore Hedican
Gleason Wallin
Babchuck Wesley

Ward
Grahame

Let some combination of C.Ads, Tanabe, Aucoin, Hutch, and eventually Gleason when Kaberle returns from the IR ride the pine.

What do we have? A really solid 1st line-up there with most teams' first lines. A great, checking and scoring second line. Whitney can dish out sweet passes, Williams has been scoring at a nice clip lately, and Brindy is the MVP of the team. Our third line I think is solid too. Although we aren't likely to see 25 goals out of Belanger like we did with Cullen, he is on pace for 14 goals (he had 17 last year). Moreover, Walker is on pace for a really nice 24 goals and 55 points. Our depth is pretty good. We can predict having one 40 goal scorer (Staal), four 30 goal scorers (Cole, Willy, Whitney, Brind'Amour), and one 20 goal scorer (Walker). That's pretty damn good. Commodore is also on pace for a surprising 10 goals. We have some good scoring depth I think.

On paper our defense is our weak point. We have no true #1 guy like a Lidstrom or Redden to log 25-30 minutes a night. We devy our time up between about 6 second pairing type players and hope for the best. Sometimes the results are great, but lately our D has been pretty sporadic. We REALLY need Gleason to step up his game for us to have a chance of succeeding, IMO. Hedican and Commodore have been our two most consistent players and are producing well. Wes has also been pretty reliable. Slow, but reliable. Chucky has been up and down as predicted. He's a project, but he should be flat out solid in a few seasons, provided we keep him. Kaberle will help our defense tremendously by providing an unheralded, but steady presence and more importantly, a good ability to man the point on the PP. Even MORE importantly, he is always keen on making that outlet pass to lead to an outnumbered rush and a good scoring chance. Nevertheless, if we do make a deal, I would perhaps go for a more blockbuster type thing involving a defensive gem like Pitkanen, Timonen, or Boyle. Heck, maybe even a guy like Brian Pothier http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?name=brian+pothier&hubname=nhl-capitals. Another depth pairing guy isn't going to help us.

Our goaltending has been lukewarm lately (save Wardo's recent performance vs. the Bolts), sure. But hell no do we trade for another starter! Cam is the playoff MVP last year-without Ward the Stanley Cup is elsewhere. He is really, really good and will only get better (he's freakin' 22 years old!). If we trade Ward, we better get a PREMIUM addition to this team-someone like Malkin, Ryan Whitney + package, Michalek, along with a shiny new starting goaltender. Grahame is a hot and cold backup. We only have him for two years-after that Justin Peters SHOULD be knocking at the door to play backup (and play a good one at that).

I think we have a real good team up and down. Do we have a chance gunning against a team like Buffalo, San Jose, or Anaheim in a 7 game series? Probably only a tiny one. But then again anything can happen in the playoffs. What I'm saying (my thesis here) is that we wait a little bit to see how things shakeup with Stillman and Rod the Bod in our lineups before we go doing something pointless and stupid (like trading Ladd).

12/17/2006 11:47:28 PM

excellent points sir

12/18/2006 12:19:10 AM

we need ulf samuelsson

12/18/2006 10:12:54 PM

Liles damn it.

12/19/2006 2:22:42 AM

Canes v. Flyers up on FSN, we should win, right?

12/19/2006 6:59:04 PM

Nice work by Hutchinson & Williams on the goal, but kudos to the Wizard for drawing ALL FIVE Philly players to the puck and then ditching it.

12/19/2006 7:29:16 PM

i wish i had PIP x 5


whats man games lost

[Edited on December 19, 2006 at 7:38 PM. Reason : ]

12/19/2006 7:30:10 PM

If you add up all the games that each player lost to injury.

12/19/2006 7:43:52 PM

2-0. ftw.

12/19/2006 8:05:02 PM

12/19/2006 8:07:29 PM

could we hit the post any more


WINNAR OF FIGHT

[Edited on December 19, 2006 at 8:30 PM. Reason : ]

12/19/2006 8:19:01 PM