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Michigan State, our ACC/Big 10 Challenge opponent, just lost to Grand Valley State in an exhibition game

11/2/2007 10:17:44 PM

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haha seriously?

i mean, i don't want them to be great, b/c i want to beat them. but i don't want them losing exhibition games bad.

11/2/2007 10:18:46 PM

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No fucking way. Let's roll them bitches right in front of their Izzone crap.

11/2/2007 10:19:08 PM

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Hansbrough will still get his points for sure.

11/3/2007 12:49:21 PM

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"(However, plenty of people up here are just too stupid to talk about sports in general).

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(However, plenty of people up here in the media are just too stupid to talk about sports in
general).

(However, plenty of people up here in UNC shirts are just too stupid to talk about sports in general).

11/4/2007 12:15:51 AM

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"N.C. STATE
A squad already boasting a formidable frontcourt duo in Brandon Costner and Ben McCauley made itself stronger at several positions, including up front. “I like their class, especially because of J.J. Hickson,” Oettinger says of a five-freshman contingent.

6-0 Javier Gonzalez
Sidney Lowe’s Wolfpack returns virtually intact, other than a gaping hole at point guard. Two sophomores, Farnold Degand and Marques Johnson, acclimated to the program while sitting out last season as transfers from other Division I schools – Iowa State and Tennessee, respectively. Johnson does not become eligible until the conclusion of the fall semester.

Gonzalez follows in the footsteps of former Pack great Chris Corchiani, who likewise came to Raleigh from Miami two decades ago.

But, while Corchiani was a nationally known prep star, his successor comes with modest credentials. Oettinger does not even think Gonzalez can cut it as a starting point guard in the ACC. “I really thought he was more of a mid-major prospect,” the evaluator says. “He does everything pretty well, I don’t think he does anything great.” Oettinger describes Gonzalez as athletic, quick, and a solid ballhandler and defender.

Konchalski points out that Gonzalez moved south from Elizabeth, New Jersey, a good proving ground. “He’s a tough, competitive kid,” he says. “He’s quick and he defends and he competes.”

One ACC assistant insists Gonzalez is a good shooter, with the skills to be an immediate factor. Well, not immediate – the point guard is out until around Thanksgiving with a torn ligament in his right thumb.

6-9 J.J. Hickson
Like Duke’s Singler, FSU’s Alabi, and Georgia Tech's Gani Lawal, the burly Hickson already has attracted notice before playing a single regular season game in college. “J.J. Hickson is a major, major, major get,” Konchalski says. “He’s really good. He’s a horse.”

Oettinger says Hickson is strong, athletic, quick, and dangerous around the basket. The post player possesses a handsome range of offensive moves, including a jump hook and a jumpshot effective to 15 feet. “He’s going to be a tough matchup as long as he’s going to be in college,” Oettinger predicts. “He’s going to be a lottery pick.”

An ACC assistant describes Hickson as “a pro-level athlete” with impressive scoring and passing abilities. “It will be interesting to see how they use him, because McCauley and Costner play pretty well together,” he says.

6-7 Tracy Smith
Smith came from Detroit to play at Durham’s Mt. Zion Academy, and emerged as that notable program’s best player. Smith had a great reputation early in his career, according to Konchalski, but failed to live up to his billing until he lost 60 pounds following his junior season in high school.

Oettinger says that, with the weight loss, Smith’s athleticism emerged. “Suddenly he became a much better player, because he always had good skills.” The scout describes Smith as a natural power forward who can shoot or drive. “He’s a big-time player,” Oettinger says.

An ACC assistant lauds Smith as a skilled, faceup power forward. “When he’s motivated, he has talent,” the coach says. Another assistant says Smith has an effective mid-range offensive game, but expects he will move inside “once the lefty (Costner) leaves after this year.”

Other N.C. State freshmen: 6-4 Clayton Beard, 6-5 Johnny Thomas
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Interesting comments about Javi

http://www.wral.com/sports/blogpost/2001186/

11/4/2007 6:35:14 PM

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"Oettinger describes Gonzalez as athletic, quick, and a solid ballhandler and defender."


perfect

11/4/2007 6:42:28 PM

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"ballhandler"

11/4/2007 6:43:06 PM

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^^did you notice that he also said he

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"does not even think Gonzalez can cut it as a starting point guard in the ACC."

11/4/2007 6:44:38 PM

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"“once the lefty (Costner) leaves after this year.”
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god i hope not

11/4/2007 6:44:51 PM

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hickson and costner will both leave, more than likely.

11/4/2007 7:44:19 PM

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Ehhh I don't know if Hickson is going to be among the top 10-12 or so freshman that leave after one year.

Costner may leave, but what position will he play in the NBA? I think he's an ideal college player, but will be an NBA role player. Kind of like Sean May or Hansbrough.

11/4/2007 7:50:42 PM

simonn
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perhaps.

i'm just preparing myself. i suggest you do the same.

11/4/2007 7:51:14 PM

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I don't know. I think we'll get one more year out of Costner too. He and McCauley seem to be really good friends and I think he's enjoying his time here. According to the Technician he was one of the two athletes who organized the athlete talent show for charity they had in Stewart a week or two ago. I don't think people who plan on peacing out in a year care much about anything going on not related to their sport. Read, I'm referring to Hickson. Of course all of this is provided we don't make a deep run in the NCAA tournament. If we make it to the Elite 8 or Final Four, basically far enough for Costner to get the exposure necessary to be considered a lottery pick, then I would agree with you in saying he's gone.

[Edited on November 4, 2007 at 7:56 PM. Reason : asdf]

11/4/2007 7:55:59 PM

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latest rumor is that we might lose another in addition to costner/hickson. no mention of why, though.

11/4/2007 7:59:41 PM

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where's the rumor coming from?

11/4/2007 8:04:32 PM

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gravis (douchebag)

11/4/2007 8:09:43 PM

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who's he saying we are going to lose?

11/4/2007 8:20:26 PM

simonn
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that, he didn't say.

[Edited on November 4, 2007 at 8:24 PM. Reason : what i said is literally all he said.]

11/4/2007 8:24:38 PM

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clayton beard perhaps?

[Edited on November 4, 2007 at 8:27 PM. Reason : or maybe he is just fucking w/ everybody and he's talking about gavin]

11/4/2007 8:25:41 PM

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Ferguson

11/4/2007 8:27:14 PM

Walter
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where's he going?

11/4/2007 8:27:38 PM

simonn
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^^^ beard is a walk on, so no. (he said it in reference to scholarships)

ferguson, maybe. although he's already transferred once.

[Edited on November 4, 2007 at 8:28 PM. Reason : ^]

11/4/2007 8:28:13 PM

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It's gotta be Ferg

If he were to transfer to a DII school, would he have to sit out a year?

11/4/2007 8:30:09 PM

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if he was going to do that though, he would've done it already. or at least i would think.

11/4/2007 8:31:55 PM

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maybe Thomas has a career ending injury

11/4/2007 8:33:50 PM

simonn
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that i can't imagine is the case, since he was walking on it fine up until the surgery.

lol we could do this all day, i'm just going to try not to think about it.

11/4/2007 8:34:55 PM

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maybe Ferguson is waiting until after this semester when we get Johnson and when Javi is healthy as to not screw us over by only having Degand and Fells at guard

[Edited on November 4, 2007 at 8:53 PM. Reason : and i'm done]

11/4/2007 8:52:12 PM

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horner could go ... possibly seeing his minutes becoming smaller .... But I think hes the type that knows he isnt going to the nba, so hopefully would stay anyhow and get his degree.

Other than that, I cant think of anyone who would leave other than fergie ferg.

11/4/2007 9:31:40 PM

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how will his minutes be getting smaller if costner and hickson leave?

and i know for a fact that horner isn't leaving

11/4/2007 9:36:11 PM

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^ don't worry about. some posts ^^ are too stupid to respond to.

11/4/2007 9:37:37 PM

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^^^

^ basically.

11/4/2007 9:38:55 PM

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its fells, nba

11/4/2007 9:43:49 PM

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Maybe fells or McCauley are considering going pro? Although it would be a big mistake for either one of them and I doubt either one are considering it. Just surmising.

11/4/2007 9:45:19 PM

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"horner could go ... possibly seeing his minutes becoming smaller .... But I think hes the type that knows he isnt going to the nba, so hopefully would stay anyhow and get his degree.

Other than that, I cant think of anyone who would leave other than fergie ferg."


This was not a stupid post. He is talking about transfering, not going to the NBA.

How is that dumb? Of course it is possible that Horner may get ticked off if his minutes go down and want to transfer, but that will not happen.

[Edited on November 4, 2007 at 9:49 PM. Reason : dump]

11/4/2007 9:48:48 PM

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i think everyone knew he wasn't talking about the NBA

11/4/2007 9:52:25 PM

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horner will get plenty of pt in the next few years.

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that'd require quite a season by fells.

[Edited on November 4, 2007 at 10:18 PM. Reason : not impossible, but that is far from a done deal at this point, imo.]

11/4/2007 10:18:03 PM

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http://www.theacc.com/sports/m-baskbl/0708prencsu.html

NC State preview with video on the right.

11/4/2007 11:26:53 PM

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unc just landed the gayest looking recruit since kris lang

11/5/2007 3:24:27 PM

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11/5/2007 4:47:57 PM

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^^ haha, where is that guy from? The North Pole? I've never seen a pastier looking person in my life...

11/5/2007 6:10:24 PM

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All of scotland is pastier than that.

11/5/2007 6:14:01 PM

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He looks like Dean Smith in this pic



11/5/2007 6:19:16 PM

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i mean, i'm pretty white, but i at least have indications of sunlight on like... my face and forearms.

[Edited on November 5, 2007 at 6:20 PM. Reason : ^ holy shit, he does. i guess this guy was just in the cards.]

11/5/2007 6:20:12 PM

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http://northcarolina.scout.com/a.z?s=78&p=9&cfg=bb&c=8&yr=2008

Another crappy recruiting class being put together over in Chapel Hill

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Is there any reason that I HATE all white players at Duke and UNC. The black guys don't bother me but the whiteys just piss me off. Paulus, McRoberts, Hansbrough... hell I already hate Kyle Singler and I have never seen him play...

11/5/2007 6:25:09 PM

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Nice class coming together for UNC.

11/5/2007 6:25:38 PM

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Are there any teams that we face that have players that have been busted for drunk driving? We need to bring back the "99 bottles of beer..." chant.

99 bottles of beer on the wall,
99 bottles of beer,
take one down,
drive around town
98 bottles of beer on the wall.

11/5/2007 6:42:58 PM

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If anyone cares (doubtful), you can listen to Wake's first exhibition game from the link at

http://redzonemedia.com/viewschedule.asp?sportID=2&SchoolID=97

(note that they incorrectly list the opponent as ETSU instead of Wake)

11/5/2007 6:55:44 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvW0SGEqC5k

My favorite Roy Williams quote.

11/5/2007 7:40:47 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCkYMbRkI5o

NC State downs UCONN, the defending champions, to make it to the Sweet 16. My entire apartment complex was going nuts. Enjoy this ten minute video of one of the best State games in recent memory. Hopefully we go a lot farther in this years tournament.

11/5/2007 8:29:44 PM

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