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Prawn Star
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Watch Rivers' numbers take off now. His receiving cast of VJ and Buster Davis is underwhelming to say the least, which has allowed teams to stack the box and double-cover Gates.

Chambers is the type of guy who can jump over people and snag the ball in traffic. Rivers needs a receiver like that.

10/16/2007 3:53:50 PM

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rivers just did a backflip. chambers to san diego is great news for #17

10/16/2007 3:54:42 PM

Kodiak
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Nice move. With Eric Parker going on IR, they needed a veteran at WR.

10/16/2007 4:50:46 PM

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they should trade a 2010 5th round draft pick to the chargers and pick up Randy Moss - or at least put the offer on the table

10/16/2007 5:06:23 PM

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Not only do you have a great first name...I like the way you think Charlie

10/17/2007 2:23:30 PM

markgoal
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^^^True. The Chargers don't have any one with as much experience dropping passes as Eric Parker.

10/17/2007 3:37:11 PM

Prawn Star
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LOL, I guess when you watch only 1 Charger game all year and it happens to be their worst performance, your perception of the team gets skewed a little.

PS Eric Parker has great hands. The playoff game was an anomaly. Chris Chambers on the other hand... well, lets just say that he takes after TO sometimes.

10/17/2007 4:03:02 PM

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http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=2006&type=Receiving&range=AFC&rank=055

Parker actually caught 68.6% of passes thrown to him last year, placing 11th in the AFC.

That being said, I've seen him make ridiculous drops in more games than just last year's playoff debacle.

10/17/2007 4:09:09 PM

Prawn Star
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You're confused, or you're full of shit.

According to NFL statistics, Parker dropped 2 passes during the regular season last year.

For comparison's sake, Chambers dropped 8 and TO dropped 17.

10/17/2007 4:14:40 PM

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First, those aren't "NFL statistics," because the NFL doesn't keep track of drops.

Second, drops are an inherently subjective stat, because what one person interprets as being over- or underthrown might be considered a drop to another person.

10/17/2007 4:24:33 PM

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Parker may have been productive for periods, but he definitely had serious issues dropping passes for the last 1/3 or so of the regular season and playoffs. I actually watched most of the Chargers games last year.

10/17/2007 7:19:40 PM

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"don't hate on parker, look at the % of balls thrown his way he catches:

2004:66%
2005:71%
2006:69%

other 2006 catch%'s:
steve smith 60%
chad johnson 57%
torry holt 52%
larry fitzgerald: 62%
marvin harrison: 64%
reggie wayne: 63%

"


then it was said...

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"those % mean almost nothing considering all those other recievers get thrown to about 10 times more per game"


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passes thrown to:
Parker
2004: 71
2005: 80
2006: 70
=221

2006:
steve smith:139
chad johnson:152
torry holt: 179
larry fitzgerald: 111
marvin harrison: 148
reggie wayne: 137

So, in a sample size larger than any of those receivers, parker has caught a higher % of balls thrown his way than those studs. I'm definitely not saying he's better than any of those WR's, but calling him "brick hands" and saying he won't be missed is misguided."

10/17/2007 7:31:34 PM

Prawn Star
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Turnip knows whats up.

Not having Parker out there is one of the reasons that Rivers is struggling this year.

10/17/2007 7:49:40 PM

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just focus on the good part of all of this rather than comparing. chargers have just made a huge move. with a more passing game threat, LT will be even better, Rivers will be even better, and then we win the superbowl

[Edited on October 17, 2007 at 8:14 PM. Reason : l]

10/17/2007 8:14:36 PM

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"we"?

lol nice

All aboard the bandwagon. Chargers are poised to make a run.

[Edited on October 17, 2007 at 8:18 PM. Reason : 2]

10/17/2007 8:17:33 PM

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"HEY COACH...LISSEN TO THIS!

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10/17/2007 8:21:17 PM

AndyMac
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hahahahaha

10/18/2007 9:17:00 AM

markgoal
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In all seriousness, drop statistics, especially percentage dropped is one of the most worthless statistics in football, which is why it isn't officially kept. Different receivers can see a completely different set of passes thrown their way, depending on their offense, the routes they run, the throws their QB makes, coverage they see, their role, etc. We aren't talking about free throws here.

Example: Lets say Steve Smith catches 60% largely made of 30 yard passes or jump balls against a number one corner with safety help, LDT catches 90% of swing and screen passes thrown to him, and Eric Parker catches 70% on hitches and quick slants with the defense focusing on Gates and LDT. Who is the best receiver? Who has the best hands? Do those percentages mean anything at all?

10/18/2007 10:02:46 AM

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"For Thursday’s practice, all Chargers players will be wearing either their college or high school jerseys. The idea was initiated by Rivers, who simply wanted to guys to have some fun and celebrate where they come from."

10/18/2007 11:52:37 AM

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i hope they take pictures of this

10/18/2007 12:26:32 PM

walterMaxSE
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This is what's important right?...
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Chris Chambers
Rec/Trgt
2004 69/138 = 50%
2005 82/166 = 49%
2006 59/154 = 38%
2007 31/66 = 50%
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The excuse is that he's always had poor QB's throwing to him, and a shitty team, but those are some poor percentages.

10/19/2007 7:20:06 AM

DaveOT
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^Look at Randy Moss's numbers from last year.

10/19/2007 9:12:41 AM

Prawn Star
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^^Chambers runs deep routes. He stretches the field and also runs over the middle. Of course his catch % is gonna be lower than a possession receiver. He also opens things up for the guys underneath, because they have to put a safety on him.

This will benefit Rivers and LT the most, forcing teams to back off the LOS lest they get burned.

[Edited on October 19, 2007 at 12:07 PM. Reason : 2]

10/19/2007 12:06:19 PM

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"^Look at Randy Moss's numbers from last year.

2002 MIN 106/184 0.576
2003 MIN 111/172 0.645
2004 MIN 49/85 0.576
2005 OAK 60/124 0.483
2006 OAK 42/97 0.432
2007 NE 40/55 0.727

Stat source: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/4262/"


Obviously can't make a direct comparison between Moss and Chambers, but it does give some hope that Chambers might be better with laser vision QB play.


[Edited on October 19, 2007 at 12:22 PM. Reason : ,]

10/19/2007 12:19:42 PM

AndyMac
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"^Look at Randy Moss's numbers from last year."


Excellent point.

10/19/2007 12:20:18 PM

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"i hope they take pictures of this"


http://www.chargers.com/news/headlines/chargers-all-smiles.htm

This is the only one I saw of Rivers:

10/19/2007 2:12:53 PM

Kodiak
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haha, awesome

10/19/2007 3:02:22 PM

walterMaxSE
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Also read at the bottom of this article. http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/chargers/20071019-9999-1s19chargers.html
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"The bye-week work ended on a fun note, as a loose but crisp practice featured most players wearing jerseys from college or high school.
While Rivers in his North Carolina State jersey and helmet and Shawne Merriman in his Maryland jersey and helmet were classic, the highlights were Antonio Gates in his Kent State basketball jersey and Clinton Hart in his baseball jersey from Central Florida Community College. Neither Gates nor Hart played college football.

Things got crazy after practice as several pairs of players faced off in 100-yard dashes. The long-anticipated Lorenzo Neal vs. Marcus McNeill race, in which Neal gave the much younger (and heavier) offensive tackle a 10-yard head start, was won easily by McNeill. Later, Antonio Cromartie affirmed his title as the team's fastest player by beating Cletis Gordon.

It got a little absurd when 350-pound defensive tackle Jamal Williams, limping slightly following Monday's arthroscopic surgery on both knees, told the speed-challenged Rivers, “I like me over you right now.”

The players are off until Monday.

Said Turner: “I think it's good to relax and step back a little bit.”"

10/20/2007 11:08:22 AM

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/10/26/chargers.ap/index.html

The Chargers will play Houston as scheduled in Qualcomm.

10/26/2007 3:06:08 PM

Kodiak
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dominating

10/28/2007 3:52:47 PM

wolfNstein
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San Diego is on fire!

10/28/2007 3:56:32 PM

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haha, 3 of 4 and 2 touchdowns. thats efficiency right there

10/28/2007 3:59:28 PM

Kodiak
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holy shit, Cromartie with 2 TDs

10/28/2007 4:00:31 PM

DaveOT
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ahahahaha

awesome

10/28/2007 4:01:44 PM

marko
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Pass: 3/4/0/101 TD: 2 (49,31)

10/28/2007 4:08:10 PM

Kodiak
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CROMARTIE!

10/28/2007 4:08:17 PM

skokiaan
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rivers owning schaub again

10/28/2007 4:09:09 PM

marko
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Pass: 6/8/0/128 TD: 3 (49,31,14)

35-3 chargers

10/28/2007 4:26:15 PM

tracer
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he's been sacked once, and it was by mario

10/28/2007 5:19:06 PM

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ha, I wonder what mario said to him after the sack.

10/28/2007 5:23:03 PM

markgoal
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The sack was a coverage sack when Rivers didn't want to risk anything up 35-3.

10/28/2007 5:39:05 PM

AndyMac
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Nah man, it was a gift from one NC State player to another.

10/28/2007 6:16:06 PM

skokiaan
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Did the chargers actually have to do anything to win this game?

10/28/2007 11:18:03 PM

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"rivers owning schaub again"


did schaub even play?

10/28/2007 11:19:55 PM

tracer
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yes

10/28/2007 11:37:13 PM

markgoal
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Schaub got knocked the f--- out!

^^^^Maybe. It did look like Mario cradled him to the ground.

10/29/2007 1:30:38 AM

Kodiak
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CROMARTIE!

11/4/2007 2:51:28 PM

Wolfman Tim
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Rivers starting a miracle comeback

11/4/2007 4:16:18 PM

skokiaan
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you mean a julius hodge-esque comeback

11/4/2007 4:17:58 PM

marko
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chargers got assraped

11/4/2007 4:40:38 PM

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