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I almost feel bad doing this now because it's probably going to change in the next 24 hours. Oh, well...

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S Jim Noel commits to Boston College
DE Demi Thompson commits to South Florida
Scholarship extended to CB Josh Hunter
Scholarship extended to OL John Prior
Scholarship extended to WR Michael Bowman


2009 Football Scholarship Offers:
Bold = Commit

QB
No Offers (Bible normally waits until camp to offer QBs)

RB
**** Desmond Scott (Hillside HS) Durham, NC 5-9/179 Rutgers
*** Greg Pratt (Naples HS) Naples, FL 5-9/165/4.40
*** Rolandan Finch (St. Xavier HS) Louisville, KY 5-10/200/4.50
* Jontel Evans (Bethel HS) Hampton, VA 5-11/190/4.60

FB
* Marcus Green (Scotch Plains-Fanwood HS) Scotch Plains, NJ 6-2/220/4.65

WR
**** Justin Brown (Concord HS) Wilmington, DE 6-3.5/210/4.48
**** Jheranie Boyd (Ashbrook HS) Gastonia, NC 6-3/185/4.45
**** Stephon Gilmore (South Pointe HS) Rock Hill, SC 6-0.5/176/4.50
**** Michael Bowman (Ridgeland HS) Rossville, GA 6-4/206/4.5
*** Quan Rucker (West Iredell HS) Statesville, NC 6-0/185/4.45
*** Kinsman Thomas (Marlboro County HS) Bennettsville, SC 6-3/210/4.59
*** Laroy Reynolds (Maury HS) Norfolk, VA
*** Quintin Payton (T L Hanna HS) Anderson, SC 6-4/190

TE
**** Arthur Fontaine (Dartmouth HS) North Dartmouth, MA 6-5/235/4.93
*** Paul Carrezola (Neshaminy HS) Langhorne, PA 6-4/248/4.80 Rutgers

OT
***** Xavier Nixon (Jack Britt) Fayetteville, NC 6-6/285
*** Kyle Koehne (Cathedral HS) Indianapolis, IN 6-6/300/5.30
*** Travis Bond (Bertie HS) Windsor, NC 6-6/330
*** Brooks Michel (Carmel HS) Carmel, IN 6-7/280
*** Austen Bujnoch (Elder HS) Cincinnati, OH 6-5/250 Cincinnati
*** Colin Rodkey (Gateway SHS) Monroeville, PA 6-4.5/266/5.53
*** John Prior (Portsmouth HS) Portsmouth, OH 6-6/280

OG
**** Quinton Washington (Timberland HS) Saint Stephen, SC 6-4/322
*** Ryan Spiker (Tri-Valley HS) Dresden, OH 6-4.5/295
*** Will Jackson (Farragut HS) Knoxville, TN 6-4/280/5.10

C
No Offers

DT
*** Eric McDaniel (Calhoun HS) Calhoun, GA 6-1.5/297/5.00
*** Brian Slay (Stone Bridge HS) Ashburn, VA 6-3/275
*** Adam Replogle (Centerville HS) Centerville, OH 6-2.5/250
*** Frankie Davis (East Ridge HS) Clermont, FL 6-3/270
*** Josh Elizondo (Naples HS) Naples, FL 6-2/280
*** Deion Roberson (Tucker HS) Tucker, GA 6-2/275
*** Tyson Chandler (North Plainfield HS) North Plainfield, NJ 6-6/315

DE
**** Duane Chisolm (Beaufort HS) Beaufort, SC 6-2/250
*** Julius Forte (Boca Ciega HS) Gulfport, FL 6-2/221/4.66
*** Izaan Cross (Flowery Branch HS) Flowery Branch, GA 6-4/250
*** Ricky Dowdy (High Point Central HS) High Point, NC 6-3/225
*** Justin Foxx (Victory Christian Center Sch.) Charlotte, NC
*** Sylvester Crawford (Victory Christian Center Sch.) Charlotte, NC 6-5/215
*** Jason Ankrah (Quince Orchard HS) Gaithersburg, MD 6-4/240/4.79
*** Clinton Simpkins (Chancellor HS) Fredericksburg, VA 6-3/215/4.60
*** Demi Thompson (Lake Mary HS) Lake Mary, FL 6-1/240/4.80 South Florida
*** Bernardo Nunez (Hoboken HS) Hoboken, NJ 6-2/220/4.70
* Brian Jordan (Great Bridge HS) Chesapeake, VA 6-4/207
* James Gayle (Bethel HS) Hampton, VA 6-5/225

MLB
**** Glenn Carson (Southern Regional HS) Manahawkin, NJ 6-3/220/4.60
**** Hawatha Bell (David W Butler HS) Matthews, NC 6-0/225
*** Corico Hawkins (Baldwin HS) Milledgeville, GA 6-0/220
*** Ryan Cheek (Lancaster HS) Lancaster, OH 6-0.5/232/4.51

SLB
**** Jerrod Askew (Oscar F. Smith HS) Chesapeake, VA 6-0/215
*** Luke Kuechly (St. Xavier HS) Cincinnati, OH 6-3/205
*** Tariq Edwards (Marlboro County HS) Bennettsville, SC 6-3/217/4.75

WLB
**** Jamil Merrell (Paul M. Hodgson Vocational Tec) Newark, DE 6-4/210/4.60
*** Nigel Mitchell-Thornton (Stephenson HS) Stone Mountain, GA 6-2/210
* Hans Rice (Eufaula HS) Eufaula, AL 6-3/195/4.5

S
**** Prince Kent (Norcross HS) Norcross, GA 6-2/193/4.62
*** E.J. Banks (Montour HS) Mc Kees Rocks, PA 6.0/175/4.50
*** D.J. Swearinger (Greenwood HS) Greenwood, SC 6-0/190
*** David Sims (Calhoun County HS) Saint Matthews, SC 6-0/208
*** Everett Proctor (Jack Britt) Fayetteville, NC 6-2/200
*** Jim Noel (Everett HS) Everett, MA 6-4/180/4.48 Boston College

CB
**** Travis Hawkins (Quince Orchard HS) Gaithersburg, MD 5-11/185/4.42
**** Terry Shankle (South Stanly HS) Norwood, NC 6-0/180
**** Jamal Reid (Lafayette HS) Mayo, FL 6-0/175/4.45
*** Zach Greene (Leesville Road HS) Raleigh, NC 5-10/170
*** Josh Hunter (Harding University HS) Charlotte, NC 6-1/180
* Rashard Smith (Dublin HS) Dublin, GA 5-10/175


K,P
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Scholarships Count
16 Available for 2009
-3 2009 Commits (Dowdy, Cheek, Slay)
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13 Scholarships Remaining

Recruiting Breakdown
OFFENSE
QB - 0
Backfield - 0
Receivers - 0
Linemen - 0
Total Offense - 0

DEFENSE
Linemen - 2
Linebackers - 1
Secondary - 0
Total Defense - 3

Geographical Diversity
North Carolina - 1
Ohio - 1
Virginia - 1

Star Count (highest of the two sites)
5* - 0
4* - 0
3* - 3
2* - 0
1* - 0
Average Stars - 3.0

6/26/2008 8:36:02 PM

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Well Proctor is athletic and we gave him a shot at impressing the coaches enough to have him offered as a QB. Now it's up to the coaches. The thing about Proctor is that even if he doesn't make it at QB he is athletic enough that he could play safety. I would just hope he'd be a team player enough to accept the move if such a scenario played out.

6/26/2008 8:52:48 PM

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scout premium says we have out 4th commit does anyone know who it is???????????

6/26/2008 10:36:49 PM

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RB James Washington

See! I knew I should have waited a couple of hours!

6/26/2008 10:41:32 PM

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new commit james washington i know nothing about him but it is reported on scout premium he is a 3 star on rivals the number 47 running back http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=8&c=1&nid=3332396
http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=68347

[Edited on June 26, 2008 at 10:48 PM. Reason : rivals]

6/26/2008 10:41:44 PM

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I like this commit. I think Gregg Pratt kind of cooled on us. Washington is a good pickup. It's nice to keep getting guys from Florida. Oh no TOB is ignoring the state of NC! How dare he not go after Desmond Scott. State has too many Florida kids on the roster! Rabble, rabble, rabble.

6-0 180 with a 4.4 40.

Rivals has him as the #47 ranked RB nationally and a 3* prospect. That's higher than Rolandan Finch fwiw.

[Edited on June 26, 2008 at 10:55 PM. Reason : ^ ah you edited yours to basically say what I did. ]

6/26/2008 10:54:39 PM

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i like getting all of these solid 3* to build a foundation, but i would like to see a big player commit in the next week to get the ball going. hopefully we can follow the trend of last year and be a top 30 recruiting class. sooooooo Whose going to be out next recruit??????????????

6/26/2008 10:59:45 PM

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I think Brooks Michel and the QB we offer (Mershman?) will probably be the next commits.

6/26/2008 11:02:19 PM

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foundation, nothing. if we had a class of all 3* recruits, i'd be happy as a clam (strange idiom but work with me). the guys we are getting are all solid players, which is better than the "who is that?" recruit. if we did get a highly rated guy, (*cough* xavier *cough*), then that would be good too, but don't knock the 3* guys.

ok, so the RB is taken care of for this class. next up: QB and P.

6/26/2008 11:07:56 PM

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James Washington




Article on Washington
http://www.athletevault.com/articles/article00159.php
Highlight video
http://www.athletevault.com/Videos/JamesWashingtonAV.html

ESPN profile
http://tinyurl.com/52zzpo

Scouts Grade - 74

Washington is a slippery, in-line back who will need to add additional bulk to keep current production at the college level. Lacks some size now but he possesses a rangy, wiry frame that appears to still be growing. Not afraid to hit it up hard inside between the tackles but simply lacks the running strength and power to produce consistent yards after the contact at this time. Shows some decisiveness sharply cutting and knifing through the small creases; displays good body control, balance and lean as a runner. Flashes good lateral quickness and perimeter speed bouncing it outside and turning the corner. Reaches top-speed within a few steps allowing him to hit the seams just as they open and run with deceptive power as well. Does not shy away from contact despite his size and will lower the shoulder and fight for extra yardage. Spins, bounces and runs through initial arm tackles but yards after contact can be inconsistent and will be greatly reduced at the next level until he builds up his frame. Our main issue is his lack of great elusiveness for a smaller runner. Did not break off many long runs in the game films we viewed showing marginal vision and change-of-direction quickness in the openfield. Not overly sudden through the hole as well and struggles at times hitting the cutback seams and making defenders miss. With that said, he does possesses good speed, acceleration, toughness and determination as a runner. With added bulk he could develop into a productive 200-pound one-cut and go slashing type of runner at the college level with the lateral quickness and initial burst to still offer a team a perimeter threat as a runner. Soft hands out of the backfield and versatility to fit in both downhill and zone running schemes add to his upside.


It shows that he was considering UF, UGA, UNC, GT, and WF. No mention of us.

[Edited on June 26, 2008 at 11:13 PM. Reason : 3rd image]

6/26/2008 11:12:10 PM

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meatballs

[Edited on June 26, 2008 at 11:19 PM. Reason : f]

6/26/2008 11:18:58 PM

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his profile sounds alot like Eugene, except Eugene was an absolute nobody when he committed. Had everyone going "wtf" about a week before signing day.

has a body that can add some pounds, shows a great burst and good top speed. Not afraid to take it between the tackles

6/27/2008 12:10:02 AM

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^ The main reaction when Eugene committed was something along the lines of, "well, we could always use another 2nd string cornerback."

6/27/2008 7:16:19 AM

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Washington is supposed to be an early enroller.

6/27/2008 3:43:03 PM

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nice

6/27/2008 3:50:52 PM

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Looks like carolina got their punter. C.J. Feagles. hmmm.... very familiar last name.

6/27/2008 4:11:51 PM

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WOW, major curveball

OL Brooks Michel commits to Minnesota. I guess their new stadium was pretty tits.

[Edited on June 28, 2008 at 9:58 AM. Reason : .]

6/28/2008 9:57:51 AM

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6/28/2008 10:11:33 AM

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Sweet! We got our punter, Chris Ward. This guy was booming 50 yard punts in camp. Makes up for missing out on Michel.

6/28/2008 2:25:22 PM

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A punter makes up for missing an OL?

6/28/2008 3:30:25 PM

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with our recent o-line haul and our recent punter play.........yes

6/28/2008 3:47:17 PM

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Well punter truly was a greater need at this time. Besides we still have a shot at a lot of other good players, some better than Michel. I'd be even happier if we landed Bond and/or Nixon.

6/28/2008 3:48:07 PM

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I mostly meant we received bad news and good news on the same day and they more or less balanced each other out. That said, I would think a solid punter is more noticeable than a solid OT (of course, i really have no idea if either of these guys qualifies as 'solid'). Ward kicks it well and it looks like he plays goalie in soccer so he probably has pretty good hands too. The chips fall and while not getting Michel sucks, it's nothing to lose sleep over.

6/28/2008 4:38:21 PM

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I cant put into words how much I cant wait for football season

6/28/2008 4:40:41 PM

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Right now I am doing what TOB and staff are doing. Recruiting. Of course mine is on NCAA 2008. Any suggestions on strategies you've used in the past that have gotten you in good with 4* prospects? I'm taking Temple to the promised land. I like to build up low level teams to national powerhouses. I figured they'd be a good team to go with. They play in an NFL stadium so I can potentially turn it into a tough place to play, and recruits will like playing there. Also living in a big city like Philly is attractive to some recruits. When I took over they were a 1* program. After a 14-0 season they are now a 2* program. It was bullshit though. I went undefeated and still didn't get ranked in the Top 25 at seasons end. I was like #26. It furthered my thinking that we shouldn't have polls that matter until week 4. I won the MAC. I had the two best return men in college football. I had a WR who set the NCAA record for most receiving yards in a season, won best WR, and he also won the Heisman. I ended up winning Coach of the Year. All of my starters made either 1st or 2nd all-conference. One of my returnmen was a freshman and got on the Freshman All-American team as well as 2nd team All-American (the other returnman got on the 1st team All-American list). I didn't play a hard schedule, but it wasn't necessarily easy. I think I'm playing on All-American difficulty (that's the level just below Heisman right?). My OOC looked like this @ UConn, @ Navy, App State (112-0 , all of my other games were nowhere near as easy though and a few went into OT), and @ Army.

6/28/2008 10:18:56 PM

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that's what's so great about college football. you have to earn it over more than just one season.

6/28/2008 11:00:03 PM

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I think that sucks. If I have one of my best teams ever, it shouldn't matter how bad my program has historically been. I should be able to be in the national championship picture as well.

6/29/2008 12:00:26 AM

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First of all, you're taking the video game way too seriously. Sit back, relax, enjoy, and recruit well (maybe up the difficulty some if you're destroying everyone).

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"If I have one of my best teams ever, it shouldn't matter how bad my program has historically been. I should be able to be in the national championship picture as well."


Not to derail this thread but this is exactly what I think is wrong with the BCS. If a team has a perfect season but didn't start the season highly ranked and played in a non-BCS conference, then they have no chance of making the National Championship game. Granted, you could look at Hawaii this year and make the case, "See! They got killed by UGA! I knew they couldn't win the title." Does that mean that they shouldn't have had a chance to play for it? I say no. Hindsight is 20-20 and you can never predict how good a team will play against another, no matter the rankings or legacy. This is why we need to give more teams a chance to play for the national championship (i.e. a playoff). The alternative is to stay with the format we have now; take the current most hyped-up team and let them play Ohio State.

Breath in.... Breath out....

Sorry, just had to get that out of my system. I feel better now, I think I'll play some NCAA

6/29/2008 12:35:02 AM

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Oh I enjoy the game fine. All-American is good for me. Heisman is a little ridiculous with how the computer players make crazy ass plays and their WRs in the vicinity can grab a ball that was swatted away from the original receiver. Plus it's pretty damn hard to play with a team as bad as Temple. A few years ago I would just simulate recruiting.

[Edited on June 29, 2008 at 12:49 AM. Reason : ]

6/29/2008 12:48:32 AM

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am i the only one who wishes there was a setting where you could tell packpride only to email you when the recruit who just commited was something to be even remotely excited about. not a 1 star punter.......................................

6/29/2008 4:49:38 AM

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uh, you must not have watched many of our games last year

because I'm fucking ecstatic that we have a new punter

[Edited on June 29, 2008 at 10:19 AM. Reason : ]

6/29/2008 10:17:16 AM

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^no shit. What was that punt in the spring game? 6 yds total? we desperately need a good punter

[Edited on June 29, 2008 at 10:49 AM. Reason : sadf]

6/29/2008 10:49:22 AM

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Punters rarely get ranked. I'm excited about having a punter that can boom 50 yard punts. A good punter can really help you win games. Field position really can affect play calling. Chris Ward was an All-Region and All-County punter as a junior.

6/29/2008 11:08:09 AM

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punting hurt us a lot, but wasn't the guy we had also decorated coming out of college?

6/29/2008 11:20:03 AM

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Chris Ward was named the #1 punter in the nation in some magazine. Whether or not that magazine is legit, just to be mentioned means he's doing something right, and extremely well at that. If you can't get excited about a good punter, you probably don't understand the nuances of football.

6/29/2008 11:21:25 AM

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Pierson wasn't. He wasn't even on the commitment list for his class. We had Tyler Lewis from Albemarle, who was an Army All-American, come in 2004 for one redshirt year then left for some unknown reason.

6/29/2008 11:29:06 AM

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Pierson is a walk-on.

6/29/2008 12:28:30 PM

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I thought he earned a scholarship later though?

6/29/2008 12:33:46 PM

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Scout lists TE Mason Johnston as having an offer

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Jacksonville (FL) Bolles

Ht: 6-foot-4
Wt: 235 lbs
Class: 2009 (High School)

That's about it for information on both sites

6/29/2008 2:07:28 PM

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I was looking at Maryland's commits and they already have two QBs for this class. I would think this would be discouraging to Everett Proctor and make him look elsewhere or maybe settle for the safety position he is projected to play.

6/29/2008 2:25:53 PM

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Wasn't there a guy before Pierson who sucked too?

6/29/2008 4:15:09 PM

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Ward was the best punter at this camp.

http://www.rafterprotraining.com/91.html

He also averaged 62.5 yards on his kick-offs

6/29/2008 5:04:26 PM

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^^ yeah, that kid out of UNCW. nathan franklin. was like a top-10 HS punter nationally or something? got here, punted like shit, fumbled (and punted like shit) in the BC game, got in trouble off the field, got kicked off the team and lost his scholarship.

6/29/2008 5:57:47 PM

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What kind of trouble did he get in?

6/29/2008 6:26:54 PM

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http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/685779.html
http://www.gopack.com/ViewArticle.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=9200&ATCLID=1253351&SPID=3730&SPSID=41956

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"Three and Out: O'Brien announced on Monday that three players have left the NC State program. Cornerback Levin Neal, punter/kicker Nathan Franklin and receiver Marcus Bond have been released and can pursue scholarship offers from schools not in the ACC."


shit maybe he didn't get in trouble, i thought i remembered hearing he got is some sort of minor trouble. maybe i'm getting confused. either way he blew ass for a few games then left/got booted.

[Edited on June 29, 2008 at 9:55 PM. Reason : .]

6/29/2008 9:54:48 PM

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Pierson may have earned a scholarship later on when he established himself as our starting punter, but he came in as an undecorated walk-on. He's been decent, but nothing spectacular.

Tyler Lewis, the highly decorated kid (EA Sports All-American game, Army All-American game) from the 2004 recruiting class, never even got off a punt in college. He redshirted and then dropped out.
http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=8&c=1&nid=653218

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"^^ yeah, that kid out of UNCW. nathan franklin. was like a top-10 HS punter nationally or something? got here, punted like shit, fumbled (and punted like shit) in the BC game, got in trouble off the field, got kicked off the team and lost his scholarship."

Wilmington Hoggard HS, not UNCW.
He came in pretty decorated, redshirted a year, shanked a punt, then fumbled a snap. That put his ass on the bench, and he pretty much took his ball and went home. That's all that ever became public.
http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=8&c=1&nid=1815804

6/30/2008 11:44:16 AM

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yeah, having a great punter can help a lot more than people think... not to turn this into a Tennessee thread but I remember SEVERAL games (mostly low scoring, tight defensive games) where Dustin Colquitt (now with KC in the NFL) completely turned the game around with a booming punt that tipped field position in favor of UT.

6/30/2008 1:47:54 PM

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maybe we can use a punter this season instead of just turning it over like last season.

6/30/2008 1:56:45 PM

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"having a great punter can help a lot more than people think"


Yes. I saw some great punting at Wake games the last few years--it can save your ass when the offense is having trouble (and god knows State's offense has been troubled for four years).

The craziest thing was watching Plackemeier boom kicks with beautiful spirals on them...

6/30/2008 3:20:08 PM

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6/30/2008 3:25:45 PM

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