^ Whatever, dude. This race just turned upside down and you can't even see it.

8/29/2008 12:54:43 PM

its funny to see all the people who are quick to pull the race card now show how sexist they are...arent the Dems supposed to be the tolerant party?

8/29/2008 12:58:21 PM

its funny to see all the people who pulled the experience card now show how much they care about new blood

8/29/2008 1:29:17 PM

I honestly think the best choice McCain could have made would have been Lieberman. (Note: I hate Lieberman.) This would have shown he was trying to pull a (kinda) bipartisan ticket and was going for experienced statesmen at the same time. I think lieberman would have pissed off a lot of the base, but they would have still voted for him, I think it would draw more moderates in at the same time.

This will be interesting to see, but I don't think it is a good choice for him. I think his campaign is too invested in gimmicks and it will eventually fail/backfire.

8/29/2008 1:36:52 PM

Quote :

""She is now the most popular governor in America, with an approval rating in the 90s, and probably the most popular public official in any state.""

Quote :

"Her only experience is being mayor of a town with 8400 people and a governor (2 years) of a state with a population half the size of Raleigh. She certainly doesn't have the credentials to run the country if McCain kicks the bucket."

So basically McCain picked the Republican version of the inexperienced, popular celebrity he calls Obama? gg

8/29/2008 1:41:23 PM

She could turn out like Laura Roslin.

8/29/2008 1:49:49 PM

Quote :

"its funny to see all the people who are quick to pull the race card now show how sexist they are...arent the Dems supposed to be the tolerant party?"

Huh? No one's made a remotely sexist comment in this thread yet.

8/29/2008 1:51:18 PM

http://www.vpilf.com/

HAHAHAHAH.

8/29/2008 1:54:13 PM

Quote :

"JUNEAU -- Alaska legislators on Monday voted to spend up to $100,000 to investigate Gov. Sarah Palin's controversial firing of former state Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan. The decision came from the Legislative Council, a bipartisan panel of state senators and representatives. The committee itself will not conduct the probe. Rather, it will hire an independent investigator to explore whether Palin, her family or members of her administration pressured Monegan to fire an Alaska state trooper involved in a rough divorce from Palin's sister. Monegan contends he did feel such pressure, and the question for the investigator will be whether Monegan might have lost his job for failing to dismiss trooper Mike Wooten."

http://www.adn.com/monegan/story/478090.html

Nice pick, buddy.

8/29/2008 1:54:45 PM

oooh. thats dirty. Rove, Cheney and Scooter Libby must be proud.

8/29/2008 1:57:37 PM

Quote :

"She could turn out like Laura Roslin."

oh shit, you're right

someone kill McCain

[Edited on August 29, 2008 at 2:11 PM. Reason : we should get us some airlocks]

8/29/2008 2:10:00 PM

^^^ Do you think the McCain people didn't know about that or something? SOME INTERNET GUY SAYS AHA!!!1

8/29/2008 2:42:10 PM

^^ IT would have to be the Cylons (or Al Qaeda).

8/29/2008 2:45:20 PM

So first McCain marries a beauty queen after ditching his first wife. Now he has a beauty queen on the ticket for VP. He's not trying to get elected..... he's trying to get LAID!

8/29/2008 2:58:21 PM

Quote :

"Huh? No one's made a remotely sexist comment in this thread yet."

hahahahhahahaha

8/29/2008 2:59:26 PM

Quote :

"Seems like a play out of the country music liberal handbook. Get a pretty face in front of the cameras and the rednecks liberals will ooh and aah regardless of the substance of their work."

honestly though this seems like a hollow plow to get women votes

[Edited on August 29, 2008 at 3:05 PM. Reason : .]

8/29/2008 3:04:14 PM

Quote :

"^ Whatever, dude. This race just turned upside down and you can't even see it. "

care to wager on that? I see right through this facade....it reminds me of Daniel Evans throwing the long ball in desperation (except in the BC game. )

Hell, Andrea Mitchell reported today that they didn't even vet her( And according to it, McCain had met her just one time prior to yesterday!), it was impulse and it has Mittens and Pawlenty pissed and they feel used. Not to mention there's troves of quotes of her talking about how she doesnt care about the VP unless it impacts Alaska, and countless other goodies. I think this is a really short sighted decision and it doesn't suprise me because that's my problem with McCain - I dont think the guy has strong mental faculties to make strong and careful decisions AT ALL.

In the debates all of this will come gushing out, I'd put the farm on it.

[Edited on August 29, 2008 at 5:45 PM. Reason : -0]

8/29/2008 5:43:35 PM

Quote :

"This would have shown he was trying to pull a (kinda) bipartisan ticket and was going for experienced statesmen at the same time. I think lieberman would have pissed off a lot of the base, but they would have still voted for him, I think it would draw more moderates in at the same time. "

The problem is no one likes Lieberman on either side.

8/29/2008 6:26:34 PM

That my friends is the sad scent of desperation, although I give McCain a little credit for swinging for the fences when he's behind in the count.

8/29/2008 6:45:09 PM

Except McCain isn't behind?

Hell, if anything McCain is in a much better position right now than most everyone expected.

8/29/2008 6:46:41 PM

true. because not being dead in the water IS better than expected.

8/29/2008 7:21:03 PM

thats actually true...especially when anyone who doesnt fully support obama is labelled a racist!

8/29/2008 7:22:58 PM

^^^ Uhh... McCain's been behind, if only barely, since March.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

[Edited on August 29, 2008 at 7:23 PM. Reason : ]

8/29/2008 7:23:20 PM

Quote :

" Palin Pleased with Obama's Energy Plan Includes Alaska's Natural Gas Reserves Print Now Printer Friendly August 4, 2008, Fairbanks, Alaska - Governor Sarah Palin today responded to the energy plan put forward by the presumptive Democratic nominee for President, Illinois Senator Barack Obama. “I am pleased to see Senator Obama acknowledge the huge potential Alaska’s natural gas reserves represent in terms of clean energy and sound jobs,” Governor Palin said. “The steps taken by the Alaska State Legislature this past week demonstrate that we are ready, willing and able to supply the energy our nation needs.”"

http://www.gov.state.ak.us/news.php?id=1384

If you click on that link, you'll notice there's nothing there.

GOOGLE CACHE TO THE RESCUE!!!

Not that it's anything damning, just kinda funny that they scrubbed it from the web site.

8/29/2008 7:43:36 PM

that is pretty funny...they are quick

of course she has gotten a massive (multi billon $) surplus for alaska...by taxing oil companies...getting similar benefits from taxing natural gas companies to use the land would also definitely be beneficial to the state of alaska

8/29/2008 7:50:21 PM

8/29/2008 11:25:20 PM

I like Palin but she seems a bit harriet miers to me. McCain shouldve picked a badass vet like himself.

8/29/2008 11:28:36 PM

^^^^damn....

[Edited on August 29, 2008 at 11:30 PM. Reason : ..]

8/29/2008 11:29:43 PM

Of course she wants to see Alaska's pristine frontier looted by big oil.

Quote :

"The State of Alaska receives 85% of its annual revenue from oil taxes and royalties"

Petrobucks for Alaska!!!!

8/29/2008 11:42:08 PM

WRAL is usually shitty on politics, but this article has some interesting points:

http://www.wral.com/news/political/story/3456856/

Quote :

" WASHINGTON — Democrats are probably cobbling together the campaign ad right now: "John McCain's running mate is for big oil and against the environment," a somber voice intones as cute baby polar bears scamper across the screen. If McCain hoped to stop Democrats from getting much mileage out of the oil issue in this presidential election, he picked the wrong vice presidential candidate. His choice, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, comes from a state whose lifeblood is oil. Palin favors opening the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil and gas development, something McCain opposes. Her family even gets one of its paychecks from the oil industry: Palin's husband, Todd Palin, earned $46,790 last year as a facility operator for BP Alaska in Prudhoe Bay. Oil and natural gas and the jobs they create are part and parcel of life in Alaska: "If you are not for opening ANWR, in the state of Alaska, you couldn't get elected dogcatcher," says former Alaska state Rep. Ray Metcalfe, a Republican-turned-Democrat who supports Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama and anticipates Palin's critics will probably zero in on the oil drilling issue. But that live-off-the-land culture is largely foreign to voters in the lower 48, who are paying high gas prices without the benefit of the oil royalty dividend checks that Alaskans get each year. Eligible Alaskans received $1,654 each in 2007. Palin is so pro-energy that she actually praised Obama earlier this month for calling on the United States to work with the Canadian government to build an Alaska natural gas pipeline. "I am pleased to see Sen. Obama acknowledge the huge potential Alaska's natural gas reserves represent in terms of clean energy and sound jobs," Palin said in a press release put out by her office, though she wasn't entirely in favor of Obama's energy plan. She questioned his proposal to impose a windfall profits tax on oil companies to provide a taxpayer rebate, saying such taxes prevent oil companies from investing more in domestic production. Democrats could also accuse Palin of picking on polar bears. Palin opposes the Bush administration's decision to list polar bears as a threatened species under the Endangered Species Act. Alaska sued Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne earlier this month to try to overturn his decision. Palin argues there isn't enough evidence to support a listing, and she fears it will harm oil and gas development in prime polar bear habitat off Alaska's northern and northwestern coasts. Ethics could be another issue. Palin has fashioned herself a good-government maverick in the style of McCain, but Democrats could go after her on that, too. The Legislature is investigating her firing of the state public safety commissioner. A legislative oversight committee wants to know if the commissioner was dismissed because he refused to fire a trooper who went through a messy divorce from Palin's sister. The investigation is expected to wrap up around election time. Campaign contributions Palin collected earlier in her political career could also provide fodder for Democratic campaign ads, tying her to an Alaska Republican political scandal from which she has tried to distance herself. Palin raised at least $4,500 for her unsuccessful 2002 campaign for lieutenant governor from executives of VECO Corp., an oil services contractor at the heart of a massive influence-peddling investigation. Alaska Republican Sen. Ted Stevens is accused of accepting more than $250,000 in home renovations and gifts from VECO executives and failing to disclose them on his annual financial statements; the senator says he is innocent. Palin received $500 each from nine VECO executives in December 2001, including then-CEO Bill Allen, who last year pleaded guilty to federal conspiracy, bribery and tax charges and agreed to cooperate in the corruption investigation. "

[Edited on August 30, 2008 at 12:11 AM. Reason : /]

8/30/2008 12:10:30 AM

i dont like her stance on polar bears one bit!!!1

8/30/2008 12:41:06 AM

Quote :

"oil royalty dividend checks that Alaskans get each year. Eligible Alaskans received $1,654 each in 2007."

it was awesome getting paid to live in alaska, rather than actually paying taxes.

8/30/2008 1:21:36 AM

You'd have to pay me a lot more than $1654 a year to live in Alaska.

8/30/2008 2:05:16 PM

Palin is liked by more people than Biden. FYI.

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

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"Sarah Palin made a good first impression. She was unknown nationally before being introduced as the GOP Vice-Presidential pick but is now viewed favorably by 53% of voters nationwide. Her counterpart, Joe Biden, is viewed favorably by 48%. While Palin has made a good first impression, the more significant numbers will come a week from now after the nation has a chance to learn more about her."

http://tinyurl.com/2u693r

Palin's Possible Impact

Quote :

"The Palin pick may help John McCain close the gap in support with Barack Obama among white, female independents."

http://www.gallup.com/video/109939/Palins-Possible-Impact.aspx

Brash McCain pick of AK Gov. Palin neutralizes historic Obama speech, stunts the Dems' convention bounce

Quote :

"UTICA, New York - Republican John McCain's surprise announcement Friday of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate - some 16 hours after Democrat Barack Obama's historic speech accepting his party’s presidential nomination - has possibly stunted any Obama convention bump, the latest Zogby Interactive flash poll of the race shows. After the McCain 'Veep' announcement on Friday, Palin was almost immediately hailed as a strong conservative, and those voters have rallied to the GOP ticket, the survey shows. Republicans gather in St. Paul, Minnesota this week to officially nominate McCain and Palin as their presidential ticket. Overall, 52% said the selection of Palin as the GOP vice presidential nominee helps the Republican ticket, compared to 29% who said it hurt. Another 10% said it made no difference, while 10% were unsure. Among independent voters, 52% said it helps, while 26% said it would hurt. Among women, 48% said it would help, while 29% said it would hurt the GOP ticket. Among Republicans, the choice was a big hit - as 87% said it would help, and just 3% said it would hurt."

http://www.zogby.com/search/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1547

[Edited on August 30, 2008 at 8:39 PM. Reason : .]

8/30/2008 8:33:36 PM

^ I don't know why that's in 2 threads, but when in Rome...

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003844485

Quote :

"First Two National Polls Find Palin Gains LESS Support from Women The first national polls on John McCain's pick of Sarah Palin yesterday came out today from Rasmussen and Gallup -- and contrary to what the GOP probably hoped, she scored less well with women than men. "

teehee

8/30/2008 9:06:02 PM

because most women know when another woman is getting promoted due solely to her appearance rather than her experience.

and most women resent it.

8/30/2008 9:25:52 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-mitchell/2-top-alaska-newspapers-q_b_122625.html

Quote :

"A reporter for the Anchorage daily, Gregg Erickson, even did an online chat with the Washington Post, in which he revealed that Palin's approval rating in the state was not the much-touted 80%, but 65% and sinking ... ... His paper found a number of leading Republican officeholders in the state who mocked Palin's qualifications... "

8/30/2008 9:32:00 PM

does the huffington post have a "clever" nickname like faux news since its the liberal equivalent?

8/30/2008 9:35:29 PM

Huffington Post is no where near as bad as Fox News. Plus, Huffington doesn't have a cable news channel.

8/30/2008 9:37:50 PM

well you're right about them not having the cable news channel

8/30/2008 9:38:13 PM

^x4 You mean like how top national-level Democrats have accused Obama of not having enough experience?

Quote :

"'There has been no harsher critic of Barack Obama's lack of experience than Joe Biden,' McCain spokesman Ben Porritt said in a written statement, according to CNN. 'Biden has denounced Barack Obama's poor foreign policy judgment and has strongly argued in his own words what Americans are quickly realizing that Barack Obama is not ready to be president.' Biden frequently raised questions about Obama's lack of foreign policy experience during the primaries. 'I think he can be ready, but right now, I don't believe he is,' Biden said during one debate. 'The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.'"

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1593421/20080823/id_0.jhtml

Quote :

"'I think that I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. Sen. John McCain has a lifetime of experience that he'd bring to the White House. And Sen. Obama has a speech he gave in 2002.'"

--Hillary Clinton

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/03/hillary-clinton.html

For good measure:

Quote :

"Clinton, of course, strongly urged her supporters to support Obama last night but one McCain ad features a former Clinton delegate saying the Republican senator is 'the one with the experience and judgement.'"

http://blogs.indystar.com/politics/2008/08/clinton_supporters_for_mccain.html

[Edited on August 30, 2008 at 10:47 PM. Reason : .]

8/30/2008 10:39:19 PM

Quote :

"because most women know when another woman is getting promoted due solely to her appearance rather than her experience. and most women resent it."

replace her with obama, and you've got the same thing for us genius. obama is being smart by stfu about it altogether so far.

8/30/2008 10:47:13 PM

I can't wait until the Biden / Palin debate.

M-M-M-M-M-ONSTER KILL KILL KILL KILL

8/30/2008 10:49:18 PM

^^ And McCain has balanced the historic nature of Obama's campaign by making his campaign historic as well.

^ Don't be so sure. Palin seems to be quite comfortable hunting, fishing, and making her case to the people--and her youthful enthusiasm is infectious. She might just make Joe Biden look like a soft New England nancy-boy.

The fact that the left-wing loons are so frenzied about Palin tells me she was the right pick.

[Edited on August 30, 2008 at 10:55 PM. Reason : .]

8/30/2008 10:50:37 PM

There are only two scenarious that could happen:

A. Biden destroys, embarrasses, and emaciates Palin. The media celebrates it.

B. Biden destroys, embarrasses, and emaciates Palin. Palin cries. The media asks, "Was Joe Biden too hard on Palin? Our story on sexism in the Democratic party up next!"

[Edited on August 30, 2008 at 11:29 PM. Reason : ]

8/30/2008 11:28:50 PM

^ You forgot at least one scenario:

C. Palin destroys, embarrasses, and emaciates Biden. The media lies about it, declaring Biden the winner anyway.

8/30/2008 11:47:06 PM

^ You forgot another scenario

D. Lord Xenu sweeps down from Olympus Mons and appoints Palin the Kommisar of Gondwanaland. Biden is shunned to Corsica, where he will live his last years as a beggar with leprosy.

8/31/2008 12:09:02 AM

I'll go with
E. Like Gore, Biden is such an obnoxious blowhard, nobody remembers anything else from the debate.

[Edited on August 31, 2008 at 12:15 AM. Reason : =]

8/31/2008 12:13:33 AM

Quote :

"I'll go with E. Like Gore, Biden is such an obnoxious blowhard, nobody remembers anything else from the debate."

8/31/2008 12:21:36 AM

Quote :

"The fact that the left-wing loons are so frenzied about Palin tells me she was the right pick. "

I don't know how you define frenzy. The only danger is that people are grossly underestimating her and become too complacent, which COULD come back to bite them. But there's no "frenzy" about Palin.

Oh and since you are such a fan of quotes, here's some...

Quote :

"“I am pleased to see Senator Obama acknowledge the huge potential Alaska’s natural gas reserves represent in terms of clean energy and sound jobs...We have already enjoyed the support of Alaska Senator Ted Stevens, and it is gratifying to see Senator Obama get on board" - Palin “Something’s kind of changing here in Alaska, too, for being such a red state on the Presidential level. Obama’s doing just fine in polls up here, which is kind of wigging people out, because they’re saying, ‘This hasn’t happened for decades that in polls the D’ ”—the Democratic candidate—“ ‘is doing just fine.’ To me, that’s indicative, too. It’s the no-more-status-quo, it’s change.” - Palin "I’m a lifetime member of the N.R.A.—but this is Alaska, who isn’t?—and I am pro-life, absolutely.” She continued, “I guess that puts me in a box of being hard-core Republican.... the Democrats also preach individual freedoms and individual rights, capitalism, free market, let-it-do-its-thing-best, let people keep as much of their money that they earn as possible. And when it comes to, like, the Party machine, no one will accuse me of being partisan.” - Palin "

[Edited on August 31, 2008 at 1:09 AM. Reason : ]

8/31/2008 1:00:32 AM