cody's video is great from the last post on last page. clear footage of adebayor's run across the stadium. epic lol's

[Edited on September 15, 2009 at 11:55 PM. Reason : needs more amac comments]

9/15/2009 11:55:12 PM

There's such a double standard by fans and the media. When Neville does it, he's just showing "passion" but when Adebayor does it, it's a totally different thing and he needs a ban. Fucking ridiculous.

The more I read about it and the more I see it... the more I think it's awesome. Yeah, he had some motivational issues at Arsenal but he still scored over 40+ goals for them. He was booed a lot last year, he's been trashed in the media all season by any Arsenal fan, saying how they won't miss him and he's overrated... and he wanted to stick it to them.

It's just too bad he actually does deserve a lengthy ban for the stomp nonsense so I can't defend him too much.

9/16/2009 7:56:16 AM

he wasnt treated nearly as bad at any game as eboue was last year that one game where he gave up an own goal or had a red card or something. i forgot what he did but the fans were letting him have it worse than ive seen on anyone's own player...but eboue has stayed classy about it. adebayor, however, is a little bitch who cant stop crying.

[Edited on September 16, 2009 at 12:20 PM. Reason : f]

9/16/2009 12:18:30 PM

My question--what if he scored the goal on the opposite side of the pitch and celebrated the same way? He would have gotten the same shit for it. I think Neville summed it up pretty well in his quote about the FA wanting them to play like robots.

Yeah yeah yeah, riots blah blah blah. I understand that it might help provoke one, but the fact is almost all are started between supporters of opposing sides. Sucks for the steward who got hit, but chances are if Adebayor scored on the opposing sideline, the Aresnal fans would have been throwing shit at him anyway. Should we blame the players for that too? Maybe they should just cause all games to be 0-0 draws so that no one ever gets angry at a player's goal.

The stomp on van Persie was blatantly intentional. You can see Adebayor's head change focus towards van Persie's head after sliding through and then Adebayor's toe come up and his heel stomp on the ground.

Overall, I think Adebayor is a piece of shit, scumbag of a player. However, I still don't think he should be crucified for the celebration. He definitely should for the stomp though.

9/16/2009 1:33:42 PM

Hallelujah Peter Kenyon is gone. Methinks he is Citeh bound.

Maybe this time we can steal David Gill from ManU, he actually looks like he knows what he's doing.

9/16/2009 7:55:24 PM

HE DAMN NEAR STARTED A RIOT


WHAT THE FUCK ELSE DO YOU WANT


A DUDE GOT HIT IN THE HEAD WITH A FUCKING BOTTLE AND WENT TO THE HOSPITAL


HE DESERVES A BAN


IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING AN ANYTHING FAN


WHY WOULD I STICK UP FOR ARSELOL AS A UNITED FAN?

9/17/2009 1:03:30 AM

I'm not sure how that's "sticking up for Arsenal," seems like you're mostly hating on Adebayor

'Arry knows what I'm talking about...

Quote :

""I've got no time for people kicking anybody or being violent on the pitch and he was wrong to run the length of the field," Redknapp said. "But it's very difficult when you're getting abuse through the game like he was. It's not celebrating a goal that cause riots, it's idiots who want to start riots. What did Adebayor do, really? If I had been standing there and we had been giving him grief all game, I would probably say: 'Fair play.' I'm not saying it's right, what Adebayor did, but what nutters want to cause riots? Why do people need to shout abuse? Why can't they just watch a game of football? There must be something wrong with you if you want to do that." "

9/17/2009 7:43:21 AM

adebayor is an idiot, but his celebration is nothing. he got a yellow card, maybe he'll get a little fine, but thats all he should get. getting suspended for just celebrating is dumb, if you can't enjoy a goal you scored then why score. he didn't do anything, and the fans are the idiots in this case. if they are going to physically hurt someone for scoring a goal in a game, no matter how passionate you are about that game, then obviously they are in the wrong. adebayor deserves his ban for the stomp on van persie (who would've probably got a red card on that same tackle on adebayor if he wouldve connected with it) but they should just forget about the celebration because arsenal fans are just as much in the wrong.

9/17/2009 12:53:31 PM

no one wouldve gone nuts had he not ran 100 yards to the other end of the stadium. they wouldve just been upset. adebayor was the spark that started the fire. adebayor is the EPL's terrell owens. cries if nothing goes his way, somehow still cries when things do go his way. and no one likes him


harry in prime form:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZcDTl4bYAY

[Edited on September 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM. Reason : f]

9/17/2009 12:53:55 PM

adebayor starts his 3 match ban sunday for the face stomp

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=677049&sec=england&cc=3888

9/17/2009 2:09:05 PM

City is contesting the Adebayor celebration charge (improper conduct)

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=677390&sec=england&cc=5901

GAMES TODAY:
Burnley v Sunderland
Arsenal v Wigan
Bolton v Stoke City
Hull City v Birmingham
Aston Villa v Portsmouth
West Ham v Liverpool

9/19/2009 6:42:36 AM

Tubthumping was being played before kickoff at Turf Moor. Takes me back to the late 90's.

9/19/2009 7:48:26 AM

Awesome goal in the 86th minute gives Burnley a 3-1 lead. If they hold on, they will be the 1st promoted team to win it's first 3 home games in 17 years.

9/19/2009 9:31:52 AM

God damn I love Thomas Vermaelen.

9/19/2009 10:25:54 AM

God damn I love Thomas Vermaelen.

9/19/2009 11:09:44 AM

4-nil to the Arsenal

9/19/2009 11:57:40 AM

Vinegar Sausagelinks and Jozy Albacore seem like they're not clicking on all snack cylinders

9/19/2009 1:17:52 PM

Quote :

"God damn I love Thomas Vermaelen."

hell yeah, I'm not even an Arsenal fan and I like him... his second goal today was class.

9/20/2009 1:22:37 AM

Anybody have a link for the derby? I am dying here.

9/20/2009 9:40:07 AM

http://www.magedtv.net/ch1.html

2-1 to united

9/20/2009 9:42:39 AM

better stream...http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch1.html

9/20/2009 10:03:41 AM

Fletcher scores!

9/20/2009 10:13:44 AM

FLETCHER FLETCHER FLETCHER

if it werent for given this would be 5 or 6 to 2 right now



absolutely murdering city this half... in the 75th minute of this half, time of possession was 80%-20%...united of old

[Edited on September 20, 2009 at 10:16 AM. Reason : f]

9/20/2009 10:14:11 AM

anderson is becoming a beast finally. his passing and field awareness are incredible


and now united have dropped back for no reason and are giving me a heart attack

[Edited on September 20, 2009 at 10:20 AM. Reason : f]

9/20/2009 10:19:15 AM

fucking rio ferdinand....


city have no right to be tied. terrible tactics....why take the foot off the pedal?? city were in shambles in the back

[Edited on September 20, 2009 at 10:23 AM. Reason : f]

9/20/2009 10:22:35 AM

holy shit what a run by bellamy

9/20/2009 10:22:53 AM

OMFG MICHAEL OWEN UNITED HERO1!!!

9/20/2009 10:28:11 AM

OWEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

9/20/2009 10:28:44 AM

what a goddamn game that was....city had the better first half but not many shots by either...but holy shit city were lucky to be tied twice in that 2nd half. owen with the deserved winner in whatever minute that was, 95th? United mopped the floor with city in the 2nd half.

ben foster....learn to clear plz and maybe this game wouldnt have been so crazy in the first place

9/20/2009 10:30:36 AM

Stolen... Owen looked offsides to me, plus too much stoppage time. City was outplayed but jesus, that was egregious.

9/20/2009 10:33:05 AM

That... was awesome!

^ Wasn't close to offside... way too much stoppage time though.

[Edited on September 20, 2009 at 10:34 AM. Reason : x]

9/20/2009 10:34:03 AM

Quote :

"too much stoppage time"

Nope, common misconception. You get 30 seconds per goal, and 30 per substitution, and subs in stoppage time still count.


There were 3 United substitutions, 1 City sub, so that makes 2 minutes right there. There were 2 City goals (1 minute) plus 2 United goals (1 minute) for another 2 minutes, stoppage time at 4 minutes total, without factoring in the stoppage time from United's 10 second half corners, plus throw-ins...


the ability to add to stoppage time doesn't stop once you've gone over 90 minutes.

9/20/2009 10:43:35 AM

stoppage time if you actually add it up with all the time wasted and goals scored was prob spot on. owen was in perfect position. not even close to being offsides and what a sublime finish.

Here is my tww emotion for the 2nd half:







city wont have what it takes to go all the way this year...outside of their strikers, they are thin in every other position on the field...they will get injuries. its gonna happen. hughes is lucky as hell berbatov has the curse of diego forlan on him or else he wouldve looked stupid for not doing anything tactically different while united were killing them in that 20-30 min period. even the players on the field were motioning/yelling at him.

[Edited on September 20, 2009 at 10:47 AM. Reason : f]

9/20/2009 10:43:36 AM

I would just like to say that Ben Foster needs to be shot.

9/20/2009 10:45:34 AM

^you right.

i want van der sar back so badly. i carl faced for a good 2 minutes after what foster tried to do on tevez....just kick the shit into row z. foster has no composure at all when it comes to clearances...he must be still too young or something

[Edited on September 20, 2009 at 10:52 AM. Reason : espn needs to get this shit on espn classic, lol. or have FSC run it 5 or 6 times until new games]

oh and lol at rooney's reverse slide celebration on that first goal

[Edited on September 20, 2009 at 10:59 AM. Reason : f]

9/20/2009 10:48:24 AM

of course i did not see the game.

9/20/2009 11:07:48 AM

lol at the Chelsea/Tottenham soccernet commentary...

Quote :

"I hate him as much as the next man but that was a brilliant break from Cole, he tiptoed up on Corluka and made a burst past him just as the ball came in. Decent finish too."

Quote :

"Keane puts it out as Drogba does one of his dying swan routines. An innocuous challenge caused him to fall over and now he's giving it the big one on the deck."

9/20/2009 11:40:41 AM

^Haha I read that too. Good stuff.

9/20/2009 8:17:30 PM

we can talk about injuries all day in that chelsea/tottenham game, but is there any surprise there was 8 minutes of stoppage time with drogba falling over every 10 seconds (well i gues the answer is yes, since thats every game).

9/20/2009 11:46:08 PM

haha yeah i think i made a comment about 8 mins of stoppage time again in a chelsea game with jadn earlier today. im hoping drogba hurt his calf long enough so that i dont have to see him fall over and act hurt for at least a few weeks.

Enchilada is saying its a cramp last i read, and if thats so, drogba is a pussy for the way he had to go off the field with a cramp. it looked much worse than that.



also, for the manchester derby, im pretty sure fletcher got man of the match, but honestly he didnt do too much in the middle for them. he got man of the match for the 2 headers. imo, the man of the match shouldve gone to giggs. the welsh wizard was unstoppable on the left wing today. im pretty sure he got a hat trick of assists and had a stellar half volley denied by given. that play where he nutmegged richards maybe then cut inside then back outside on ireland i believe to get the cross of for berbatov's header to be saved (great save too) was classic giggs of 10 years ago. he looks like he has another year, maybe 2 in him still to be able to play a whole game at the level the 2nd half was. giggs just wont let his age catch up to him and im not gonna complain about it :p


last thing. im pretty sure this game will be on Fan Zone on FSC. i have no idea when that comes on anymore since i havent seen an episode this season but it should make for a great show. prob sometime mon-wed night around 8 is when it will come on. im gonna be lookin out for it. also get a chance to actually see most of the game on tv rather than stupid ass internet at 9am

[Edited on September 21, 2009 at 1:51 AM. Reason : 11]

9/21/2009 1:45:16 AM

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=678228&sec=england&cc=5901

city crumble begins?...


if nothing comes from this, its still typical bellamy and im surprised it took him this long to get himself involved in something

9/21/2009 5:07:59 AM

I don't have much sympathy for idiot fans that run on to the field in any sport, especially ones trying to start shit with players.

Not really a defense of Bellamy, but I'm just saying. It's different if Bellamy went to the stands to seek this guy out.

9/21/2009 7:40:18 AM

Quote :

"Nope, common misconception. You get 30 seconds per goal, and 30 per substitution, and subs in stoppage time still count. "

The whole '30 seconds per' isn't written in stone anywhere. It's completely up to the referee to add how however much he wants to for each instance. I do think the stoppage time was appropriate though (based on what reports I've read and the goals, subs, etc). Just curious for those who watched the entire thing, how much longer did they play after the Owen goal?

9/21/2009 9:59:18 AM

maybe 30 seconds

9/21/2009 10:14:19 AM

The Premier League review show said the 4th official showed 4 minutes of added time, but the tying goal from City was right before the full 90 minutes and that the ref deemed the celebration excessive and added 55 seconds to the stoppage time along with the 30 sec for the substitution.

9/21/2009 10:16:20 AM

didn't the Bellamy fan incident come after the goal? Surely that would have delayed the restart more than 30 seconds, no?


I'm not trying to argue about the validity of the added time before the goal. I just think it's funny that we're counting seconds of celebrations to determine the exact amount of time that should be allowed. When has added time ever been so precise? Which is one argument I've had to listen to from non-soccer fans for quite a while, and even though there isn't a real excuse except that's just how it's done, I've never really been against having the referee keep the time on the field.

[Edited on September 21, 2009 at 10:25 AM. Reason : .]

9/21/2009 10:18:08 AM

The Bellamy incident came after the game, I think.



and I was going to give him benefit of the doubt on it, but if you watch the video, the guy is subdued by both arms by at least 3 stewards by the time Bellamy walks 5 yards to punch him in the face.


Sure the fan doesn't belong on the field, and if he hadn't been wrangled by the stewards, then I would've applauded any player who took him down themselves. But he was caught, in no way a danger to the players anymore, and in the process of being hauled off. That makes Bellamy's hit assault, and I hope they throw the book at him.



Besides, punching a dude who can't hit you back is a fucking bitch move.

9/21/2009 7:05:15 PM

yeah hes gonna get 3 games most likely. big ego's at city will not be contained by a manager who doesnt know how

^^people seem to be making a deal out of it cause mark hughes is making a big deal out of it. i had no problem with it and didnt question the amount of time at all. the thought of "we got lucky since that lasted forever" never came across my mind when owen scored, and there have been times when ive seen games at OT and im like wow that was fortunate. and he has to add time for the owen goal which he does which is why the whistle doesnt come about til another 30 seconds after the restart...its why its called extra time.

[Edited on September 21, 2009 at 8:27 PM. Reason : f]

9/21/2009 8:24:42 PM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/sep/22/manchester-united-goals-stoppage-time

9/21/2009 8:29:08 PM

Quote :

"i had no problem with it and didnt question the amount of time at all. "

lol well duh, why would you have had a problem with it?


Let's be honest though, let's say this happened at Eastlands with the exact same circumstances except it was Citeh who got the winner... you know damn well you'd at least mention the extra time added as being a bit suspicious. And same for any Liverpool fan if it happened at OT to them, or at Anfield to United, etc. Especially right after the game after you've seen the opposing coach laughing it up with the 4th official on the sideline afterwards... I would have been pissed about it in the moment too if I were Hughes. That doesn't mean I think a formal FA investigation should take place or anything, but you know that you'd be just a little bit irked.

Quote :

"I was going to give him benefit of the doubt on it, but if you watch the video, the guy is subdued by both arms by at least 3 stewards by the time Bellamy walks 5 yards to punch him in the face."

True true, I finally saw the video. Well, I saw what Bellamy did, I'm not sure if something happened before they actually got a hold of him. Even if something did happen before, it still doesn't excuse the fact he walked over to the dude and pushed him in the face. It's a shame Bellamy is such a freak because he's a damn good soccer player when he's on.

9/21/2009 10:24:57 PM