moron All American 34141 Posts user info edit post |
mccain should have won in 2000. It's sad what he's become now though. 4/5/2010 10:51:38 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
I'm going to toss in the the whole UNCONSTITUTIONAL CENSUS thing is here. 4/6/2010 8:38:26 AM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/06/charles-alan-wilson-charg_n_527328.html
Quote : | "SEATTLE — A Washington state man has been charged with threatening to kill Democratic Sen. Patty Murray over her support for health care reform.
Court documents say federal agents arrested Charles Alan Wilson in Yakima on Tuesday.
An FBI agent's probable cause statement says Murray's office in Seattle reported the threats, which were left on voice mail from a blocked telephone number. Agents say they traced the calls to Wilson's home in Selah, near Yakima.
Murray's office told the FBI it had been receiving harassing messages from the caller for months, but they became more threatening as Congress was voting on health care legislation.
Excerpts of the expletive-laced messages transcribed in court documents show the caller saying he wanted to kill the senator, and it would just take one piece of lead." |
Let me guess: Isolated incident, has nothing to do with GOP inflammatory rhetoric, and we can't blame anyone, right?4/6/2010 3:31:41 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/35152.html
Quote : | "Federal authorities have arrested a Philadelphia man and charged him with threatening to kill House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) and his family.
In a video posted on YouTube, Leboon said Cantor was a "liar, you're a Lucifer, you're a pig, a greedy [expletive] pig." He also seemed to refer to a bullet found in Cantor’s office last week and said it will be placed in his head. Richmond Police had originally discounted the bullet as a stray. It is unclear whether the FBI will expand the investigation into the Richmond bullet." |
Let me guess: Isolated incident, has nothing to do with liberal inflammatory rhetoric, and we can't blame anyone, right?4/6/2010 3:51:35 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
actually, yeah
Quote : | "Leboon’s video also makes reference to Cantor’s Judaism – Cantor last week said he has received anti-Semitic threats in the past." |
Quote : | "“Remember Eric at our judgment time, the final Yom Kippur has been given,” according to a transcript of the video in the affidavit. “…You’re an abomination, you receive my bullets in your office, remember they will be placed in your heads. You and your children are Lucifer’s abomination.”" |
Quote : | "He told the FBI, according to the affidavit, that he is the “son of the god of Enoch” and further said Cantor is “pure evil” and will be dead." |
sounds to me like he's some crazy religious nutter4/6/2010 10:32:39 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Nuclear Posture Review unnecessarily takes sovereign U.S. options off the table when responding to various types of chemical or biological attacks. Americans intuitively understand the flaw in this approach. Special agent Jack Bauer of "24" had to thwart terrorists attempting to steal nerve gas. If this had actually occurred, the President should not tie one hand behind the nation's back when evaluating the appropriate response to defend American citizens." |
- Mackenzie Eaglen (Defense Analyst, The Heritage Foundation) http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,213244,00.html What Mackenzie Eaglen doesn't know is that, if anything were to go wrong, Desmond Hume is the president's constant.4/8/2010 7:55:14 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
http://videos.mediaite.com/video/Michele-Bachmann-On-Fox-News-Su
At about the 4:30 mark, when asked how she would handle the 30 million Americans or more that are currently uninsured, Michele Bachmann responded:
Quote : | "Fully deduct all of their health care expenses, whether it's premiums, co-pays, high deductibles. Whether it is vision, dental, chiropractor, whatever it is, fully deduct that on your income tax return." |
Unless I'm mistaking the tax code, this plan sounds an awful lot like socialized health care.
Did she misspeak? or am I simply misunderstanding her?4/13/2010 3:24:31 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
How so? You are using your OWN money, allowing you to keep and spend your OWN MONEY is not socialism, despite what the Dems think. Thinking that your money first belongs to the state, IS. 4/13/2010 3:47:54 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
Would you be any less opposed to this if we were giving everyone $600 who decided to have healthcare, and not giving any money to those who didn't? 4/13/2010 3:56:56 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
what am I opposed to?
And actually, the price of your insurance would probably be more than 600 a year, so I would be fine with people keeping some of thier tax money to buy thier own insurance. Or actually having to do something responsible in order to get something from washington would be a welcomed change. 4/13/2010 4:08:06 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
So I'm misunderstanding her statement, I think. I was thinking that she was suggesting that we just deduct the entire expense and get fully compensated by the government.
I was like, "wut?" 4/13/2010 4:37:35 PM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
shes talking about deducting the ammount from your taxable income. Its a good idea for the short term and could replace HSAs which essentially do the same thing, but in a kind of roundabout way. 4/13/2010 5:11:31 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
I, for one, am looking forward to the GOP's filibuster of the bill outlawing the creation of investment instruments designed to fail. Here's hoping they re-legalize the pigeon drop too! 4/19/2010 11:40:10 PM |
TheDarkSaint Starting Lineup 53 Posts user info edit post |
Found this on my daily browsing of Wonkette:
http://www.harleydbrownforcongress.org/index.html
[Edited on April 20, 2010 at 3:58 PM. Reason : ..] 4/20/2010 3:57:37 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
^He appears to have stopped being a real man and started being a potato a long time ago. 4/20/2010 4:06:32 PM |
m52ncsu Suspended 1606 Posts user info edit post |
Looks like Hoggish Greedly, which is appropriate 4/20/2010 5:44:48 PM |
EarthDogg All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
^^^
Quote : | " It is my passionate, intense and burning desire to attack and annihilate that monstrous national debt, the biggest threat by far to our dearly beloved children and grandchildren. We owe it to them to pass along a DEBT-FREE USA. I would be absolutely delighted to lead the charge against this enemy of us all. " |
Oh no he is against our country's massive debt. What a nut-job!4/20/2010 9:18:32 PM |
Kris All American 36908 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, like our president: That’s why today I’m pledging to cut the deficit we inherited by half by the end of my first term in office. 4/20/2010 9:36:05 PM |
EarthDogg All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
^ Seems like Obama is adding more to the deficit, not cutting it. Maybe the pledge doesn't go into effect unless he gets re-elected. 4/20/2010 9:39:06 PM |
Kris All American 36908 Posts user info edit post |
hold him responsible when he fails if you want, but don't try to act like he didn't make the promise just because you don't like it 4/20/2010 9:41:09 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Arizona Legislators Vote to Check Obama's Citizenship
The Arizona House voted for a provision that would require President Obama to show his birth certificate if he hopes to be on the state's ballot when he runs for re-election, KPHO-TV reports.
It would require U.S. presidential candidates who want to appear on the ballot in Arizona to submit documents proving they meet the constitutional requirements to be president." |
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/04/21/arizona_legislators_vote_to_check_obamas_citizenship.html4/21/2010 8:15:55 AM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
Sheesh. They're really cranking them out today.
Quote : | ""Let's change the system and talk about what the possibilities are. I'm telling you that this works. You know, before we all started having health care, in the olden days, our grandparents, they would bring a chicken to the doctor. They would say I'll paint your house. [That's] what people would do to get health care with their doctors. Doctors are very sympathetic people. I'm not backing down from that system."" |
-- Sue Lowden (R), the front-running challenger to Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV), in an interview on Nevada Newsmakers suggesting that health care could be paid for using the barter system.4/21/2010 10:09:52 AM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
orrr using hyperbole to demonstrate that the health care system is way too complicated?
YOU DECIDE 4/21/2010 10:21:12 AM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
I will never understand why people insist that something is bad if it's complex.
Do you have any fucking idea how complex a fucking iPhone is? Yet, if we follow the same policy of healthcare, if the instructions for assembly and operation of an iPhone can't fit on ten pages, then it's a wasteful piece of shit. 4/21/2010 10:26:37 AM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
i think its more about the inefficiencies that derive from the complication. 4/21/2010 10:46:54 AM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
To which I would fire back "What on earth do you personally know about the inefficiences in a two thousand page bill drafted by experts from various fields on government, law, economics, and healthcare?" Are you some sort of genius? 4/21/2010 10:51:38 AM |
Lumex All American 3666 Posts user info edit post |
There is something to be said against a bill that is so long and complex that it cannot be wholly understood and measured by a single representative. 4/21/2010 10:58:44 AM |
EarthDogg All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "..drafted by experts" |
That's a big assumption there. I would ask who are these "experts"? What is their stake in passing these laws? I agree that a lot of laws are really complex. So why do liberal politicians want to push them through so quickly without the time needed to let some other experts look at it carefully?
I would suggest the reason is that democrats know that their agenda may be shut down after November..so they're shoving through as much as they can now.4/21/2010 11:05:27 AM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
an iphone isn't complicated at all. For any given input there is 1 output. In the healthcare system for any given input there is an infinite possibility of output. In addition, where an iphone has very limited input possibilities, healthcare has an infinite number of inputs depending on person, location, time of day, weather, doctor, insurance, etc..etc..etc...
Alot can be done to simplify the healthcare system, starting with something as simple as standardizing codes for all procedures. From there you can eliminate tons of insurance beuracracy and start to home in on comparative costs for the same procedure from doc to doc and hospital to hospital. 4/21/2010 11:08:17 AM |
Kris All American 36908 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Arizona Legislators Vote to Check Obama's Citizenship" |
they're really butthurt arent they
Quote : | "I would ask who are these "experts"?" |
I'm sure you can find that information with a simple search.
Quote : | "So why do liberal politicians want to push them through so quickly without the time needed to let some other experts look at it carefully?" |
They spent plenty of time looking at it, all the gop wanted to do was bawwww about it.
Quote : | "For any given input there is 1 output. In the healthcare system for any given input there is an infinite possibility of output." |
No, i push the music button and it closes other apps as well as starting the music app. The metaphor works fine. Everything that is complicated is not necessarily bad.4/21/2010 6:07:22 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/anderson-cooper-asks-birther-arizona-rep-c
Fucking stunning. 4/22/2010 3:29:51 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Seems like a good law to remove all doubt. Libs all in a pisser over it makes me smile.
Of course this is about future elections, but its really racists and about Obama. Gotta love coop.
[Edited on April 22, 2010 at 3:44 PM. Reason : .] 4/22/2010 3:35:45 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
It's really just about outing that kenyan darkie. 4/22/2010 4:02:23 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
has to be right 4/22/2010 4:07:38 PM |
Lumex All American 3666 Posts user info edit post |
I, too, am glad to see state legislatures trolling the federal judiciary. Anarchy here we come. 4/22/2010 4:10:54 PM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "No, i push the music button and it closes other apps as well as starting the music app. The metaphor works fine. Everything that is complicated is not necessarily bad." |
you push the music button and it sends events to close other apps and do other tasks. There is no randomness or chance in an iphone. There is a strict, definable limit to all interactions. Theres nothing like that in the real world, let alone healthcare.4/22/2010 4:12:17 PM |
Kris All American 36908 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "There is no randomness or chance in an iphone. There is a strict, definable limit to all interactions. Theres nothing like that in the real world, let alone healthcare." |
He wasn't talking about randomness, it was complexity, you stated an iphone wasn't complex, which is stupid.4/22/2010 5:56:09 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
From the Medina, OH Republican party newsletter:
http://emilyslist.org/images/GOP_sutton.pdf 4/23/2010 10:49:14 AM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_04/023429.php
Quote : | "WHAT'S WITH THE GOP AND MICROCHIPS?.... This report, from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution's Jim Galloway, is disconcerting on its face, but it also raises questions about the larger connection between conservatives and their microchip-related concerns.
Last week, the Georgia House Judiciary Committee held a hearing to consider a Republican proposal to "prohibit the involuntary implantation of microchips in human beings." I'm not entirely sure what the point is -- it's not as if there's been an outbreak of involuntary microchip implantation -- but GOP officials nationwide have a tendency to worry about imaginary threats, so I suppose this shouldn't be too surprising.
The legislative hearing led to remarks from a local woman, who claimed to have personal experience on the matter.
"I'm also one of the people in Georgia who has a microchip," the woman said. Slowly, she began to lead the assembled lawmakers down a path they didn't want to take. [...]
She spoke of the "right to work without being tortured by co-workers who are activating these microchips by using their cell phones and other electronic devices."
She continued. "Microchips are like little beepers. Just imagine, if you will, having a beeper in your rectum or genital area, the most sensitive area of your body. And your beeper numbers displayed on billboards throughout the city. All done without your permission," she said.
It was not funny, and no one laughed.
When a lawmaker asked her to clarify as to whether she's been implanted with a microchip, the woman said that she did, and that it was involuntarily put in her body by the U.S. Department of Defense.
The state lawmakers politely thanked the woman for her time, and proceeded to vote in support of the proposal." |
4/23/2010 10:18:30 PM |
EarthDogg All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
^ Involuntary microchipping may sound absurd now. But you know, back in 1913...Americans were told by politicians that the newly enacted income tax would never affect anyone but the 1% super-rich. 4/23/2010 11:03:46 PM |
pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
Sue Lowden's plan to pay for health care: Bring a chicken to Uploaded by MrTemperatureable. - News videos from around the world.
4/23/2010 11:31:27 PM |
EarthDogg All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
Bartering might be all that's left after these politicians destroy our currency with trillions of deficit spending. 4/24/2010 12:59:12 AM |
m52ncsu Suspended 1606 Posts user info edit post |
so EarthDogg is scared about the imaginary microchip threat
big surprise 4/24/2010 1:03:21 AM |
Kris All American 36908 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Bartering might be all that's left after these politicians destroy our currency with trillions of deficit spending." |
What would be an acceptable level? If we were able to get the debt to GDP ratio lower than that of Switzerland, Canada, UK, Germany, France, Israel and Japan, would you shut up about our debt?4/24/2010 10:42:32 AM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
I dont see where that lady said anything wrong. Its true.
Im sure the huff was all over this 20 second clip though. 4/24/2010 10:56:50 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
I can't tell if sue lowden is a milf 4/24/2010 11:08:18 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I dont see where that lady said anything wrong. Its true." |
I need an eye exam before too long. You'll accept a chicken?
Quote : | "Im sure the huff was all over this 20 second clip though." |
I might misunderstand your meaning here, but she and her campaign staff have reiterated this point two times since then. Even if it was an off-the-cuff remark, she is running with it now.]4/24/2010 11:23:18 AM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
I believe her point, and maybe Im missing it, is that doctors tend to be very generous people.
We have seen people at no cost bc they truely didnt have anything and needed help. But Ill send someone to collections in a heartbeat when they just want to not pay for the services they got. Esp with the pack of cigs in the pocket and a blackberry.
(fyi, if you expect people to feel sorry for you and give you a break, leave all your expensive toys at home) 4/24/2010 2:44:58 PM |
moron All American 34141 Posts user info edit post |
Bills to repeal health-care reform are failing to gain GOP traction
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/04/less_than_half_of_gop_members.html
eh he 4/29/2010 11:56:47 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I believe her point, and maybe Im missing it, is that doctors tend to be very generous people." |
Her point was that everyone should go out and haggle for their healthcare like used cars.4/30/2010 12:08:14 AM |