^^he clearly didn't watch.

Hence my rant yesterday.

and i just wanted to repeat this:

Quote :

"Most of the people that actually watched the whole thing are like "meh, we're young and getting better". The numbnuts that just got up this morning and looked at the boxscore are all "OMG Lowe sucks! Why did a gimpy Javi only play 20 minutes?!"""

and yes my family does hate me.

12/25/2009 12:08:30 PM

i was incredibly uplifted after watching that game and the comeback we put together w/o Tracy.

best loss evar!

12/25/2009 12:38:02 PM

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"Lowe did nothing to lose that game for us last night. If anything, he's hiding our horrible weaknesses, all of which were evident in the first half. "

I disagree. Vandenburg starting over Howell is a mistake....Those were my main gripes. Painter and Vandenburg both played over Howell in the second half when he was having a good game. Also with 3 minutes to go and a tie game, fucking Mays is in the game and Javi was on the bench.

12/25/2009 1:03:31 PM

1. For the 2000th, Javi is nursing a sore leg. He was also having a pretty horrible game until the last 1:30 with 6 TO's (don't get my wrong, I wanted Javi to play more. But I think his time on the bench is leg-related).

2. Vandenberg made a huge impact on the game from a defensive standpoint. He also led the team with 11 rebounds. Starting him wasn't a mistake in the least IMO

3. Howell has been healthy for what, two weeks? His conditioning is pretty poor at this point and he had some downright pitiful turnovers early on.

[Edited on December 25, 2009 at 2:01 PM. Reason : ]

12/25/2009 1:59:39 PM

why you got to go and mess up a good argument with logic Mav?

12/25/2009 2:03:19 PM

^^^Howell had shown absolutely nothing up until the middle of the 2nd half that he deserved to play over Vandenberg, who was by far the better defender and rebounder on wednesday night.

In addition to what Mav said, Javi is not only injured, he was having his worst game of the season with 6 turnovers, and 3 of them (and involved in another) were in the 2 minutes before he was benched at the end of the game. As much as I would have prefered him to be in the game, Mays was playing solidly, shooting the ball well, and not turning it over. Thats a decision I think Lowe had to make.

Honestly, I am questioning some of Lowe's substitution patterns up to this point in the season, especially in the first half like in the wake game, but his hands were tied on wednesday between Smith being out, horner not getting off the plane, and Javi sleeping through the first 38 minutes.

12/25/2009 2:13:19 PM

LOL at pacbooZies post
Starting vandenburg wasn't a mistake...howell is coming
Off injury and is not in shape to play bulk minutes

12/25/2009 3:04:34 PM

a huge criticism of lowe in the past is that his teams played little to no defense

so now he's playing vandenberg and painter over howell for their defense, and he's an idiot

i must say, i think deshawn painter is absolutely worthless right now - and he's almost as lost on D as howell, but vandenberg brings something the other two don't. and before this game, none of the three had done anything on offense anyway

12/25/2009 3:50:06 PM

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"a huge criticism of lowe in the past is that his teams played little to no defense"

Defensive complaint is still very valid. We are 11th in the ACC in defensive efficiency via Pomeroy... not gonna cut it with our offense... Any metric you use on both sides of the ball pretty much we're looking at 10th, 11th or 12th in the ACC so far... not very good.

We're also one of the youngest teams in the ACC, so it's be expected... though the youth excuse doesn't really fly for the U of A game, since they are significantly younger top to bottom than us...

** Only significant thing I agree with in Boozie's post is Mays. A gimpy ass Javi is far better and he did play at the end. Mays just does nothing and that's the problem. He NEVER tries to make anything happen unless he forces up a shot at the end of the shot clock. He's basically an empty jersey.

[Edited on December 25, 2009 at 4:12 PM. Reason : x]

12/25/2009 4:10:43 PM

i think significantly younger might be a stretch. younger, yes. (1.03 yrs avg experience vs 1.39 yrs avg exp) both teams are very young.

[Edited on December 25, 2009 at 4:17 PM. Reason : ]

12/25/2009 4:17:40 PM

I forgot Horne played (just looked at the box score)... he had missed two weeks before the game. And with Smith out it was probably equal to maybe us being a younger.

12/25/2009 4:21:52 PM

judging from the eye test I think the defense has looked a little better this year than in the past. Still not acceptable but at least improving, which I thought wasnt likely to happen in the Lowe era barring an assistant coaching change

It's still not going to be good as long as Mays plays minutes, and Horner and Smith are our big time contributors (though Smith has been surprisingly passable this year imo).

12/25/2009 4:41:31 PM

julius mays boggles the mind. he comes in and looks absolutely awful, yet his line is 13 points, 4 assists and only 1 turnover (even though i would've sworn he had more than that).

12/25/2009 5:12:18 PM

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"LOL at pacbooZies post Starting vandenburg wasn't a mistake...howell is coming Off injury and is not in shape to play bulk minutes"

Howell is coming? He was playing great and yet we still played Painter over him and Painter has yet to do anything all season.

^God I never thought I would say this but Degand should be playing over Mays.....at least Degand has the speed to make something happen.

[Edited on December 26, 2009 at 12:10 PM. Reason : Howell has the talent to be good and the highest ceiling]

12/26/2009 12:07:26 PM

man, i don't want either of them to play.

i think i'd still rather have mays than degand, but they're both iffy.

12/26/2009 1:28:35 PM