and akron wasnt

9/20/2013 11:29:04 AM

Way too close to tell, which is why it should have been ruled a TD on the field and then tossed up to the replay officials. Where it would have been overturned anyway because NC State shit.

9/20/2013 11:30:25 AM

9/20/2013 11:33:22 AM

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"The judge trailing underwood made the call. He was 10 yards back and his view was partially blocked by the defender. The other officials down field and with clearer lines of sight signaled TD."

At 0:56 of that deadspin video has a great slow motion replay with view of both refs. One with clear line of sight and another that has two players between him and the ball.

http://deadspin.com/acc-officials-decide-n-c-state-doesnt-deserve-td-they-1352975562

[Edited on September 20, 2013 at 11:52 AM. Reason : for reference

[Edited on September 20, 2013 at 11:53 AM. Reason : .]

9/20/2013 11:51:47 AM

^^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTMA5og-Wwo&feature=youtu.be



[Edited on September 20, 2013 at 11:52 AM. Reason : ^]

9/20/2013 11:52:20 AM

IF, and its a big IF, we didn't have shitty ACC refs, we could win games like this.

also,

Quote :

"NC STATE: 9/19 Clemson (ESPN Thursday) L (in painful fashion)"

with that said, while we got jobbed, at least we played better than a team that almost lost to FCS competition

9/20/2013 12:20:41 PM

Damn Underwood has some speed

9/20/2013 12:25:16 PM

At least we can all rest assured that Clemson will get their shit pushed in against any "decent" team

9/20/2013 12:43:43 PM

Lol



[Edited on September 20, 2013 at 12:49 PM. Reason : D]

9/20/2013 12:49:04 PM

the Tigers are just better than the Mariners

9/20/2013 12:51:10 PM

It kind of infuriates me that people are saying the touchdown wouldn't have changed the outcome

I'm pretty sure a 14 point swing would have lead to a significantly different outcome

9/20/2013 12:56:30 PM

It obviously would have led to a different outcome, but that doesn't automatically equal a win by State

9/20/2013 1:01:10 PM

true, but it certainly could have

9/20/2013 1:04:31 PM

Yup. But you give me Clemson down 1 with that amount of time remaining and I'm picking them every time

9/20/2013 1:06:24 PM

shame we didn't get to see that possibility.

i don't blame the refs last night too much. i blame the college football replay rules.

9/20/2013 1:08:15 PM

yeah, annoying as hell

9/20/2013 1:26:52 PM

i blame the ref for making that call when he could have easily let it go to replay by not making it

9/20/2013 1:32:02 PM

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"Yup. But you give me Clemson down 1 with that amount of time remaining and I'm picking them every time "

I've said the same thing to all the Clemson fans I talked to today, but there are tons of other factors that go into what happened...

Momentum is probably the biggest factor. After they broke through at the end of the first half, we had shut them down in their first two drives. So instead of going up one point, giving our offense some confidence (which we definitely needed), pumping up our defense even more, sending Carter Finley into a frenzy, and starting to really make Clemson sweat.....the exact opposite happens. Our defense is given a short field against a rejuvenated Clemson offense, our offense is deflated, and the crowd has the life sucked out of them.

At first I was 100% sure that it didn't matter if Underwood had scored that touchdown...we were going to lose no matter what. But our defense was rolling, Tahj Boyd sucks at Carter Finley, and Dabo is a shitty coach. I definitely think we would have had a great shot at pulling that one out if the call had gone the other way.

Quote :

"2nd scoring drive: 23 plays, 84 yards. "

I wasn't the biggest TOB hater...but he definitely would have punted/kicked a field goal on one of those dozen or so 4th downs.

[Edited on September 20, 2013 at 1:36 PM. Reason : .]

9/20/2013 1:35:30 PM

^ I'm not new to this son! I took all that into account, I would STILL take Clemson every time with that much time left. If the Underwood play was made with like 2 minutes left I would probably take State

9/20/2013 1:37:58 PM

Why in the world would something like that not be worthy of a challenge? I understand the dead ball thing, but common sense should prevail. Fucking officials/refs/umpires fucking up sports pisses me off more than teams/players cheating.

[Edited on September 20, 2013 at 1:39 PM. Reason : ^ we get it, you think State sucks. Stop posting.]

9/20/2013 1:38:00 PM

9/20/2013 1:38:09 PM

^^ what? once again your inability to be objective. You can never ever ever grasp that there is a difference between what you THINK will happen vs. what you WANT to happen.

^ haha, poor kid

[Edited on September 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM. Reason : d]

9/20/2013 1:40:14 PM

thanks for coming out and supporting the team, Jaybee!

9/20/2013 1:46:33 PM

dont blame me... it's the same old dumbshits that cant understand basic logic and how that is different from fandom

9/20/2013 1:48:38 PM

Quote :

"I'm not new to this son! I took all that into account, I would STILL take Clemson every time with that much time left. If the Underwood play was made with like 2 minutes left I would probably take State"

This wasn't like Tennessee going up a touchdown on Oregon 3 minutes into the first quarter. We would have been beating and playing the #3 team in the country straight up for 2.5 quarters.

I wouldn't have put money on us to close it out...but I wouldn't put money on Clemson either.

9/20/2013 1:49:27 PM

lol, out of three options

1. clemson wins
2. state wins
3. end in a tie and neither team wins

I would take #1 most of the time, and I think most people would too. Not saying I wouldnt want #2 to happen, but its not what I would think would happen if you played the game an infinite amount of times and summed all the results. But thats the good thing about sports, you actually play the games out (see Giants over the Patriots).

[Edited on September 20, 2013 at 1:52 PM. Reason : d]

9/20/2013 1:51:26 PM

You unobjective motherfuckers don't understand that objectively watching games is objectively speaking the only truly objective way of being objective about objectivity. Go vols. I mean objectivity.

9/20/2013 1:51:56 PM

I swear you people need me to just have someone to bitch at... I have been totally behind State in this thread and you STILL drag it out to some weird anti-State thing

9/20/2013 1:53:22 PM

Quote :

"it's the same old dumbshits that cant understand basic logic and how that is different from fandom"

Hey big-guy, this is a wolfpack sports forum. The majority of the posters are fans (with the exceptions of guys like tower, skooiann, prawn star, you...)

9/20/2013 1:54:20 PM

I am a fan as well...


let me put it this way.

If I were to buy a lottery ticket, I would HOPE that I would win, I would CHEER for me to win, but that doesnt mean I THINK I would win.

9/20/2013 1:58:19 PM

Quote :

"if State loses to Clemson I will never post on here again"

Yes, I dug it up. Whatever. Now please leave this thread



[Edited on September 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM. Reason : or even better Sports Talk, or even better, TWW ]

9/20/2013 1:58:45 PM

they didnt lose, they were robbed... amirite?

9/20/2013 2:00:35 PM

Quote :

"If I were to buy a lottery ticket, I would HOPE that I would win, I would CHEER for me to win, but that doesnt mean I THINK I would win."

wtf are you talking about? go look in the prediction thread and see how many people THOUGHT we were going to win that game going into it.

however, if you were at the game you would have realized how important and how much of a difference that one play would have made at that point in the game.

9/20/2013 2:05:05 PM

I dont know what you are "what-ing"... its pretty straight forward. And the prediction thread proves my point, so no idea what you are arguing.

And I know how football games work. Are you a girl or just trolling?

9/20/2013 2:11:01 PM

go eat a snickers bar, you turn into a diva when you're hungry

9/20/2013 2:14:42 PM

you go do the same because YOU turn into a diva when YOU are hungry.

9/20/2013 2:17:24 PM

i know you are but what am i?

9/20/2013 2:19:03 PM

I'm rubber, and you're glue, so that pretty much makes you jizz.

You're jizz.

9/20/2013 2:20:49 PM

9/20/2013 2:29:17 PM

Quote :

" I can't think of ever seeing any drive in football going 20 or more plays before"

Looked it up. College football record is 26 by a Paul Johnson led Navy team.

9/20/2013 2:41:34 PM

I wonder if the fat kid rubbing his nipple will get the same press as the fat kid waving his shirt around his head like a helicopter last year got

9/20/2013 2:42:47 PM

NC State: Where fat white guys take off their shirts at football games.

That should probably be our new slogan. As for jibbles, yes Clemson probably still wins that game, but it sucks serious dick that we did not get to see that last 1.5 quarters play out like they should have. Imagine how awesome the atmosphere would have been if the game was within one possession at the end. Fucking bullshit refs and bullshit review rules.

9/20/2013 2:51:07 PM

Looks like he stepped out, am I missing something else here?

9/20/2013 2:53:12 PM

^yeah, just the 3 other angles that show him in bounds. But other than that you've got the whole thing covered.

9/20/2013 2:54:41 PM

^^i can't even tell if that's a foot

looks like all the kids were trying to rub the red paint off for some reason. looks itchy.

9/20/2013 2:58:26 PM

That really looks like the shadow of his foot is out. His shoes and soles are white. The other angles confirm he was in. The ref who made the out of bounds call should be suspended.

9/20/2013 2:58:58 PM

So we're gonna pretend this pretty obvious angle showing he was out doesn't exist then so we can play the What If game?

I'll pass on being a part of that

9/20/2013 2:59:26 PM

Removing my re glasses, the above pic looks doubtful if you've watched the video of the other angles. It does nota dd up

9/20/2013 3:01:06 PM

^^Then leave. Wouldn't want our discussion to pull you down, bud.

9/20/2013 3:07:07 PM

It really doesn't matter what angle we look at it... There were two guys on the field dressed in black and white stripes that were in position to make the call. One of them was 15 yards in front of the runner and the other was 15 yards behind the runner. One had a direct view of the runners feet and was looking at them while the other one was having to try to look around two players. The one with the direct view called it a touchdown while the one who's view was a blocked call it out of bounds. That is my issue with it.

Freeze the deadspin video at :59 and tell me which ref (if any) should have called him OOB

[Edited on September 20, 2013 at 3:21 PM. Reason : Oob]

9/20/2013 3:15:02 PM