11/28/2016 10:01:45 PM

But the argument is the average ignorant Trump support won't know the difference between a fundamentalist and just a regular person of Islam walking down the street. They'll see a burka and go straight to "git outta my cuntry," according to the likes of UJustWait.

11/28/2016 10:03:47 PM

anecdote: my half white half Chinese friend was told to "go back where she came from" on her corner in Brooklyn. We assumed he didn't mean "go back to Seattle" but who knows!

11/28/2016 10:22:52 PM

Wouldn't libs be not be down with the Muslim faith because it denounces gays?

11/28/2016 10:50:18 PM

That's not how it works, but coming from someone who uses the term "libs" I'm not surprised you're missing the point.

11/28/2016 10:52:05 PM

so how does it work?

11/28/2016 10:52:46 PM

we should take all the Christians and the Muslims and send them to Mars to start a new planet to be assholes on.

11/28/2016 10:57:32 PM

Wouldn't cons be totally down with the Muslim faith because it denounces gays?

11/28/2016 11:01:59 PM

Would cons be not be down with the Muslim faith because it denounces gays?

11/28/2016 11:48:14 PM

Quote :

"I'm all for stepping out of one's bubble"

LOL

11/28/2016 11:58:53 PM

So Trump retweets a 16 year old kid spreading misinformation:
https://twitter.com/JeffreyGoldberg/status/803433428888776705

Trump picks a guy for HHS that wants to dismantle medicare and medicaid-- but otherwise very swampy.

11/29/2016 1:14:27 AM

This is not okay.

11/29/2016 7:51:46 AM

Agreed

But I personally think there is a strong chance this is just to distract from the other stupid shit he said earlier in the week(about illegals voting). The press started hammering him on it, so he decided to start the news cycle over with (what I hope is) a throwaway comment he'll possibly never bring up again.

11/29/2016 9:12:17 AM

A throwaway comment? Doubtful. His supporters have already latched on to it, like they've latched on to their flags. Besides, this is just one more comment in a string of comments he's made over his political tenure regarding the restriction of free speech.

As much as I'd like to smack people I see stomping on or burning flags, it is certainly within their rights to do so.

Jesus this is terrible.

11/29/2016 9:17:34 AM

Man that guy just cant stop from staying stupid stuff on twitter can he?

11/29/2016 9:23:49 AM

There are five tenets to the first amendment: freedom of religion, speech, the press, assembly, and petition.

Donald doesn't seem to respect any of them.

11/29/2016 9:25:17 AM

Sure he does. Freedom of religion for Christians, freedom of speech for nationalists, freedom of the press for FoxNews and Breitbart, freedom of assembly for Trump supporters, freedom of petition for voter fraud against him.

11/29/2016 9:38:37 AM

It's ok though guys, at least we didn't elect someone who deleted some emails! Really dodged a bullet there!

11/29/2016 9:48:56 AM

Ya know I remember talking to some people a while back and saying how I thought that one day people will look back and realize that we were living during the peak of human civilization. I stand by that statement as it seems all downhill from here haha.

11/29/2016 10:24:01 AM

Whatever guys. If you read r/the_Donald daily like adultswim does, you'd know that Trump poses no real threat to the first amendment. Such overreactions

[Edited on November 29, 2016 at 10:35 AM. Reason : .]

11/29/2016 10:34:39 AM

That subreddit must have changed a lot. I do trust adultswim since he does seem to not let biases get in the way of fairness but last I read it was during the primaries and it was an utter cesspool.

*** The Trump tweet about the flag is EXACTLY what scares me the most about him. He is absolutely an authoritarian who can admit wrong. JCE, I don't want to trigger you, so am I allowed to mention his ridiculous authoritarian position on the Central Park Five?

11/29/2016 10:52:13 AM

Everyone on /the_donald is convinced he's playing 11th dimensional chess with the media and "libtards." Also that he's baiting Hillary into speaking out against it even though she has sponsored anti-flag burning legislation in the past. The fawning for trump over there is just too much. Where are the trolls? Or is there that much moderation on Reddit?

[Edited on November 29, 2016 at 11:04 AM. Reason : I avoid Reddit at all costs but will prob sign up and start trolling tonight.]

11/29/2016 11:03:17 AM

That sub will ban you for any word of dissent against Trump.

11/29/2016 11:08:49 AM

Not uh! It expressly forbids bigotry. It's a safe space to reasonably discuss brown terror suspects and how to stop the cucaracha invasion from Mexico. You should read it it daily and filter the comments to see how real alt-right folks think.

[Edited on November 29, 2016 at 11:15 AM. Reason : .]

11/29/2016 11:15:14 AM

Ujustwait again claiming I support Trump because I don't support calling the entire right wing bigots. Can you read dude? It's really a bummer such a close-minded person teaches university students.

Anyways here's the flag act HRC sponsored.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_Protection_Act_of_2005

1 year in prison and $100,000 fine

[Edited on November 29, 2016 at 11:22 AM. Reason : .]

11/29/2016 11:19:47 AM

and she was entirely in the wrong then

she's also not the president-elect

11/29/2016 11:21:54 AM

And that was a stupid proposal by Clinton, however Trump is suggesting that burning a flag is grounds for revoking one's citizenship. Not quite the same.

11/29/2016 11:22:34 AM

They're both pieces of shit

Trump is a moron, Hillary is a sociopath, both would/will screw us in their own special way.

11/29/2016 11:23:37 AM

Quote :

"Ujustwait again claiming I support Trump because I don't support calling the entire right wing bigots. Can you read dude? It's really a bummer such a close-minded person teaches university students."

Calm down. I'm just pointing out your faulty logic of using a fucking sub reddit dedicated to Donald Trump as an example of a place that's free from bigotry/racism. You keep saying I live in a bubble, which I have fully acknowledged, but you're dismissing the fact that I grew up in VA and NC and my entire family, aside from younger brother who lives in Idaho, are all Trump supporters. I'm not a stranger to these types of people- some of my own students voted for Trump. After the election, I didn't attack anyone or post rants on social media, or even on here. I just have way more of a problem with Trump himself than the people who were gullible enough to believe his ridiculous promises. I don't need to browse any political subreddit daily (reddit is a terrible place to discuss politics in general- it's fine for plenty of other things) to look for glimpses of rational thought.

You still seem very caught up in the 'bargaining' stage of this whole mess. It's going to be far worse than you imagined.

11/29/2016 11:35:31 AM

Quote :

"They're both pieces of shit Trump is a moron, Hillary is a sociopath, both would/will screw us in their own special way."

This is what I would call a false equivalence. Both have faults. Both are not equally dangerous.

And I can't believe Clinton actually sponsored a bill like that. What the fuck?

11/29/2016 11:44:08 AM

it was 2005

11/29/2016 11:45:23 AM

pandering for votes is a timeless endeavor.

[Edited on November 29, 2016 at 11:47 AM. Reason : .]

11/29/2016 11:47:19 AM

Quote :

"it was 2005"

Patriotism was all the rage back in those "mission accomplished" days. Another reason why she was such a terrible Democratic candidate for this election.

Anyway....regarding the flag. Can I poop on the flag? I would like to poop on the flag. Is that permissible? Perhaps use a tiny American flag to clean up after the dog on a walk? I don't actually own a dog, or a flag, for that matter. But I don't want to limit my options.

11/29/2016 1:15:00 PM

You can do whatever you want to with your own property

11/29/2016 1:30:17 PM

I'd rather the flag get literally shit on than the Constitution get metaphorically shit on.

11/29/2016 1:30:34 PM

Can I have my morning constitutional on a copy of the constitution?

11/29/2016 5:06:16 PM

Quote :

"....secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityiors"

^you're covered!



......

Looks like Bahrain is kissing the ring by booking out Trump's DC hotel for a night. Why are gulf Arab states ALWAYS the first in line to "give to charities" or arrange certain "business deals" with various heads of state? It's nearly a caricature, like they are literally Jafar from Aladdin.

11/29/2016 6:36:23 PM

Can someone explain how this ^ (or spending at any other Trump property) differs from donations to the Clinton Foundation?

11/29/2016 8:02:30 PM

I would argue it's far worse in terms of potential conflicts of interest. As has been debunked ad nauseum the Clinton's weren't using the foundation as a checking account. It actually was a charity foundation with a pretty good (great?) track record.

But optics.

[Edited on November 29, 2016 at 8:07 PM. Reason : But we should stop. JCE gets triggered when we talk about anything but fucking bimbos]

11/29/2016 8:06:48 PM

Trump loses 1000 jobs in Indiana :
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/29/carrier-says-it-has-deal-with-trump-to-keep-jobs-in-indiana.html

This is a good win for Trump, looks like the parent company gets 10% of their business from federal contracts and this was used to pressure them to only fire half the employees rather than all of them, in addition to other incentives and tax breaks.

I suspect this doesn't really translate well into a broad job-creating policy, but I suppose more public-private partnerships could be more effective than welfare to keep people out of poverty.

11/29/2016 9:45:46 PM

Quote :

"I suppose more public-private partnerships could be more effective than welfare to keep people out of poverty."

Nope.

11/29/2016 10:13:37 PM

Soooo now Goldman-Sachs is running our Treasury.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/29/news/economy/donald-trump-steven-mnuchin-treasury/index.html?iid=surge-stack-dom

11/29/2016 10:27:05 PM

^ that's antithetical to Trump's campaign promises, but big banking has been all up in the treasury for years now. That's more status-quo.

^^ i know, i'm just trying to be optimistic

It will be interesting to see what knobs they twist and if they basically just ended up throwing money at Carrier at the behest of their competitors/taxpayers, or did they make some arrangement that could be translated to all companies/corporations.

[Edited on November 29, 2016 at 11:03 PM. Reason : ]

11/29/2016 11:01:45 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/business/with-a-meeting-trump-renewed-a-british-wind-farm-fight.html?_r=0

Here's one I missed earlier in the week... when Trump met with Farange, he asked about the wind farms near a Trump property, regarding a court case he already lost.

11/29/2016 11:57:23 PM

https://twitter.com/johnjharwood/status/803955486429159424

So trump, unsurprisingly, is abandoning his campaign tax plan for a be tax plan that is essentially a bit more progressive than the current tax plan, assuming they keep the same top end brackets.

11/30/2016 11:06:33 AM

Quote :

"bummer such a close-minded person teaches university students"

That explains a lot.

Quote :

"more effective than welfare to keep people out of poverty."

Welfare doesn't keep people out of poverty.

12/1/2016 1:50:10 AM

Quote :

"The supplemental measure showed that non-cash public assistance, such as food stamps, housing vouchers and refundable tax credits, helped lift many Americans out of poverty. However, it also takes into account work-related costs such as transportation and child care, as well as medical and tax expenses, which all together drove more people into poverty. Social Security kept 26.6 million people out of poverty in 2015, while food stamps lifted 4.6 million people above the poverty line, the Economic Policy Institute noted."

http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/13/news/economy/median-income-census/

12/1/2016 1:53:47 AM

If poverty is determined by household earnings (under ~$11k), how are you going to argue non-cash assistance helps that?

Jobs and opportunities fix the problem, not policies that breed dependence and destroy family structure.

12/1/2016 1:57:34 AM

BOOOOTTTSSTTTRRRAAAAPPPPPSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!111!1!1!1!1!!1!1!1!1*




*except for the white working class, they are just victims of the system

12/1/2016 6:09:39 AM

Ok great. Let's raise the minimum wage so the jobs people have pay more giving them more money to spend thus creating more jobs.....

12/1/2016 7:13:37 AM