that’s an insult to Danny Woodhead

10/31/2017 5:06:41 PM

Offense has looked like shit save for 2 games this season so I don't mind shaking things up. Time will tell if this is a good trade, but in all honesty, Benjamin's best moments came during garbage time in his rookie season. He never really developed much and had trouble staying in shape/healthy.

[Edited on October 31, 2017 at 5:28 PM. Reason : .]

10/31/2017 5:09:23 PM

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"this is the exact opposite of a typical Hurney move"

the Panthers just traded Benjamin for two guys who will be out of the NFL in 3 years. Hurney can't draft for shit past the first round.

10/31/2017 5:23:08 PM

This team was 1 3rd round pick next year away from contending this year. Way to come through, Marty.

[Edited on October 31, 2017 at 5:31 PM. Reason : foo]

10/31/2017 5:31:33 PM

Mike Rucker, Kris Jenkins, Steve Smith, Will Witherspoon, Ricky Manning, Travelle Wharton, Evan Mathis, Ryan Kalil, Charles Johnson, Gary Barnidge, Geoff Schwartz, Captain Munnerlyn, Brandon Lafell, Greg Hardy, and Josh Norman were pretty decent non-1st round Hurney picks

Hurney's successor on the other hand couldn't draft 1st round picks

[Edited on October 31, 2017 at 5:35 PM. Reason : .]

10/31/2017 5:33:49 PM

Steve Smith is a cancer

10/31/2017 5:58:03 PM

I actually like this. Fuck Benjamin. He's slow and looks like a WNBA player.

Hopefully that's a wakeup call for Cam... probably not.

10/31/2017 9:54:12 PM

Steve Smith is the best player in franchise history

10/31/2017 10:06:26 PM

Nope.

[Edited on October 31, 2017 at 10:32 PM. Reason : He's also a shitty human being]

10/31/2017 10:32:10 PM

Who do you think is better?

I could see the argument that Kuechly has been better but Steve Smith played here for a long fucking time.

10/31/2017 10:42:16 PM

Kuechly and Peppers for sure.

10/31/2017 10:49:20 PM

Peppers couldn’t wait to leave town...

10/31/2017 10:51:56 PM

Which has nothing to do with the fact that he's the best Panthers player of all time. Smith ended two teammates careers with sucker punches if you want to bring non-performance stuff into it. Plus he was a ballot/diva that kept the team from developing any other sort of WR.

Smith made two all-pro teams, but only one at WR (returner as a rookie). Peppers made 2 with the Panthers as well.

10/31/2017 10:56:02 PM

I'd still have Smith as #1 but he could be passed by Cam and probably Kuechly as long as he isnt drooling into a pan in a couple years

10/31/2017 10:56:46 PM

there’s a difference between most talented and best player in franchise history

I don’t give a shit about All-Pro votes. if he plays in a bigger market he gets more All-Pro votes each season. he was one of the best recievers of his generation and had below-average QB’s for the majority of his 13 year career with the team.

10/31/2017 11:03:08 PM

might as well say Reggie White if Peppers is allowed to play half his career in the NFC North but still be considered the best Panther of all time

10/31/2017 11:25:44 PM

that was going to be my next retort, kind sir

10/31/2017 11:32:36 PM

Quote :

"I don’t give a shit about All-Pro votes. if he plays in a bigger market he gets more All-Pro votes each season"

Proof please. All-pro teams are a very good indicator of how good a player is. Much more so than pro bowl selections (which are a joke.)

The fact that you don't give a shit about all-pro tells me that you don't care about facts. You probably think Steve Smith should be in the hall of fame, too.

11/1/2017 7:11:43 AM

8th all time in Receiving yards
12 all time in receptions

Steve Smith currently holds 72 Panthers franchise records

11/1/2017 8:07:55 AM

Smith WILL be in the HOF

11/1/2017 9:47:00 AM

Maybe, but it'll be a long time.

WRs who deserve the HOF before Smith - Terrell Owens, Isaac Bruce, Torry Holt, Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson, Chad Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald. And that's just off the top of my head. Smith is more in the tier with Andre Jonson and Reggie Wayne that's behind those guys.

He's basically your Dale Murphy. A good long career (and one great year in 2005), but never an extended period of dominance at the position.

There are so many elite WRs currently eligible and coming up to be eligible that if he ever gets in it will be a long time from now.

11/1/2017 10:25:29 AM

Hey its 2010 in here

11/1/2017 10:51:56 AM

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" WRs who deserve the HOF before Smith - ... Chad Johnson ... "

11/1/2017 11:47:52 AM

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"Steve Smith is a cancer"

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"Terrell Owens"

and if someone like Larry Fitz plays another couple years, he won't "deserve" to get in before Smith since you have to be 5 years removed from playing

[Edited on November 1, 2017 at 12:57 PM. Reason : .]

11/1/2017 12:55:42 PM

^Yeah but it's not like they have to take a set number of WRs each year and there aren't guys already lined up ahead of him. And Steve Smith is 100% not a "first ballot HOF'er".

The HOF voting is going to be really interesting in the next several years. You're going to start having a ton of guys becoming eligible and some are going to have to wait a while. I mean it took Marvin Harrison 3 tries before he made it and I'm still not sure if TO will make it given his off-the-field antics rubbing voters the wrong way.

But what do I know, I thought Kurt Warner had no business being in the HOF but sure enough he made it in after 3 tries.

11/1/2017 1:42:55 PM

Marvin Harrison has had people killed, but at least he never got into a fight with a teammate

11/1/2017 2:15:29 PM

BREAKING: PANTHERS RE-SIGN ALL TIME GREATEST PANTHER BRENTON BERSIN

I love you Marty Hurney


And yes, Chad Johnson was a better WR than Steve Smith. That is a fact.

11/1/2017 2:46:46 PM

Jesus Tittyfucking Christ...

WHY?

11/1/2017 2:50:11 PM

^^ Numbers seems to lean towards Smith being the better receiver but you don't like him because he beat up two teammates. I get why you don't like him as a person, it makes sense.

But Chad Ochocinco beat up his wife or girlfriend so you may want to reassess.

11/1/2017 2:56:18 PM

^all of sgb's fantasy players always ended up being wife beaters, so he would know. Football and baseball actually.

11/1/2017 2:59:40 PM

most athletes are pieces of shit

11/1/2017 3:20:34 PM

Tom Brady is not a hall of famer since he runs a pyramid scheme

11/1/2017 3:30:54 PM

11/1/2017 3:32:30 PM

Quote :

"Numbers seems to lean towards Smith being the better receiver"

His career total numbers are better, because he played a long ass time. Both those guys peaked at basically the same time and Johnson has better numbers then.

Johnson: Top 10 in NFL for receptions 3 times
Smith: twice

Johnson: top 10 in receiving yards 5 times
Smith: 4 times

Johnson: top 10 in receiving TDs 3 times
Smith: twice

I'm not saying there's no way that Smith will get in the HOF, just saying those guys were better and will block him from getting votes for a long time. Smith played a long time and has an impressive career yardage total, but being good for a long time =/ being an all-time great at the position.

[Edited on November 1, 2017 at 3:40 PM. Reason : ^LMAO DEAD]

11/1/2017 3:39:19 PM

Chad Johnson was better because he didn't play in a run-first offense. Got it.

Smith led the league in receiving yards one year while the Panthers were dead last in pass attempts.

You're just a hater.

11/1/2017 5:11:56 PM

Steve Smith was an excellent run blocker also, which is why he was so valuable on a run-first offense. I can't think of a more valuable Panther over the course of their career, although Cam and Keuchly will likely pass him in that regard IMHO.

11/1/2017 6:45:34 PM

shouldve cut stewart

11/5/2017 1:25:10 PM

please put Artis Payne in this motherfucker

11/5/2017 1:39:18 PM

I can't believe dumb motherfuckers ever thought this turd was better than DeAngelo

11/5/2017 1:40:31 PM

anyone else's video feed acting up?

11/5/2017 1:49:33 PM

They made the right call with Funchess > Benjamin

I think it was predominantly money related, but it was still the right call

11/5/2017 2:10:03 PM

I don't think money had much to do with it

11/5/2017 2:16:03 PM

maybe we should fire shula and hire paul johnson

11/5/2017 2:17:04 PM

maybe we should fire shula and hire paul johnson

11/5/2017 2:17:50 PM

Matty Melt

11/5/2017 2:18:12 PM

lol it would be hilarious if Bersin got credit for the TD

11/5/2017 2:23:26 PM

Nah that falcons dude's helmet was clearly in the endzone

11/5/2017 2:26:37 PM

Offense has looked decent those last couple drives.

11/5/2017 2:27:09 PM

wow I was thinking thank god we didn't get rid of CAP earlier in that game, hopefully those fumbles were just a fluke for stewart, also christian had a nice run between the tackles but still would like to see him run ot the outside more

11/5/2017 2:36:27 PM

where the hell has this samuel been all year

11/5/2017 2:42:43 PM