It's more obvious now why O'brien never fired anyone..probably a little loyalty..but also because TOB wasn't heavily involved in recruiting process. It's obvious that his position coaches are the ones that the kids have most loyalty to. I hope Doeren (it looks like he will be) will be more involved and a player will pick the head coach (and school) more over the position coach.




[Edited on December 18, 2012 at 9:38 AM. Reason : asdf]

12/18/2012 9:38:28 AM

^do you know anything about how college recruiting works for football?

12/18/2012 10:22:00 AM

of course I do....I'm probably just digging too far into it...I guess if TOB was still there and walters was fired, priester would still come, but I also think the way o'brien was involved in recruiting wasn't as impressive to big time recruits. a position coach obviously needs to be the main recruiter, i just don't think TOB was a great closer for the big players because he wasn't as heavily involved as someone like a Dabo Swinney.

12/18/2012 10:46:01 AM

I had a conversation with Sterling Lucas a while back and he basically said the same thing. He reiterated that TOB was not a players coach and never would be.

12/18/2012 11:02:52 AM

^TOB was a 180 turn from what we had in Amato. NCSU overcorrected from a Coach that was very much a players coach to one that was far from it.

Hopefully Coach D will be a middle of the road, appeal to players but keep some of the structure that TOB had going

12/18/2012 12:33:43 PM

Doeren described himself as a players coach in his introductory press conference, fwiw.

12/18/2012 12:45:12 PM

I was at a wedding that Mathias Kiawanuka also attended a couple years ago and I got drunk and asked him about TOB...

He laughed and said he didn't really like him when he was in college...but the older he got, the more he appreciated having him as a coach...life lessons and such.

12/18/2012 12:57:05 PM

Quote :

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NCSU overcorrected from a Coach that was very much a players coach to one that was far from it[quote]

how i met your mother quote

12/18/2012 1:26:06 PM

^^I hope that Doeren has TOB's best qualities mixed w/ qualities of a great recruiter.

12/18/2012 1:58:37 PM

And clock management

12/18/2012 3:07:21 PM

based on the staff that Doeren has assembled, people should be pretty fucking excited

12/18/2012 4:16:10 PM

Quote :

"Michael Carvell @RecruitingAJC Kyrin Priester, who is GA's No. 1 WR prospect, says he will visit Auburn next month. Hopes for offer. He's NCSt commit "

12/18/2012 4:26:35 PM

oh well

12/18/2012 4:34:32 PM

^^^I'm very pleased with the coaching staff that he's pulled together. I like both of the coordinator choices quite a bit. I was a little disappointed that we couldn't get Marc Trestman back, but other than that I'm stoked.

12/18/2012 5:16:22 PM

that Trest Coast LOLffense

12/18/2012 6:47:50 PM

http://www.highschoolot.com/millbrook-s-cooper-accepts-all-american-invite/11869267/

if we were in the sec he would have stayed in state

12/19/2012 2:31:27 PM

no he wouldn't

12/19/2012 2:47:47 PM

that was actually a quote of his

12/19/2012 4:43:58 PM

Goodbye Matt Canada

[Edited on December 19, 2012 at 6:15 PM. Reason : Maybe this opens a spot for Ron Mexico]

12/19/2012 6:15:03 PM

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/8763289/will-grier-chooses-florida-gators

another top recruit leaves the state for the sec

12/19/2012 6:50:48 PM

WhygoodbyeCanada?

12/19/2012 7:06:43 PM

https://twitter.com/ncsu_99_17_24/status/281530625964519426

Quote :

"@NCSU_99_17_24: @NCSUShit RT “@ESPNTomLea: I was told today that Matt Canada to NC State isn't necessarily a done deal Something to keep an eye on #Badgers”"

12/19/2012 7:58:44 PM

Pls to bob stitt

12/19/2012 8:21:21 PM

boast boast boast

12/20/2012 3:55:59 PM

Canada isn't going anywhere. Hes signed the contract and the main reporter for Wisconsin football has been on radio shows stating that report as Bogus and that Canada is gone.

12/20/2012 9:54:05 PM

Yeah Canada has signed his contract and Yow put in a $500,000 buyout, so Canada is staying. Wisconsin media already saying on twitter that Canada is not an option for them.

12/21/2012 8:10:47 AM

Phew, that was close, NC State fart...

12/21/2012 10:08:28 AM

so much for running the spread

12/23/2012 9:16:36 AM

Canada was only at Wisconsin for 1 year, before that he was at NIU running the spread. His primary offense is the spread and last year he was trying to adjust in order to fit what Wisconsin had and liked to do.

I'm not sure that we'll run the spread year one, but once we have the roster and, more importantly, the right QB for it, I imagine we'll make the move.

12/23/2012 5:58:04 PM

To add... I don't think you necessarily have to run a pure spread to be effective. In truth you could run a west coast scheme which shares a lot of the spread but you don't have to use pure athleticism to spread the field. You can run more under center and don't have to be exclusively out of the shotgun.

12/23/2012 6:03:58 PM

That's what we run now

12/23/2012 6:54:10 PM

I wouldn't call what we run a west coast, it's more a pro style offense. The only reason we have as much passing as we do is because we can't run the ball well in the traditional sets we have. I don't ever recall hearing it referred to as a west coast by anyone either. We did run the west coast under amato for a period

12/24/2012 1:56:06 AM

pro style?

like when we have a fucking giraffe running the read option?

12/24/2012 1:57:34 AM

^bahahaha...thanks...I needed that laugh. We ran a pro-style with west coast/spread mixed in. Probably the closest thing to a "pro" offense that is run in college these days.

12/24/2012 3:30:31 AM

So, have any of you insider/premium subscribers of sports news heard shit about Asaintii Woulard recently?

12/27/2012 1:55:21 PM

sounds like he's headed to the SEC

12/27/2012 4:10:29 PM

Another one bites the dust:
http://news.fredericksburg.com/sports/2012/12/31/chargers-holmes-changes-mind-picks-duke/

1/1/2013 2:19:47 PM

.

[Edited on January 1, 2013 at 2:20 PM. Reason : double post]

1/1/2013 2:19:47 PM

Not really a huge loss there

1/1/2013 2:25:39 PM

He was one of the better DBs we had committed before TOB was fired, at least Tocho and Edmond are solid.

On a more positive front, 4 star DT Deadrin Senat now has a top 3 of State, FSU and South Carolina according to The Wolfpacker. He'll take an OV to Raleigh sometime in January.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncstate/football/recruiting/player-Deadrin-Senat-129381

1/1/2013 2:38:19 PM

Sweet

Id like to see an emphasis on OL/DL recruiting. Outside of the QB, that is where shit is won in college football

[Edited on January 1, 2013 at 2:47 PM. Reason : K]

1/1/2013 2:41:23 PM

^This was supposed to be TOB's strength. Hopefully, Doeren does a better job.

1/1/2013 3:41:52 PM

we lost a commit to Duke. That's how far we've fallen

1/1/2013 5:38:25 PM

If we hadn't just changed coaches I might agree with you.

1/1/2013 5:48:58 PM

Nvm

[Edited on January 1, 2013 at 5:55 PM. Reason : H]

1/1/2013 5:51:00 PM

Quote :

"That's how far we've fallen"

i know, it seems like only yesterday that we were on top of the world!

1/1/2013 6:33:50 PM

For every scrub that decommits, that's an open scholly for a legitimate player in future classes

1/1/2013 10:40:51 PM

^

1/1/2013 11:01:26 PM

that's basically just uncch's "we didn't want _____ anyway"...
losing a commit is almost never good. remember that wilson was more or less considered a scrub when he was recruited too.

1/1/2013 11:12:25 PM

^
Most recruits considered scrubs out of high school turn out to be scrubs.

I don't want no scrubs.

1/1/2013 11:21:50 PM