+144

9/10/2015 9:05:26 PM

yeah this is a game changing recruit. Gott's obviously done a fine job bringing in good recruits. But Dennis Smith Jr is on an entirely different level of any other recruit he's brought in. Seems like for a while now we've been close with some guys like him, but always lose out to more traditional powers. Getting Smith Jr and hopefully Bam and putting together maybe the best class in the nation...that's how things can really start to change around a program.

9/10/2015 9:58:38 PM

Let's just hope Smith is Gott's Rose in the sense that he elevates his recruiting and not in the sense that his career gets derailed from injury.

9/11/2015 2:02:14 AM

pay the man. Best recruit in program history besides maybe Wilkins.

9/11/2015 7:27:11 AM

^somebody on twitter dug up some old rankings and found Wilkins ranked 11 by one service, and Hodge was ranked 7...so smith jr is ranked higher than either of them

9/11/2015 8:45:05 AM

that david thompson kid was a good recruit

9/11/2015 9:24:48 AM

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"First rule"

If only there were someone who could do something about it...

9/12/2015 8:30:11 AM

From what I remember hearing, Chris Washburn was the top ranked recruit in his class. (Although I'm not really sure what constituted recruiting rankings in the '80s)

Obviously didn't work out well, but everyone wanted him out of HS.

[Edited on September 12, 2015 at 10:46 AM. Reason : tbdv]

9/12/2015 10:39:26 AM

Washburn's wiki page says

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"A 6'11" center, Washburn was one of the top three high school recruits in the country in 1984, along with John Williams (LSU) and Danny Manning (Kansas). He signed with North Carolina State University, along with future NBA stars Vinny Del Negro and Nate McMillan to form one of the best recruiting classes in the nation on a team that also included Spud Webb."

but yeah, recruiting rankings then compared to now isn't really a fair comparison.

9/12/2015 10:49:09 AM

Im just pointing out that recruiting hasnt seemed like a liniting factor to me. Gott has gotten the same (good) results regardless of the talent his teams here have had.

9/12/2015 12:36:04 PM

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"A 6'11" center, Washburn was one of the top three high school recruits in the country in 1984"

And UNC didn't want him . Some things never change.

[Edited on September 12, 2015 at 12:42 PM. Reason : ...]

9/12/2015 12:42:14 PM

^^I think there's a difference in a few top 100 recruits in one class, versus a few top 10-15 recruits

9/12/2015 1:00:52 PM

Gott has never had a top 10 recruit here, let alone top 5 (or two top 10's). And he has gone to 2 sweet 16's....

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"Obviously didn't work out well, but everyone wanted him out of HS."

Him not working out had nothing to do with basketball though. He averaged 18 and 7 and was the 3rd pick in the draft

9/12/2015 2:23:11 PM

+17,342

11/12/2015 3:17:47 PM

+ credibility to him and buzz williams for calling out these new rules that are going to ruin college basketball.

11/12/2015 6:22:03 PM

I know I know 1st rule...but please explain?

11/12/2015 8:20:59 PM

A bunch of ACC coaches did a roundtable discussion with Jay Bilas talking about all sorts of things. They had an opportunity to talk about the rules and Gott was the first coach to say he was concerned about the changes leading to 70 combined free throws or lackluster defense.

Up until then every coach fakely said they thought it was great and they'd just have to adjust. Gott opened up discussion for more coaches to speak out against these awful rule changes. Buzz Williams absolutely ripped the rule changes and said he's concerned that the referees already had too much control over games these rules, at the very least, just put the game more into the judgement of the officials. In addition to that, he said the rules will lead to more teams playing the same way, less conflicting styles which will ultimately lead to the more talented teams winning more often.

Hamilton said if it aint broke dont fix it

[Edited on November 12, 2015 at 8:28 PM. Reason : k]

11/12/2015 8:27:04 PM

What rule changes are they referring to? I only remember the shot clock being like 5 seconds shorter.

11/12/2015 9:34:45 PM

^

11/12/2015 9:44:04 PM

1 less time out. and faking u got fouled is a foul. reduce double timeouts (team time out near an official time out will combine). 1 shot techs

but you can now dunk in the warm up, so there's that.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/13037928/ncaa-announces-rule-changes-2015-16-including-30-second-shot-clock-fewer-outs

11/12/2015 9:55:08 PM

10 seconds to cross half court won't reset on dead balls. Only 3 time outs in the 2nd half. If a timeout is called within 30 seconds of the media time out it will become the media time out. Coaches can't call to from sideline during a live ball. No more 5 second call if the guy is dribbling the ball. Arch under the basket moved out a further foot.

11/12/2015 9:58:00 PM

No doubling up on timeouts near the media timeout is pretty much the best rule change ever.

11/12/2015 10:23:34 PM

You guys left out the most important, most damaging rules.

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"The arc underneath the basket will be extended out another foot, from 3 feet to 4 feet, after data showed it reduced the number of collisions."

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"• Perimeter defense, particularly on the dribbler and strictly enforcing directives established before the 2013-14 season. • Physicality in post play. • Screening, particularly moving screens and requiring the screener to be stationary. • Block/charge plays. • Allowing greater freedom of movement for players without the ball."

All of these points of emphasis are in response to what they called "too much defense" .

They will come out all neuter defense by calling everything a foul.

11/12/2015 10:46:53 PM

So UVA won't be able to hack people all game and get away with it?

11/12/2015 10:58:50 PM

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"Screening, particularly moving screens and requiring the screener to be stationary."

According to Earl, illegal moving screens are just "good defense" and actually calling the violation will "neuter the defense"

11/12/2015 11:16:12 PM

^^^ They've tried to push that before. We ended up with classics like when NCCU shot 50 FT's against State in Raleigh a couple of years back.

[Edited on November 13, 2015 at 12:44 AM. Reason : tbdv]

11/13/2015 12:44:28 AM

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"If a timeout is called within 30 seconds of the media time out it will become the media time out."

I heard Sidney Lowe wail from 1000 miles away

11/13/2015 8:26:23 AM

These points of emphasis will be like the points of emphasis every other year: called heavily during November/December, then rarely emphasized during conference play.

I love getting rid of the 5 second call, though. That rule is fine, if there isn't a shot clock.

11/13/2015 9:06:35 AM

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"Hamilton said if it aint broke dont fix it"

clearly Hamilton has been blindly coaching college basketball to not have seen how terrible it has become. the NCAA absolutely needed to make some changes - the grabbing, holding and flopping have gotten out of control in the past decade.

11/13/2015 9:14:58 AM

making the arc under the basket has nothing to do with that. all of these rules are put in place to increase scoring. that was explicitly stated so stop saying it was about the quality of the game. its nothing but nbaification.

11/13/2015 9:40:56 AM

Debbie gave him +2020

http://www.gopack.com/news/2015/11/13/MBB_1113154447.aspx

11/13/2015 12:05:38 PM

Well deserved IMO.

I've come completely around on him.

11/13/2015 12:07:50 PM

yep...well deserved indeed.

he's really worked out for us so far. especially considering he was sorta hired outta nowhere.

11/13/2015 12:32:00 PM

As in we whiffed on our top choices and Debbie happened to have a personal connection with Gottfried. I'd say we got pretty lucky.

11/13/2015 12:35:18 PM

I'll happily take the 4 or 5 maddening games per season if the recruiting/postseason success stays at such a high level

totally deserved

11/13/2015 12:37:00 PM

^^maybe a bit lucky, sure. i doubt any of us expected 2 sweet 16s in his first 4 years. but remember what happened when Fowler whiffed on his top choices? we wound up with Lowe. seems like DY had some semblance of a back up plan after missing out on her top choices.

11/13/2015 1:02:46 PM

+everything.

hope he stays for a very long time.

11/13/2015 1:54:49 PM

Trolling UNC by giving the women's coach an extension at the same time???

11/13/2015 2:11:45 PM

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"Debbie happened to have a personal connection with Gottfried. I'd say we got pretty lucky."

lol what? Isn't that exactly what an athletic director should do, use their personal connections and previous affiliations to improve their program when the opportunity presents itself?

11/13/2015 2:54:41 PM

Hes doing well but lets hold off on the lifetime contract for now...

11/13/2015 4:33:54 PM

^^What I meant is that I feel pretty lucky that our backup plan happened to work out so well. What's so hard to understand about that? Were you even here for the Lee Fowler years? His backup plan was the guy sitting closest to him after everyone else turned him down.

[Edited on November 13, 2015 at 4:41 PM. Reason : ]

11/13/2015 4:40:26 PM

^^lol...we quite literally are holding off on the lifetime contract

11/13/2015 5:24:55 PM

he's earning it tonight

11/13/2015 9:18:56 PM

the rules may have ruined things for our program. we were able to score without the new rules and now that its easier for everyone else to score our advantage no longer exists.

11/13/2015 9:20:43 PM

Way to return the favor for that extension. I cant wait for the CBI

11/13/2015 9:53:22 PM

^Aren't you the big Doeren homer? How could you possibly hate on Gott?

When Doeren has us as one of the top 16 teams in the country, let us know.

11/13/2015 9:57:48 PM

winning two games in a row doesn't really make you a top16 team but nice try.

11/13/2015 9:59:24 PM

Lol I can't wait to hear the rationale for how this was the coaches fault and not the players thegoodlife3

11/13/2015 9:59:42 PM

+Credibility to sign the extension knowing this year's team sucks

11/13/2015 10:01:44 PM

Congrats on the extension, well deserved, but tonight was pathetic. Time to wear the team out after that.

11/13/2015 10:09:46 PM