Quote :

" You think that because the client-side font end loads nice and neat the database calls in the backend aren't ending in errors that aren't being displayed?"

If you need to continuously make the same database calls over and over again for something as big as this, then you fucked up from the beginning. I could understand maybe being overloaded by people saving their security questions, but if your assertion is that they need to make a database call on every page load for what amounts to a static list... well, that's just pure incompetence in programming.

10/2/2013 12:38:42 AM

If the original compensation included healthcare, what's wrong with rolling this benefit over as pay and having people use it to purchase healthcare?

This seems to be pretty logical...

10/2/2013 12:45:03 AM

^ be careful there... you're getting dangerously close to a part of the solution for rising healthcare costs!

10/2/2013 12:55:00 AM

^
Do congressional staffers count as government employees? Seems like they should be covering them if they are following the ACA. it doesn't make sense they would cancel their health coverage legislatively rather than just follow the law.

Nothing about that situation makes sense. I guess that's what happens when out of touch asshole politicians play political games with people's livelihoods though.

10/2/2013 1:49:06 AM

^Yup, all that.

10/2/2013 9:29:25 AM

Quote :

"If you need to continuously make the same database calls over and over again for something as big as this, then you fucked up from the beginning. I could understand maybe being overloaded by people saving their security questions, but if your assertion is that they need to make a database call on every page load for what amounts to a static list... well, that's just pure incompetence in programming."

I can't really imagine that inserting/updating one row (which is what should be happening in the case of security questions) would fail if any testing whatsoever had been done. High volume traffic could cause some database locking and timeouts. The list should be pulled once.

Talented developers don't work for shitty government bureaucracies. It's soul crushing and it doesn't pay that well. Bureaucracies are also notorious for sending most of the funding to do-nothing administrators and underpaying the actual professionals. It's not really Obama's fault, this is just how organization works when you aren't actually dependent on sales and customer faction for survival.

[Edited on October 2, 2013 at 12:27 PM. Reason : ]

10/2/2013 12:26:53 PM

i can tell by the pixels

10/2/2013 1:35:36 PM

^^ I doubt the one update/insert here and there doing it. What I think is happening is that every page load is doing the exact same query for the values in the dropdown box. Nobody thought that value should be cached, because when you run a couple users at a time, it's fine. I can imagine some stupid design choices that might cause issues with the upsert when a user saves his security questions, but it's far more likely that they just aren't caching that list like any sane person would do.

I've tended to notice that the people I have interviewed that are solely web developers tend to have little to no multi-threaded knowledge and even less conceptual knowledge of how to properly design multi-user systems.

10/2/2013 10:24:48 PM

^^

10/2/2013 11:49:09 PM

Can we talk about this tactic that the Administration is using? Closing down monuments, and then paying guards to keep people from walking around them? I mean, for Christ's sake, the WWII memorial is just concrete.

10/3/2013 10:47:54 AM

Seriously? Do you just repost shit off Rand Paul's twitter now?

10/3/2013 10:56:59 AM

So, no, you don't want to talk about it, because you can't defend it.

10/3/2013 11:14:09 AM

Or closing things down that dont actually require staffing, or that are actually privately owned (but you would think are federal).

Make it hurt, Obama.

10/3/2013 11:18:34 AM

Defend what? They are national monuments. They are closed because the GOP shut down the federal government. You don't want a bunch of asshole kids on skateboards spraying graffiti all over them, so they have guards to keep people out. What part of this do you not understand? Stop trying to deflect from your representatives in Congress keeping this farce going in an effort to win a political scalp.

10/3/2013 11:19:47 AM

i voted for obama. and i think if you have someone guarding a national monument, it's safe to let people visit the national monument.

did i blow your partisan mind

10/3/2013 11:23:04 AM

Quote :

"They are closed because the GOP shut down the federal government."

nope

10/3/2013 11:25:01 AM

^^Which is exactly what they've been doing. Vets have been visiting the WWII memorial for the past two days. Seriously, this shutdown has nothing to do with the administration or Obama. It's 100% an internal GOP issue. They can't control their own lunatic members from gerrymandered districts that allows them to do whatever the hell they want without any political consequences. Talking about anything else is deflecting from the real issue and exposes you as a disingenuous lackwit.

10/3/2013 11:32:05 AM

I think you're a disingenuous lackwit if you think Democrats don't also gerrymander districts (or if you think that's literally the only thing that got them in office).

Also:

Quote :

"It's 100% an internal GOP issue. "

Nope. Keep jerking off to "The Ed Show" and Rachel Maddow though.

10/3/2013 11:34:27 AM

Quote :

"Which is exactly what they've been doing. Vets have been visiting the WWII memorial for the past two days. "

but they're turning away regular tourists

Quote :

"Talking about anything else is deflecting from the real issue and exposes you as a disingenuous lackwit."

or maybe my mind has more than one track

or maybe i don't give a shit about what the retards in washington are fighting about today, and i'm more concerned about them shutting down things that shouldn't be shut down. (parks, monuments, etc).

[Edited on October 3, 2013 at 11:40 AM. Reason : .]

10/3/2013 11:38:38 AM

The ww2 monument has trash cans that need to be changed frequently, water works to maintain and I'm sure other maintenance (especially over the upcoming winter months). The "goons" allegedly guarding its entrance where just setting barricades up when the veterans arrived.

People can complain that Obama is trying to make them feel the most pain possible, but the fact is they don't have a clue to all the places federal money is headed, what the current finances are, how long the shutdown will last, etc. Basically, until you can produce a better "government shutdown spending plan" than what Obama has cobbled together then STFU.

[Edited on October 3, 2013 at 11:43 AM. Reason : Basically basicalky. Wtf?]

10/3/2013 11:41:21 AM

^^^Prove me wrong you dipship troll. These are facts, not crap I'm pulling out of my ass like 90% 100% of your posts.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2013/09/meadows-boehner-defund-obamacare-suicide-caucus-geography.html

Quote :

"These eighty members represent just eighteen per cent of the House and just a third of the two hundred and thirty-three House Republicans. They were elected with fourteen and a half million of the hundred and eighteen million votes cast in House elections last November, or twelve per cent of the total. In all, they represent fifty-eight million constituents. That may sound like a lot, but it’s just eighteen per cent of the population. Most of the members of the suicide caucus have districts very similar to Meadows’s. While the most salient demographic fact about America is that it is becoming more diverse, Republican districts actually became less diverse in 2012. According to figures compiled by The Cook Political Report’s David Wasserman, a leading expert on House demographics who provided me with most of the raw data I’ve used here, the average House Republican district became two percentage points more white in 2012. The members of the suicide caucus live in a different America from the one that most political commentators describe when talking about how the country is transforming. The average suicide-caucus district is seventy-five per cent white, while the average House district is sixty-three per cent white. Latinos make up an average of nine per cent of suicide-district residents, while the over-all average is seventeen per cent. The districts also have slightly lower levels of education (twenty-five per cent of the population in suicide districts have college degrees, while that number is twenty-nine per cent for the average district)."

[Edited on October 3, 2013 at 11:43 AM. Reason : :]

10/3/2013 11:42:35 AM

You're angry that 18 percent of the House represents 18 percent of the population?

Hmm.

I guess I would be mad and calling people "dipshit" too if I was that stupid.

[Edited on October 3, 2013 at 11:47 AM. Reason : -]

10/3/2013 11:47:38 AM

its an internal GOP issue

10/3/2013 11:49:18 AM

I think you should walk outside your condo and smack some homeless around.

10/3/2013 11:53:21 AM

^^^No, I'm mad that 18% of the House is holding 100% of the population hostage to their idiotic demands. I'm mad that they've gerrymandered themselves into districts that ensure they will face no political consequences for their actions. If you actually apportioned the House on party lines based on popular vote, Democrats would have the majority.

[Edited on October 3, 2013 at 11:54 AM. Reason : :]

10/3/2013 11:53:49 AM

Yeah I'm not even going to waste my time writing a crushing response to the stupidity in that post.

10/3/2013 11:56:13 AM

Because you have nothing. You're a clueless fucking troll who retreats the moment someone slaps you in the face with the truth.

10/3/2013 11:57:21 AM

remember that time when y0willy0 was convinced that Romney was going to win because Fox News told him so? good times.

10/3/2013 11:57:57 AM

^^Actually I think you should probably edit those last two posts of yours before they become permanent.

Also you should chill the fuck out.



[Edited on October 3, 2013 at 11:59 AM. Reason : -]

10/3/2013 11:58:28 AM

No, this is actually cathartic for me. I don't associate with people like you in real life so this is about my only opportunity to rage against the sort of thinking that's fucking up this country. So thanks for that.

[Edited on October 3, 2013 at 12:02 PM. Reason : :]

10/3/2013 12:02:09 PM

Remember that time when dtownral was voted the biggest troll on TWW?

Or that time some wolfwebber met him in person and he was exactly as expected?

Or how he is a walking contradiction himself and does nothing on this site but contradict others?

Example, the biggest radical socialist in TSB that actively takes biscuits from homeless folks in downtown Raleigh?

You sir are a simple fool.

Also I dont watch Foxnews, or if I do, I wash it down with a hearty glass of MSNBC. I have no shame regarding my Romney predictions. I was disappointed that many voters I assumed would vote for him did not for religious reasons. Obama played a much better ground game although it was lacking compared to 2008. At least I took comfort in that (knowing that his candle/novelty had faded).

It really is a stupid thing to bring up considering your own nonsensical career here.

I did however lie when I said I would leave TSB forever if Romney los; If anything you should bring that up.

I remain to keep clowns like Shrike in line, of course you dont count (you're just a troll), but at least Shrike is passionate about what he does.

[Edited on October 3, 2013 at 12:07 PM. Reason : -]

10/3/2013 12:05:00 PM

(who did i meet in person? someone at the raleigh alliance social i invited people to? no one introduced themselves as a member here)

10/3/2013 12:09:08 PM

Quote :

"If you actually apportioned the House on party lines based on popular vote, Democrats would have the majority."

If you can't address this point then there is no argument and you're trolling.

10/3/2013 12:10:15 PM

These are the people Obama is dealing with,

10/3/2013 12:11:45 PM

IMStoned420, I dont want to be mean to you (or anybody), you can claim that Im trolling if I dont address that point, but theres no need to.

Its such a stupidly simple aspect of our governmental system that I shouldnt have to spell it out. You just anticipate Im not going to take the time to educate you, and then you can say "I win" because I didnt respond.

Simply put (and ill wait for your response before I go further), why is the popular vote (regarding any office) always thrown out there by the loser when something like districts or electoral college screws them?

Why not move to change the voting system instead of attacking those using it to their advantage?

That particular passage wasnt even the meat of Shrike's rant. I dont know if his numbers are even correct, but complaining that 18% of the House UNFORTUNATELY represents the will of 18% of the population is ludicrous.

What do you expect? Those 18% are the ones getting fired up at county fairs about shutting down the government. That makes you mad? GOOD. Cancel them out, complain, vote, etc. The rep standing there fanning the flames knows his constituency. Thats what he does? Thats all he does...?.

Having an aneurysm probably isnt the solution, but god damn I swear its embarrassing how badly the idea of a republic gets abused on this board.

[Edited on October 3, 2013 at 12:21 PM. Reason : -]

10/3/2013 12:19:09 PM

if you won't respond to that, how about you responding to Boehner not allowing the House to even vote on a clean CR. what's wrong with letting them vote on it?

[Edited on October 3, 2013 at 12:26 PM. Reason : .]

10/3/2013 12:25:38 PM

Quote :

"They were elected with fourteen and a half million of the hundred and eighteen million votes cast in House elections last November, or twelve per cent of the total. In all, they represent fifty-eight million constituents. That may sound like a lot, but it’s just eighteen per cent of the population."

This.

Also, the entire point of the House of Representatives is to be the legislative body most representing the popular will. And when they control the House after receiving less of the popular vote, something is fucked up.

10/3/2013 12:27:25 PM

The majority of the House of Representatives would vote for a clean CR which would end the shutdown, but one man is not letting them vote on it.

[Edited on October 3, 2013 at 12:32 PM. Reason : whats that, like .0000003% of the population?]

10/3/2013 12:31:03 PM

Lol, what do you want me to say? Hes selfish? Hes worried about losing his job?

Of course he is.

I didnt write the rules that allow him to stonewall? Im not sure this is a valuable conversation to be having.

Quote :

"Also, the entire point of the House of Representatives is to be the legislative body most representing the popular will. And when they control the House after receiving less of the popular vote, something is fucked up."

Of course I agree, but again I didnt design the system. The system appears to be abused by both sides, but more so by the side I happen to agree with on more issues. Does that make me a terrible person? I dont think so, but at the same time I dont care.

Im not going to sit here and (like aaronburro) pretend to be affiliated with the party of Jesus/Morality/Shining Light/The Golden Path. I vote for entirely selfish reasons.

I think dtownral is better suited to answering your concerns IMStoned420 about popular vote / vote by representatives. Seems dtownral has some very strong feelings about why direct democracy is a horrible idea. Cant remember what thread that was from, its been awhile, but I dont necessarily disagree with him.

10/3/2013 12:35:55 PM

All presidential democracies are doomed to fail, the US being the exception until now.

http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2013/10/juan_linz_dies_yale_political_scientist_explains_why_government_by_crisis.html

10/3/2013 1:23:11 PM

So here's what you basically just said in the most pedantic and bullshit way possible:

"You're right, IMStoned. But I don't care that government isn't functioning how it is supposed to because my team is winning. I got mine, fuck you.

Unrelated ad hom on aaronburro to make myself appear more moderate.

Deflect onto unrelated topic about some bullshit somebody else said."

You are a fucking awful troll.

10/3/2013 1:23:54 PM

You, dtownral, and Shrike (to a lesser extent), are all pushing this to a terrible crescendo.

Keep it coming.

Your particular brand of ridiculous cursing discredits any opinions or beliefs you might have anyway. You didnt even really use pedantic correctly, but in your various drum circle conversations about Republicans and the broken American political system, you probably thought it made you sound smarter.



[Edited on October 3, 2013 at 1:38 PM. Reason : its the corporations man]

10/3/2013 1:32:18 PM

Quote :

"They were elected with fourteen and a half million of the hundred and eighteen million votes cast in House elections last November, or twelve per cent of the total. In all, they represent fifty-eight million constituents. That may sound like a lot, but it’s just eighteen per cent of the population."

Okay. In 2012, voter turnout was 57.5%. In other words, of U.S. citizens eligible to vote, 57.5% of them voted. Of course, that doesn't include children (all of whom will have to deal with the consequences of current policy), felons (some of which are likely innocent, having been charged with unjust laws), and non-citizens living here and, in some capacity, contributing to society. Of that 57.5% (total voting eligible population was about 220 million, so around 130 million actually voted), 51.2% voted for Obama (around 66 million).

So, in the U.S., with a total population of ~312 million, 21 percent of people voted for Obama. Slightly less voted for Romney.

Nothing new here. A tiny percent of the population actually votes for the politicians who are in power.

10/3/2013 1:34:24 PM

The left knows best. Didntcha know?

10/3/2013 1:43:42 PM

government spending, post recessions, over the past 30 years. Every president except Obama was allowed increasing spending after the recession to aid in recovery ('82 - Reagan, '01 - W., '91 - H.W., and '09 - Obama)


Is it any wonder why we've had trouble recovering?

10/3/2013 2:45:49 PM

Not to anyone who understands basic economics math.

10/3/2013 2:48:38 PM

Yet still got us to 17T in debt, impressive.

^a graph that would show FEDERAL spending after each recession would back your claim more on what president Obama was allowed to do and not do.

And then you have to look at how much entitlements have grown and limiting how much capital is available... or you can simply ignore that biggest spending item for the fed and states if you wish, which I expect you to.

10/3/2013 4:00:38 PM

Yes, all of our debt is from Obama

10/3/2013 5:14:13 PM

oh here it comes

GWB reference in 3, 2, 1... hurr de durr

nobody in here seriously defends him either.

id say this thread is over as soon as these equivalences start being drawn.

10/3/2013 6:53:56 PM

And everyone before him

10/3/2013 6:58:34 PM