6/16/2011 4:38:21 PM

The one way you can explain the same tag on different cars and it not being a red-flag is dealer tags.

which is a scandal in itself.

6/16/2011 4:40:41 PM

and remind me - didn't one or two players work for a dealer?

6/16/2011 4:42:21 PM

That, I dont remember happening...

I hope NOT but even if he did its still a violation.

6/16/2011 4:43:25 PM

I think in the beginning it came up that a few detailed cars or something for a dealer.

6/16/2011 4:44:31 PM

does "detailing cars" mean "driving them around town and illegally parking them"?

6/16/2011 5:01:54 PM

But all of these cars were registered to a player's family or other student. So I dont see how a dealer could work into this. Unless UNC was just blatantly lying.

6/16/2011 5:02:58 PM

Unc doesn't lie

6/16/2011 5:06:54 PM

Perhaps I was not clear on pages 147 and 148.



Perhaps I should not have used the word "player" to quantify the entity to which the cars were registered.



Regardless, what you are seeing here is quite apparent. I am going to go all Brakk on you guys and let you figure this one out, because we have seen this sort of behavior before.








[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 5:10 PM. Reason : oh yes, they totally don't lie. at all. that's why they're in this mess.]

6/16/2011 5:08:54 PM

Quote :

"But all of these cars were registered to a player's family or other student. So I dont see how a dealer could work into this. Unless UNC was just blatantly lying."

Could be one of those situations too where they just fill out the bullshit paperwork cause they think no one is ever gonna look like the $0 car sale at Ohio St.

6/16/2011 5:09:43 PM

I love it, i come home from work to find out the doo doo just got deeper!

6/16/2011 5:24:35 PM

I love that this thread is 149 pages. Awesome.

6/16/2011 5:31:44 PM

6/16/2011 5:32:12 PM

someone PM me when the basketball team gets involved. this bores me.

6/16/2011 5:37:58 PM

[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 10:35 PM. Reason : removed]

6/16/2011 5:41:15 PM

6/16/2011 5:46:42 PM

It's funny reading IC posters sarcastically say "yeah if this doesn't scream LOIC then I don't know what does"...they're missing the entire point of why they media wanted to see the parking ticket. Not to see how many tickets Little has amassed, but to see which vehicles he was driving, who they were registered to, etc.

6/16/2011 5:49:30 PM

@acurliss Andy Curliss, N&O
At least 42 parking citations tied to former #UNC star Marvin Austin's vehicles.
http://bit.ly/j8mNzT

I heard Marvin got sick of getting the tickets and got a scooter.

6/16/2011 5:53:57 PM

you, too, read packpride i see.

6/16/2011 5:59:27 PM

I see you assholes have found the INSERT IMAGE button. Congrats.

6/16/2011 6:04:13 PM

So when is someone going to throw the money in to get the vehicle history from the DMV?

6/16/2011 6:12:23 PM

dear admin, please delete aaronburro's post, it's destroying my ability to peruse UNC's demise.

Thanks

6/16/2011 6:12:35 PM

Quote :

"@wralsportsfan: #UNC spokesman: @chanthorp agrees these are a lot of parking tickets, but not an issue as long as students pay them."

DEFLECT DEFLECT DEFLECT

6/16/2011 6:22:40 PM

6/16/2011 6:29:31 PM

Quote :

"If those guys were taking their license tags off car A (which it was registerred to) and putting them on cars B, C, and D, I think that would be a legal issue. "

If they are doing that the charge is called "fictitious tags".

Quote :

"someone PM me when the basketball team gets involved. this bores me."

If this turns into a big enough deal (which this has real potential to turn into) it is going to involve UNC's entire athletic dept.

Unless they have some mighty fancy explanations we may be seeing the beginning of TARMAGEDDON. Bitch's phone records and the missing bits of info are probably going to be interesting once they are pried out of their sweaty little hands. This is probably the info that they gave first because it was minor by comparison and only implicates the players already deemed "dirty".

6/16/2011 6:34:33 PM

6/16/2011 6:45:21 PM

Pack Pride is jizzing themselves. I'm so glad people here actually read the fucking thread before posting the same tired links/text blocks over and over and over again.

6/16/2011 8:11:14 PM

the UNC supporters on charlotteobserver.com have switched gears from downplaying the parking tickets, to bashing JR Sweezy

hilarity everywhere

6/16/2011 9:03:02 PM

I am waiting for someone to run carfax on the handful of cars with supplied vin numbers (the ones with temporary tags). Might be some interesting tidbits there. WRAL is now reporting that Ryan Houston owns two land rovers. I guess he has some rich ass parents because UNC said he was cleared.

[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 9:41 PM. Reason : asdf]

[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 9:43 PM. Reason : sadfasd]

6/16/2011 9:18:45 PM

PERFORMANCE

ENHANCING

WEED!

6/16/2011 10:04:19 PM

Seems like everything is done coming out for tonight, see you guys tomorrow

6/16/2011 11:07:34 PM

good night...sweet prince

6/16/2011 11:09:47 PM

^ lolled much harder than I should have

6/16/2011 11:17:28 PM

who wears a hat with a picture of a helmet on it

6/17/2011 1:54:40 AM

former browns coaches

6/17/2011 2:04:26 AM

The Big 10 and ACC are making the SEC look clean by comparison.

6/17/2011 2:25:34 AM

Bama Z said on the radio a few weeks ago that Alabama has half as many sports teams/programs as UNC, but their NCAA compliance department is twice the size

SEC schools basically lawyer the fuck up to have a grip on their illegal activities...UNC didn't prepare well enough to be an SEC-type football program

6/17/2011 2:41:56 AM

http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/06/17/1279818/blake-players-talked.html#ixzz1PX2Hv8Rd

Quote :

"Although it is unclear whether Blake knew the players were training in California with former UNC teammate Kentwan Balmer, the phone records indicate that Blake and Austin were in contact while Austin was there."

Quote :

"According to the phone records, Blake made calls or texts from Westlake Village, Calif.; Thousand Oaks, Calif.; Los Angeles and more than 20 other California cities between June 28 and July 11 in 2009. Thomas and Austin have said they went to the Proactive Sports Performance in Westlake Village, Calif. - where dozens of Wichard's clients have trained - before the start of UNC's training camp in August 2009. A hotel receipt obtained by Yahoo! Sports, which financially links Austin to Wichard's agency, shows the dates of the players' stay in California as July 23 to Aug. 1. Between July 20 and Aug. 3, Blake's phone records show that there were 20 calls or texts to Wichard's cellphone, 10 to Austin's and eight to Thomas'. Blake was also in contact with Davis twice on July 28."

Sounds pretty clear to me.

6/17/2011 7:59:21 AM

^I'd be interested to see how many texts/calls Blake made to other players during the same span that Austin and Thomas were at the training facility. I feel like it would be a lot less which would be a pretty good indication that the calls/texts to Austin and Thomas were more than just a "hey, how's your day going?" kind of thing. Of course we're already all assuming that's the case anyway, but it would nice to see some evidence supporting that.

Do phone companies keep records of what was actually in the text of text messages?...Doubt they would go through the trouble of doing this legally or logistically, but I feel like there would be pretty damning evidence to be had if so. One can dream anyway.

[Edited on June 17, 2011 at 9:09 AM. Reason : asdf]

6/17/2011 9:08:51 AM

Quote :

"BOYCOT DA SCHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

6/17/2011 9:12:31 AM

Quote :

"Do phone companies keep records of what was actually in the text of text messages?"

Just speculating here but doubtful. Text messages ride on the carrier signal from the tower that the phone receives to know information like whether any calls are trying to connect etc so its not quite like when sending an email for instance.

6/17/2011 9:53:07 AM

Google says, maybe. Supposedly they are stored for a short period of time but can typically only be retrieved via court order.

6/17/2011 10:07:49 AM

Quote :

"jpgiglio Joe Giglio by joeovies UNC provided a summary of Butch Davis' cell use on his '919' number which included zero calls jpgiglio Joe Giglio by joeovies Records for the '216' number Davis uses, and showed up on Blake's record, were not released "

lol, I wish judge manning would get pissed and do something over UNC purposefully not following the court order

6/17/2011 10:29:43 AM

Is there any way to punish an organization for contempt other than fines? Isn't there a way they could throw Baddour or Thorp in jail for this ?

6/17/2011 10:31:15 AM

6/17/2011 11:03:25 AM

so much for the whole "University of the people" garbage. they only care to be open and honest with the public when it fits their agenda.

If they really had nothing to hide as they are trying to make everyone believe, it would probably help their cause to stop obstructing the process. If I was a judge, attorney or NCAA investigator this would be a pretty obvious red flag that they have something to hide

Quote :

"Could be one of those situations too where they just fill out the bullshit paperwork cause they think no one is ever gonna look like the $0 car sale at Ohio St."

hours after that $0 car sale rumor started it was proven to be false. In fact OSU hasnt gotten in any trouble for illegal vehicle sales. They've been under investigation for months but nothing has come of it at this point. Not trying to derail the thread, just get your facts straight

[Edited on June 17, 2011 at 11:09 AM. Reason : asdf]

6/17/2011 11:05:28 AM

the only possible way to get legitimate information from them is to have a lawsuit filed. There has to be evidence for one party, such as the NCAA, to sue for contempt. If a lawsuit is filed, it's a totally different situation.

UNC can lie all they want to the NCAA, hold back whatever information they need to until they can figure out what to do, but when the federal court says to you under oath "did you know this", you're in a totally different realm.

this is the only way documents were released in the first place, because media outlets brought it to court. everything that comes forth from the documents i guarantee UNC will throw up a middle finger at until another court case mandates they answer.

6/17/2011 11:16:30 AM

^^Fair enough, admittedly I haven't been up to date on a lot of the ohio state stuff. I will say that there's probably more too it since stuff about the cars just keeps coming up

http://www.10tv.com/live/content/teninvestigates/stories/2011/06/16/story-ohio-state-university-compliance-cars.html?sid=102

Quote :

"Ohio State's Top Compliance Person Drives Courtesy Car Thursday, June 16, 2011 6:01 PM Updated: Thursday, June 16, 2011 6:48 PM COLUMBUS, Ohio — Several of Ohio State's athletic administrators workers drive courtesy cars that are provided by local car dealers, including the director of NCAA compliance, 10 Investigates' Paul Aker reported on Thursday ...."

[Edited on June 17, 2011 at 11:18 AM. Reason : ]

6/17/2011 11:17:58 AM

we should all chip in to get Prez to trace the calls

6/17/2011 11:52:10 AM

you kidding me...zero calls?!?

throw the book at them, they are making a mockery of the judicial system and the NCAA

6/17/2011 11:53:32 AM