if you check my stats above http://bf2s.com/player/33571580/ you will see I spend a good amount of time in a tank.. I can't tell you how annoying anti-tank people are.. you will also see I spend way too much time playing Engineer

2 guys who are smart using anti-tank will ruin my evening and generally send me out just to hunt them and not destroy anyone else on the other team - Now... the C4 trick is the quickest way to blow up a tank no doubt.. but I honestly have very little problem with C4 deaths as opposed to dealing with anti-tank guys.. 1 anti-tank I can deal with by getting the hell away from them or just shooting them down... 2 or more? I'm f'n toast...

oh and as for the bf2s.com reporting things correctly - so far it has been correct for mine.. it doesn't update immediately though I do know that.. but I think they worked out something with gamespy and it works rather well compared to most others

[Edited on July 31, 2005 at 11:24 PM. Reason : new page - no longer "above"]

7/31/2005 11:16:14 PM

Need......more......ranked.......servers......with....decent....ping

7/31/2005 11:31:16 PM

^^yea....2 of em together would be deadly

but still. i cant fire one without them seeing me.

8/1/2005 12:06:21 AM

some tips for using anti-tank:

if you didn't know by now while being in a vehicle.. then there is an anti-tank weapon pointed at you an alarm will go off - this means if an anti-tank guy is standing there taking his time aiming the tank will either flush him out, MOVE, or just die if he is stupid

the best thing to do is to prepare your shot by aiming just to the side of the tank then move it quickly over the tank and fire quickly - this gives little time to move or find where you are hiding

which is the next point - once you fire.. HIDE.. best thing to do is get the hell behind something that the tank won't see you hiding behind if he looks your way. You may be screwed if he is smart and a UAV is in the area.. but it will guarantee you 2 shots 90% of the time if you can fire then hide quick. Placed well this might take him down.. if nothing else it will make him hide or you kill him with the 3rd. Most people hide normally but they run too far into the open so once they fire they can't hide quick enough and I spot their location.. and even if they get hidden before they die I will just wait for them to peak again and pick them off with the gun. Also remember that your general direction will be given by the first shot due to the damage indicator.. so you can expect a smart driver to have the gun facing your way before you pop out again.

Kinda funny that since my last post I played BF2 a little.. I was on Mastuur my last round using a tank and had 5 people using anti-tank just to shoot me down at their spawn. I bring this up because it is another good point to take when using anti-tank.. I was sitting at a loong range watching over a spawn location (we had them pinned to 1 spot). I have never seen so many rockets flying at me at once.. but the sad thing is I could dodge like 90% coming my way. I could easily spin around the corner - repair - and go right back at it. Those things travel relatively slow so you don't want to be at an extreme range.. ESPECIALLY if you tip them off with the alarm.

The best method for a C4 or anti-tank kill is to stalk the tank and catch him when he is involved shooting at something else. That is usually when I die.. especially if I had 2 anti-tank guys shotting from 2 different directions. I've had some servers where I refuse to drive the tank because half their team is using anti-tank or 2-3 guys are highly coordinated to specifically take me out.. (when everyone is running anti-tank I know it makes for easy infantry kills since their gun sucks ass ) but most nights are like tonight where I played 3 rounds and got K totals of 21:3, 32:3, and 22:1. A lot depends on the map.. but even a halfassed tank driver can be a pain without some sort of decent anti-tank guys in a pub server.

OH YEAH... the #1 tank-removal method! An enemy tank!!

*some other final notes:
-don't fight a tank by a supply crate
-don't fight a tank if he has a repair vehicle beside him - blow that up instead
-the stationary anti-vehicle weapons are more deadly than anti-tank weapons
-don't aim at the front of the tank

[Edited on August 1, 2005 at 12:25 AM. Reason : edit]

8/1/2005 12:24:02 AM

^thanks

so dont aim at the front....where on the tank should u aim?

8/1/2005 12:29:13 AM

Always aim at the rear of armored vehicles. Less armor there than at the front. Of course, the weakest point on a tank is its top, but I don't think BF2 hit models take that into account...

8/1/2005 1:41:35 AM

Havent played it in days.

http://bf2s.com/player/44559609/



[Edited on August 1, 2005 at 2:48 AM. Reason : .]

[Edited on August 1, 2005 at 2:49 AM. Reason : oops]

8/1/2005 2:48:18 AM

If you have problems with a tank and I'm on the server flying around SPOT him then run like hell.

(he's about to die, and I don't want to TK you in the process)

and damn I wish I didn't have to go to work and I could just play bF2 all day.

[Edited on August 1, 2005 at 9:35 AM. Reason : .]

8/1/2005 9:33:39 AM

Taking out tanks is usually cake with the anti-armor loadout. You just have to play smart. Aim for the rear or the tracks. Here's a list of weapon vs vehicle that a clanmate of mine found when the game was released. Since the patch I don't know if anything has changed, but I assume it has not.

Quote :

"Infantry Anti-Tank Weapon vs. Notes: Essentially, the infantry AT weapon is a tank shell vs. a tank. Aim as if you were a tank, at the treads and rear. Fighter Jet - 1 Hit Anywhere Bomber Jet - 1 Hit Anywhere Attack Helicopters - 2 Hits Anywhere Transport Helicopters - 3 Hits Anywhere Buggy - 1 Hit Anywhere MG Van/Humvee - 2 Hits Anywhere Anti-Air Vehicles - 2 Hits Anywhere Battle Tanks - 4 Normal Hits, 3 Tread Hits, 2 On-Top Turret Hits, 2 Rear Hits Static Anti-Air Sandbag Defense - 1 Direct Hit Static Anti-Vehicle Sandbag Defense - 1 Direct Hit Spec Ops C4 vs. Notes: One C4 to the rear of a tank and it's gone. As far as I know, nothing in the game takes more than 2 C4. Fighter Jet - 1 Hit Anywhere Bomber Jet - 1 Hit Anywhere Attack Helicopters - 1 Hit Anywhere Transport Helicopters - 2 Hits Anywhere Buggy - 1 Hit Anywhere MG Van/Humvee - 1 Hit Anywhere Anti-Air Vehicles - 2 Hits Anywhere Battle Tanks - 2 Normal Hits, 2 Tread Hits, 2 On-Top Turret Hits, 1 Rear Hit Static Anti-Air Sandbag Defense - 1 Hit Anywhere Static Anti-Vehicle Sandbag Defense - 1 Hit Anywhere UAV Hut - 2 Hits Anywhere Artillery Peice - 2 Hits Anywhere Satellite Dish - 2 Hits Anywhere Battle Tanks vs. Notes: In a tank vs. tank frontal encounter you want to aim for the front portion of the treads, you can get a kill in 2 hits. If you simply aim for the front armor it takes 4 hits; it may have seemed like tanks always take 3 hits because on average, you would get one higher damage hit per encounter. Fighter Jet - 1 Hit Anywhere Bomber Jet - 1 Hit Anywhere Attack Helicopters - 2 Hits Anywhere Transport Helicopters - 2 Hits Anywhere Buggy - 1 Hit Anywhere MG Van/Humvee - 1 Hit Anywhere Anti-Air Vehicles - 3 Normal Hits, 2 Tread Hits, 2 Rear Hits Battle Tanks - 4 Normal Hits, 3 Side (not tread) Hits, 3 Rear Turret Hits, 2 Tread Hits, 2 Rear Hits Static Anti-Air Sandbag Defense - 1 Direct Hit Static Anti-Vehicle Sandbag Defense - 1 Direct Hit Not Worth Shooting Unless it's Already Smoking Anti-Air Vehicles vs. Tanks APC vs. Helicopters Helicopter Cannon vs. APC and Tanks"

I usually play either the Anti-tank or Spec Ops loadout on big maps that have all vehicles. If you are good you can take out helicopters with the anti-tank weapon as well. I used to like tanks and APCs but IMO they are the biggest sitting ducks in the game.


Also, Joshnumbers, press the F keys to switch seats in a vehicle. F1 is driver seat, F2 is gunner or passenger (in buggies it's the rear stand-up gunner), F3 is next passenger, etc.

8/1/2005 10:44:57 AM

in an infantry based maps I love tanks - sitting duck or not - you don't have people like Maugan to ruin your day and if you are smart you rarely die ever.. you can just repair the thing yourself and if the commander is nice he will drop supply crates as well to assist

oh.. and those stats look pretty accurate - I've never looked up the numbers but from experience it seems dead on... even if there are some changes you could still use that to plan with (although if you think about it - most of it is logical for real-world damage.. hit in the rear.. treads.. etc)

ONE last note - 203 and hand thrown grenades are a freaking pain in the ass for tanks at times as well.. if the tank is damaged and you are unloading 203 shells on him - you might honestly kill him off

[Edited on August 1, 2005 at 3:54 PM. Reason : edit]

8/1/2005 3:52:24 PM

No love

8/1/2005 5:24:34 PM

haha if I had something to fly with other than keyboard/mouse I'd be nothing but air and be anti-tank all day

8/1/2005 5:33:40 PM

im surprised there isnt a anti-air kit

8/1/2005 5:45:52 PM

I seriously hate the in-game VoIP... if anyone has a Teamspeak or Ventrilo server they prefer and wouldn't mind us TWWers using when we play - speak up! I'm going to see if the guys who run the Vent I've been using mind if I bring on a few people.

On another note - I think with a bit of practice I could begin to like those TV Guided missles - assuming the pilot is Maugan lol

[Edited on August 1, 2005 at 7:29 PM. Reason : edit]

8/1/2005 7:28:53 PM

actually I need to map a damn voip button. I usually use teamspeak with my friend down in georgia to talk and it usually works much better.

I don't have much time to type when I'm doing loops and evading heatseekers.

The one time I got shot down tonight was when I was trying to say something to breezer

8/1/2005 8:15:44 PM

thnx Opstand, that all sounds correct

8/1/2005 9:46:26 PM

Our condolences to CaptainFiz

8/1/2005 11:15:36 PM

haha that poor guy deserves the purple heart more than anyone....

8/1/2005 11:21:30 PM

score!!!! I fixed my problem and now I can play at 1600x1200 at all HIGH and 2x AA.

8/1/2005 11:26:14 PM

aa rules.

aniscopic filtering or whatever is fucking stupid

8/1/2005 11:30:51 PM

Quote :

"Our condolences to CaptainFiz"

I went from killing him with the laser guided bombs, to killing him with the anti-tank rockets, to killing him with the puny MP5. Between the 3 of us we had to have killed him 15 or 20 times in one round.

I used to have a Ventrilo server set up on my wife's computer that could hold 6 people. I can try to set it up again if you want...

8/1/2005 11:39:28 PM

I think that guy wound up like 8 kills and 30 deaths... at least 20 of those were from us haha.. I know for sure I killed him 7 times after you got done bombing him

8/2/2005 12:02:41 AM

That guy was so stupid. He kept running back to the same tank that I just bombed him in 30 seconds ago.

Easy pickins

8/2/2005 8:53:05 AM

some people just never learn

8/2/2005 8:54:50 AM

Try this

BlackHawk Helicopter Flying fortress

Good Pilot that knows how to use flares effectively
2 Gunners with AntiTank kit (for quicklanding kills after bullet sweeping exposed troops)
2 Engineers in back seats with wrenches out
1 medic in 3rd back seat for quick health booster

I tried this last night as the pilot and we got about 60 kills or assist points along with flag capture points in about 5 minutes before we got shot down. Needless to say even though we got shot down once we dominated the map. Missles that hit us were not effective because the engineers were constantly repairing. Of course the only thing that could destroy us was artillery, but we just remained hovering to avoid that.

Piece of cake way for tons of points in a short time if you have a cooperative team. VOIP helps too.

8/3/2005 3:25:16 PM

sounds like fun..gonna have to try that

8/3/2005 3:27:06 PM

That wont work very long if you have a decent pilot flying against you

I don't even waste missiles on helos anymore.

8/3/2005 3:31:30 PM

there are maps like mashtuur where there is a blackhawk (at a capturable point for either side - starts as US) - and no jets - that is where you see people abusing that strategy all the time

you can get at least 100-150 points if you do this with a good pilot who is a squad leader... I've seen a few friends get 150+ points if they got in for the entire round and never got shot down.. the spawn locations are so close that with 1 good pilot and just 1 good gunner.. you are set

8/3/2005 3:35:51 PM

I had one dude that was camping with the blackhawk right outside a spawn point racking up the kills. I spawned at a different point, ran across the map, put C4 on the windshield of the blackhawk, typed 'FUCK OFF' and went boom.

It was redeeming.

8/3/2005 5:35:55 PM

C4 provides some of the best redeeming and funny moments....

for starters... throwing C4 over walls onto tanks.. up in the air to catch choppers.. fun stuff.. but I had fun with it one time with a griefer:

I had a guy trying to force me to TK him since I had the tank and he decided he wanted it.. just some kid who started talking shit for no reason.. I was just going to sit in it and never move at first.. but then I thought that isn't clever and an enemy could eventually come to the spawn and screw with me (if you know what I mean by tank griefing - the tank driver can't move at ALL or fire or anything without killing the guy griefing you.. so I wouldn't be able to defend myself)

sooo... I get out of the tank - put C4 all over it - and go hide far away where I can watch it and catch a movie coming on TV.... never heard somebody whine so much in my life - the kid would not shutup and he finally got in it... so of course I made sure I waited for him to get way out into the map before I blew him up to waste more of his time *note - this server didn't autokick after 3 TKs so I just sat there for awhile until he whined and left.. didn't bother me any really - just counter griefing

[Edited on August 3, 2005 at 8:10 PM. Reason : edit]

8/3/2005 8:09:42 PM

I have to say this though, at least the door guns are actually useful and effective now. In BFV they were a joke if you were in the air. The only time I used them was on the ground to defend a base or try to shoot down another helicopter.

I should try the engineer trick in the back of the helicopter. I imagine that would work with the Linebacker as well, since the passenger just sits on top with their weapon out.

That reminds me, one of my favorite things to do in BFV was sit in the back of the NVA spawn chopper and toss out timebombs. That is the one weapon I really miss in this game. C4 is good, but the timebomb was awesome. Ultimate suicide bomber weapon. Run up to a tank and set the bomb for 1 second...

8/4/2005 12:04:47 PM

Quote :

"with 1 good pilot and just 1 good gunner.. you are set"

it just seems there are so few good gunners out there.

when i fly, the gunner is silent and there are swarms of guys on our flanks in their perfect view

when they fly i mow them down WHENEVER THEY TURN THE HELICOPTER SO I CAN GET A SHOT. i mean, just turn it, either way i dont care you can change guns so fast and destroy people.

8/4/2005 2:02:31 PM

I think I'm a pretty good gunner. I get so many gunners who hop in with me and then try to kill helicopters with the tv guided missles instead of the chaingun. I mean I'll hover with the gunner's sight (which shows up at the bottom of the HUD) on the other helicopter and nothing...

8/4/2005 2:39:40 PM

I changed my graphics the other day and got in a gunner seat and couldn't see shit.. couldn't aim for shit.. it was just horrible. I imagine a lot of gunners have that problem and/or have a bad ping.. even with great skill if you have either of those problems in this game you will not kill half as effective as you could.

8/4/2005 4:19:04 PM

i assume if you have lag, you must learn to make leading shots

8/4/2005 5:36:25 PM

yeah the sad thing is with their netcode there can be a time where you lag off and on but not consistently one way or another.. so its a total pain.. it is VERY easy to tell the difference if you are on a server where everyone has a relatively good ping and you have a ping of like 20-30... aiming is EASY.. one where everyone is pinging 100 is just annoying

8/4/2005 8:10:38 PM

I was just playing, got the gold medal all from gunning. I got 3 kills with one TV missle at one point.

8/4/2005 11:06:59 PM

so, is this game any fun? or is it like most online games where people just run around, jumping randomly to avoid shots?

8/5/2005 12:17:42 AM

no, its no fun at all. thats why this thread is 15 pages

8/5/2005 12:41:16 AM

lol... there IS bunny hopping in this game because some idiots always do it.. but I've never once seen it help them survive.. in fact it helps to slow them down and make them easier to kill

there is a lot more tactical feel to this game versus BF1... just doesn't feel as random or I would never bother playing it (thats why I hated the first one - unless you played on large teams that were well organized it sucked)

8/5/2005 7:29:46 AM

I love seeing them hop around when im in a tank. I shoot a few bullets just to keep them moving then BANG! I fire the cannon. RIP

8/5/2005 8:22:01 AM

yea bunny hopping in this game doesnt really prove to be useful like in other earlier games. like was said, it kinda slows u down and makes u a sitting duck.

hopping bunnies and sitting ducks

8/5/2005 8:23:09 AM

The game it was the worst in was America's Army, the earlier versions before the fatigue meter. Breezer knows what I'm talking about. Bunny hopping was so rampant it was insane. It can be kind of bad in CS sometimes, but after the first jump it slows you down.

In BF2, I try to jump as little as possible. It takes away a good chunk of your sprint bar and if you are carrying a heavy loadout like anti-tank, you need all the sprint you can get sometimes.

8/5/2005 11:32:31 AM

I hate it when I am in the gunseat of a Black Hawk and the pilot flies straight into the enemies. It is like most people don't realize that in order for me to be able to shoot someone from the side, they have to circle around the enemy.

8/5/2005 12:22:22 PM

worse is when you are the pilot and circle around the enemy just for them to mow them down, and nothing. they just sit there for the ride.

8/5/2005 12:42:57 PM

last game I played online was freaking No One Lives Forever, and it was fun, WITH the right people. I cant stand the jumping around shit, or when people figure out gimmicks that work on the game and just do it over and over... I am definitely more of a stealth/skill/tactics guy... is this game like that?

8/5/2005 1:10:41 PM

u def need tactics and skill for this game. u cant be an idiot and just go blazing along spraying bullets cause u wont hit shit and will prob be killed in a heartbeart..lol.

8/5/2005 1:14:14 PM

so my game just decided to stop working one day. as soon as my game is loaded and its time to choose a spawn point, my game freezes. i cant move the mouse or do anything on the keyboard. i can watch the game unfold before me but i can't move anything. and i've tried everything i can think of. uninstall/reinstall the game, drivers, blah blah. any ideas?

8/5/2005 1:17:37 PM

how does it work, like do you pick a "world" to be in and you are always in that one or is it like Counter Strike where its random people all the time?


In other words, could we all, get on the same one, just for us, all the time

8/5/2005 1:20:41 PM

^ It's like CS in that there are tons of servers all running full of different people on different maps, etc. However, with Xfire, you can join a server that your friends are playing on.

It takes a lot of skill and coordination to do well on a map with good players on the other team. Even if you aren't playing with people you know, it's usually easy to get in a squad with a few others and work together. The game has built in VoIP so you can talk to each other in your squad to coordinate actions. It is one of the most team oriented FPS games I've ever played. Of course you can always go it alone and try to snipe or go stealth and lay C4 or something, but it's much more rewarding to take a spawn point by force with a convoy of vehicles and air support, all going in full speed with weapons blasting.


When I fly the Blackhawk, I pretty much fly it sideways so that the gunner is looking straight ahead. The problem is that most gunners are morons...

8/5/2005 1:55:42 PM