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Kris
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BEU is homosexual, I know that for a fact

I fucked him

[Edited on May 10, 2006 at 1:58 AM. Reason : PS. You might want to get yourself checked btw]

5/10/2006 1:57:45 AM

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fuckin' grizzly adams douchebag

5/10/2006 3:27:16 AM

sublimechica
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"did you see the look on his face?"

5/10/2006 7:28:46 AM

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this page needs meadow

5/10/2006 2:24:24 PM

gface
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Is Paulie having a bad season six or what? har har! One of my favs.

5/10/2006 2:54:15 PM

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5/11/2006 12:47:35 AM

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damn, check out that bling

5/11/2006 1:00:41 AM

arog20012001
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did that recurring article by the NJ writer ever get posted?

5/11/2006 3:53:21 PM

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yeah, I was wondering the same thing

5/11/2006 4:28:44 PM

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Mob life looking less glamorous all the time

Monday, May 8, 2006

WARNING: This column contains major plot spoilers for last night's "Sopranos" episode.

St. Elzear was a French nobleman who died at 38 and who chose to honor his wife's lifelong vow of chastity.

In other words, Tony, Paulie, Chris and the guys spent a good chunk of last night paying tribute to a man whose life they would do anything to avoid.

Not that theirs are much better, frankly. As Tony and Melfi discussed in therapy, people go on scary amusement park rides because they're bored, and the gangster lifestyle is essentially one long trip to Great Adventure. You wait on line for an hour, scream your head off for 90 seconds, then get at the back of another line.

Why do Tony and Chris try to hijack a hijacking? Because it's something to do, something to punctuate the tedium and hassles of a life that's a lot less glamorous than they had imagined. The two get drunk on the stolen wine and the retelling of the story ("We're with the Vipers!") for a while, but as time passes, the booze and the memories both lose some of their, you know, pop. And then it's back to another card game at Satriale's, another collection headache, another day of waiting for the next adventure.

As Tony put it to Melfi in describing his post-coma attitude, "Every day is a gift. It's just, does it have to be a pair of socks?"

At least Old Tony could count on some excitement from his mistresses (before they went nutso on him). New Tony doesn't even have that outlet; while he stands helpless on terra firma, his failed conquest Julianna is too busy laughing her head off on her ride to even notice him.

Over the years, people have complained that this show glamorizes the mob. Whether you buy that or not, David Chase and company are making sure to clean up any mess on the way out the door. These guys have always been pathetic, selfish losers, a fact being hammered home more than ever.

Paulie Walnuts is not a man to be admired. He's a cheap, whiny SOB with a raging sense of entitlement. Even the other wiseguys can't stand him, and when his stinginess puts kids in danger, it gives them a long-desired excuse to shun him. Deservedly treated as an outcast and facing his own mortality with the prostate scare, the only person he can turn to is the Lawrence Welk-loving adoptive mother whom he had cursed out and abandoned. (You'll note he wasn't even using the Jason Barone shakedown money to pay for Green Grove. Maybe he ruined Jason's life for extra cash to spend on the shopping channel.)

Then there's Christopher, who, aside from a gift for attracting beautiful women with minimal self-esteem, has nothing going for him. His Hollywood dreams will never lead anywhere, his position in the Family is the result of nepotism, and even without people like Tony goading him, he'll never have the discipline to stay sober for very long. Oh, and by ratting out Adriana (as seen in possibly the greatest un-deleted scene of all time), he not only murdered the woman of his dreams, but made him so obsessed with her that the memory of her life and death will eventually destroy him. (And if he somehow holds it together, Carm's growing suspicions about Ade will be big trouble.)

A lot of major events happened in this episode -- Christopher's marriage and latest fall off the wagon, Tony and Phil cutting Johnny out of the first of what will be many future secret deals, Carmela's encounter with Ade's mom -- but they were presented in a casual manner, as if these guys are so bored with the business they have chosen that they can't even recognize when something momentous occurs right in front of them.

We met Kelli about five seconds before she and Christopher got hitched. While the series sometimes fumbles character introductions (Ralphie suddenly appeared one day), there wasn't much of a need to know more about Kelli, save that she's a replacement Adriana -- less tacky with the makeup and nails, but just as submissive to her man and his moods.

All these characters are on a ride, all right, but it's not a roller-coaster with dips and curves and loops. It's the baggage carousel at the airport, and they just keep going around and around in circles, seeing the same disappointed faces as they pass, waiting for someone or something to take them somewhere interesting. Pretty soon, that ride's going to crash just like those teacups at the St. Elzear feast, and when it does, the damage is going to be a lot worse than a kid with a bloody mouth.

Some other random thoughts:

Let's light a candle for Johnny Sack -- or, at least, send him some cigarettes -- since his reign as boss effectively ended when Tony and Phil cut him out of the multi-vitamin heist. That's the first step down a slippery slope towards irrelevance.

Jersey hath no fury like a Bacala protecting his family. Make fun of his gut, his clothes or his sensitive side, and he'll just mope. Put his kids in danger, and you and him are going to have a problem, my friend.

Didn't Janice's account of the ride accident make it sound like the Hindenburg explosion?

First there was Tony's Katrina crack in episode four, and now he tells Paulie, "You're doing a heckuva job there, Brownie!" Think the writers are a little peeved about New Orleans?

Christopher's heroin trip felt a little too Travolta in "Pulp Fiction." Was the pooch he became so fond of supposed to be a stand-in for Adriana's crushed-to-death dog Cosette?

Did you catch Artie discussing the food and only the food at Chris' bachelor party? And the wiseguys seemed interested in hearing the specials. Maybe Tony's advice to shut up and cook sank in.

You have to admire the HBO promo people, who manage to make every episode, no matter how mellow it might be, look like a bloodbath from start to finish. The preview clip for this episode included practically every frame of the shootout with the Vipers, then cut from Bacala yelling at Paulie to Janice screaming, "Call an ambulance!" from an entirely different scene.

Of course Christopher got them lost on the way back from Pennsylvania; he was using an inferior map Web site. Doesn't he know Google Maps is the best?

Does the Tony Blundetto estate get a commission every time a wiseguy tells a zeppole joke?


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5/11/2006 4:29:58 PM

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recognise this?

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"Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suite on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got "

5/11/2006 4:38:19 PM

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heroin.

-Trainspotting

I love that movie! I could hear "lust for life" I read that quote

[Edited on May 11, 2006 at 7:37 PM. Reason : sp]

5/11/2006 7:36:51 PM

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Jamie Lynn from the Heidi Fleiss movie:
http://img483.imageshack.us/my.php?image=6977ub.jpg

[Edited on May 13, 2006 at 3:17 AM. Reason : ]

5/13/2006 3:10:45 AM

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fuckin grizzly adams doucebag!


Since they skipped a week with Vito and Cakes, I think they'll go back to that tomorrow night

[Edited on May 14, 2006 at 2:13 AM. Reason : cdsffeds]

5/14/2006 2:13:18 AM

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"Since they skipped a week with Vito and Cakes, I think they'll go back to that tomorrow night"


Well, you can tell because they show a preview of next week’s episode after the show. So, you’re either psychic, or just lucky.

5/14/2006 10:49:24 AM

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I forgot to watch the preview after the show last week, but i just figured they couldnt leave it alone for too long


Hows that book coming?

Its fuckin' slow today!

5/14/2006 12:49:06 PM

Mr. Joshua
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haha

the bottle of vodka that vito drank in the library was labeled "Sknokoff". My roommate caught that and had to rewind the dvr.

5/14/2006 9:20:26 PM

ssjamind
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"Dick Cheney for president, of the fucking universe."

fitting

5/15/2006 1:06:22 AM

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My feet are fuckin icicles!

5/15/2006 2:16:36 AM

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another shitty fucking show

5/15/2006 3:06:05 AM

thegoodguy
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to each his own, I guess

that was probably my favortie episode of this season

5/15/2006 11:08:53 AM

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"I love you too, Johnny Cakes" halhahah

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"Vito can't go home again ... can he?
Sunday, May 14, 2006

WARNING: This column contains major plot spoilers for last night's "Sopranos" episode.

And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain. My friends, I'll say it clear. I'll state my case, of which I'm certain: Vito has lived free long enough, and now he wants to die.

The man is driving back to a place where all his old friends want to kill him, guzzling gin and listening to "My Way" on an endless loop. This is what you would call a suicide mission. And if you're wondering why Vito would bother killing that stubborn New Englander to escape the cops, it's simple: he's ready to die, but he wants to do it his way. Preferably with a big bowl of pasta first.

Vito's not the only one facing an end, though his should be more definitive than most. In the space of one deceptively busy hour, Johnny Sack pled guilty, Tony crushed Carmela's dreams of independence, Paulie revealed that he's battling cancer, Meadow edged closer to dumping Finn, and Tony finally made peace with Janice's role in his life.

David Chase and company have been using these final episodes to give each of their characters a moment or two at center stage before that final curtain. Three weeks ago, it was Artie's turn; the week after that, AJ. Last night, that curtain fell hard on Johnny.

When I wrote in an earlier review that Johnny is the same basic guy as Tony, I was only half-right. Johnny has smarts, a temper and a love of family, but he's also what Tony aspires to be. He's the archetypal gangster, running New York and not New Jersey, dressed to the nines, always clutching his cigarette, calculating and ruthless in a way that Tony can only occasionally be.

Chase has hired a lot of acting diamonds in the rough, and Vince Curatola has shined brightest. A bit player in the first two seasons, he's become an essential part of the show, and it was painful to watch him portray how completely the feds have broken Johnny. In years past, even a few episodes back, he would go nuclear if someone tried to change the terms of a deal the way Tony kept doing. Now he just shrugs it off.

To paraphrase Phil Leotardo, if the feds can do that to Johnny -- can make him commit the cardinal sin of going on record about the existence of La Cosa Nostra -- what can they make Tony do?

Our other key player was Janice, who of all the characters has changed the most and the least since she was introduced. She's not doing yoga and calling herself Parvati anymore, but she's still out for herself every second of every day.

Because Janice is only capable of performing "acts of Janice," the story had to be less about her than Tony's feelings towards her. Janice annoys everyone, but Tony has much deeper reasons for breaking out in hives at the sight of her. That second therapy session -- "Let me tell you, she gets nothing! I got the scars! So it's mine!" -- was one of the most productive he's ever had, and by the episode's end, his resigned acceptance of Janice and all her diva nonsense was another step forward for him.

On the other hand, Tony's still selfish enough to sabotage Carm's business because he doesn't want to have to talk to Meadow. (Really, who does?) Carm rolled over for now, blaming the inspector instead of seeing through Tony's lies, but her ambitions aren't going to disappear that easily. You could see how fixated she was on Angie during Ginny's party.

Over the last few weeks, I've heard people say that they're okay with the low-key tone of these post-coma episodes because they're convinced this is all building to some major fireworks in the final shows of this spring season. I fear that if people are holding out for some explosions in the last two episodes, they'll be disappointed. I think we're going to continue on the same track, at least until the final eight episodes in January, of Tony body and mind healing while everyone around him falls apart.

But what do I know? Maybe Vito gets shot down in a blaze of glory. This is Bon Jovi country.

Some other random thoughts:
-Every time I think I have the show's chronology figured out, an episode like this gives me a migraine. The writers said there would be a real-time, two year gap between seasons, but that doesn't track with things said last night. Season five began in the spring, which is when Sal Vitro first got sentenced to mow Johnny's lawn, and it ended with Johnny and Sal face down in the first snowfall of winter. This season began in early summer and about six months have already passed. Yet when Sal complains about the Sacrimoni job, he says he's been doing it "a year and change." Add that to Tony saying he's only been going to Dr. Melfi for five years, and that the age of Janice's baby only works if two years have passed, and... aspirin, please.

-I'm sure the Vito/Jim displays of affection (the tenderest any "Sopranos" couple has ever shown) makes part of the audience squirm, but that cut from Jim nuzzling Vito to Bacala's model train going through a tunnel (a "North by Northwest" homage) was comic genius.

-Also brilliant: Steve Van Zandt's delivery of "I wish I was there on the courthouse steps to throw acid in his face!"

-Vito's hip complaints were real. Joe Gannascoli's bum hips are the reason why he waddled even after losing all that weight, and he had surgery on them a few weeks ago.

-Can Paulie beat cancer the way his hair has beat the chemo? Junior has his theory that people die of cancer in threes. On this show, Tony and Junior both survived their scares, while Jackie Sr. died of it and Bacala Sr. either died of cancer or a car crash. Not good odds for the guy with the winged hair.

-Tony's enough of a hypocrite to drop "living in sin" on Meadow sincerely, but I wonder if it was just an excuse to get out of that conversation.

-The brothers-in-law from New Orleans were sort of a mirror image of Bacala, with the guy who married the other's (younger) sister-in-law as the one with a spine.

Alan Sepinwall may be reached at asepinwall@starledger.com, or by writing him at 1 Star-Ledger Plaza, Newark, N.J. 07102-1200.

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5/15/2006 12:05:05 PM

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i love his articles

5/15/2006 12:16:57 PM

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Phil is pissed at Johnny Sac for breaking down, at Vito for being brokeback, and even at Tony for what he deems as inaction.

i see him trying to take matters into his own hands pretty soon, and causing an OK Corral or two. either Phil, Vito, or both will dy by the gun this season.

5/15/2006 12:49:23 PM

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"I'm sure the Vito/Jim displays of affection (the tenderest any "Sopranos" couple has ever shown) makes part of the audience squirm, but that cut from Jim nuzzling Vito to Bacala's model train going through a tunnel (a "North by Northwest" homage) was comic genius."


Yeah, I laughed my ass of at that.

5/15/2006 1:23:02 PM

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Vito while he's cooking dinner as Johnny Cakes starts nuzzling up:

"You're gonna have to wait for that"

I laughed hard.

[Edited on May 15, 2006 at 2:21 PM. Reason : .]

5/15/2006 2:20:34 PM

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"I think we're going to continue on the same track, at least until the final eight episodes in January, "


Uh, does this mean there will be episodes next Jan???

5/15/2006 2:36:52 PM

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2007 yes

5/15/2006 2:56:03 PM

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Do you think the cross pen was some sort of transmiter??

5/15/2006 3:49:15 PM

Mr. Joshua
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Sopranos not Alias.

5/15/2006 3:58:40 PM

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I think they are gonna whack meadow for crying.

5/15/2006 4:01:06 PM

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***SPOILER ALERT***

Vito's stunt double talks about the scenes he was in...

http://suburban.gmnews.com/news/2006/0316/Front_Page/004.html

5/15/2006 4:49:22 PM

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""From the back, you'd never know it's not him," Mancini said. "


hahah i wonder if johnny cakes could tell the difference

and that thing about the 35 feet in the parking garage...woah

5/15/2006 5:04:59 PM

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"and that thing about the 35 feet in the parking garage"


?

nevermind. i should have clicked the link first.

[Edited on May 15, 2006 at 5:36 PM. Reason : durrr]

5/15/2006 5:34:42 PM

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that was about the only spoiler in the article so i didnt want to go into detail

5/15/2006 5:48:03 PM

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The scene where Chris' car gets repossesed seems like a cheap way to get Chris some face time in this episode, I wish they had tied that into a reason to fuel his addictions!

5/17/2006 1:11:46 AM

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I can't believe he only paid Johnnie Sack's wife 25 grand for the Maserati

5/17/2006 1:31:07 AM

gface
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easily the worst episode of this season, how do you guys rank it overall compared to other seasons?

5/17/2006 4:58:07 AM

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I thought it was the best episode simply because Vito shot that white guy. I mean COME ON, why would you give Vito such a hard time when he rear ended you!?. Selfish prick

5/17/2006 9:25:12 AM

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""This is a huge year for the character Vito. His character really comes out," he said."


ZING!!!

5/17/2006 10:13:04 AM

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ahahaha

moltisanti mouthing off to that US Marshal was hilarious

5/17/2006 10:20:31 AM

Mr. Joshua
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"I mean COME ON, why would you give Vito such a hard time when he rear ended you!?"


ahahahaha

5/17/2006 5:40:03 PM

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^^^ i loved that line

5/19/2006 9:57:56 AM

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They were showing Brian Cashman at the Mets/Yanks game anf fuckin Vito sits down right in front of him!



Sadly, Johnny cakes was nowhere to be seen!

5/20/2006 2:38:24 PM

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I'm surprised he wasn't waiting for Finn to join him outside Yankee Stadium

5/21/2006 12:39:44 AM

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i was peeping out next week's show on my DVR guide

it listed two weeks ago's episode at 9, last week's episode at 10 and tonight's episode at 11

so that either means tonight is the last episode until next year and the final season, or they are gonna take a sunday off before they show the real finale in 2 weeks from tonight...im not sure what number episode we're on, etc

5/21/2006 7:00:02 PM

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thats what yahoo tv says

[Edited on May 21, 2006 at 7:07 PM. Reason : ]

5/21/2006 7:06:37 PM

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Here we go!

5/21/2006 9:04:53 PM

Mr. Joshua
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shit

so long vito

5/21/2006 9:34:31 PM

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Vito = teh pwnt.

5/21/2006 9:34:37 PM

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