WillD All American 841 Posts user info edit post |
Congrats to Hudson! 4/30/2006 3:39:59 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
damnit I dont want to be a 49ers fan but its pretty sweet to see Hudson and Manny go there. 4/30/2006 3:52:47 PM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
NY Jets = NC State East SF 49ers = NC State West 4/30/2006 3:54:28 PM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
so what's the update for nc state players so far?
list em out 4/30/2006 3:56:36 PM |
Lowjack All American 10491 Posts user info edit post |
Vikings = ncsu north 4/30/2006 3:57:33 PM |
Schmitty All American 982 Posts user info edit post |
TJ Williams to Tampa Bay Rd. 6, 202 overall
[Edited on April 30, 2006 at 4:01 PM. Reason : extra info] 4/30/2006 4:00:22 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
>.<
hate the bucs 4/30/2006 4:01:09 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
tehy have a great tight end now in smith but TJ could start opposite him if they really work on him
could be a good pickup, but hell
GO TJ!!!!!! 4/30/2006 4:03:07 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
Tampa Bay = NCSU south...thats two in the last two years
^he needs to find the stickem he lost halfway through the season for his hands.
[Edited on April 30, 2006 at 4:03 PM. Reason : ] 4/30/2006 4:03:10 PM |
RockyRaccoon Starting Lineup 88 Posts user info edit post |
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2006/draft/breakdowns/by_school/ncstat.html 4/30/2006 4:03:43 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
At least now it's decent teams and not the freakin Cardinals 4/30/2006 4:04:06 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
so uh, florida st. and ohio st. = THE NFL ? 4/30/2006 4:04:09 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Im surprised Brian Clark or Tramain Hall would at least get some mention.
I know Hall is small but he has great speed.
If only those two would have had a QB to throw to them the last 2 years..... 4/30/2006 4:07:53 PM |
dre018 Veteran 367 Posts user info edit post |
^^ with a lil USC and Miami thrown in there
[Edited on April 30, 2006 at 4:08 PM. Reason : ] 4/30/2006 4:08:19 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
I dont even think brian entered his name in the draft. I dont know why, he's got plenty of speed, but I dont think his numbers were good enough to get attention this year, and he doesnt have crazy moves like all of these guys that get drafted these days. Thats really wierd though cause he's got huge hands and will catch anything thrown his way.
Tramain may not have been able to work out since he got injured in the bowl game, but his hips got stiff as hell between his junior and senior year too, and the best part of his game was juking mofos out.
Other thing...Brian is a really smart guy. He's going to have his degree and be fine. He's a hell of a nice guy too, so I wouldnt worry about him. You cant say the same for someone like Derrick Morris.
[Edited on April 30, 2006 at 4:13 PM. Reason : ] 4/30/2006 4:12:08 PM |
monvural All American 558 Posts user info edit post |
so I think we're finished at 6 picks this year. Is there any chance the others who dropped their name into the hat will get called? 4/30/2006 4:37:59 PM |
WolfMiami All American 8766 Posts user info edit post |
I guess D. Morris, and O. Hoyte are the last two shots 4/30/2006 4:38:26 PM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
they are doing a flashback of bad jets choices
its amazing
lol-- losing out on warren sapp and dan marino
[Edited on April 30, 2006 at 5:21 PM. Reason : a] 4/30/2006 5:20:48 PM |
machinencsu All American 2200 Posts user info edit post |
i thought hoyte should have been drafted.
hopefully he wil get a shot as a free agent. 4/30/2006 6:13:44 PM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
is Hoyte a senior? 4/30/2006 6:41:57 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Yes. 4/30/2006 6:42:55 PM |
hunterb2003 All American 14423 Posts user info edit post |
From SI.com
Quote : | "You've got to hand it to North Carolina State, which had three of its defensive linemen chosen in the first 26 picks of the draft -- ends Mario Williams No. 1 to Houston, and Manny Lawson No. 22 to San Francisco and tackle John McCargo No. 26 to Buffalo. But it does beg the obvious question: How in the name of Lou Holtz did the Wolfpack only manage a piddling 7-5 record, including a 3-5 mark in the ACC, with an NFL-quality defensive line?" |
4/30/2006 11:30:50 PM |
The Dude All American 6502 Posts user info edit post |
^ because of jay davis and our O.C. 4/30/2006 11:34:08 PM |
ncsuscooby All American 7151 Posts user info edit post |
not our new OC, just Jay Davis 4/30/2006 11:36:02 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
and marcus stone 4/30/2006 11:50:43 PM |
Schmitty All American 982 Posts user info edit post |
Hoyte got picked up as a free agent by the Vikings
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/state/minnesota/14468462.htm 4/30/2006 11:53:25 PM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
I blame Jay Davis. What a waste of scholarship. 4/30/2006 11:54:06 PM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/526441.html 5/1/2006 12:58:07 AM |
padowack Suspended 1255 Posts user info edit post |
awesome. but it sure is cold up north...hope those dade county boys can run in that cold... 5/1/2006 1:02:03 AM |
Lowjack All American 10491 Posts user info edit post |
vikings = ncsu north 5/1/2006 1:03:20 AM |
jeffshelton All American 864 Posts user info edit post |
nm
[Edited on May 1, 2006 at 1:06 AM. Reason : already said before] 5/1/2006 1:06:34 AM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/526441.html
FUCKING BRIAN CLARK IS GOING TO PLAY WITH BRET FUCKING FARVE WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO???????????????????????????
GG Brian...you deserve it.
[Edited on May 1, 2006 at 2:23 AM. Reason : ] 5/1/2006 2:23:11 AM |
therooster All American 2559 Posts user info edit post |
^Brett Favre plays for Denver? Quote : | "Clark, a 6-foot-3 wide receiver, inked with the Denver Broncos." |
5/1/2006 10:57:35 AM |
therooster All American 2559 Posts user info edit post |
Tramain Hall joins Norm Chow in Tennessee http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/526562.html
[Edited on May 1, 2006 at 11:03 AM. Reason : .] 5/1/2006 11:00:53 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
someone post the espn draft grades 5/1/2006 12:00:15 PM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
damn, for such a deep draft, it's surprising Mel Kiper didn't give any team an A. 5/1/2006 12:02:35 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
bttt
someone post the espn insider grades 5/1/2006 3:45:41 PM |
KyleAtState All American 1679 Posts user info edit post |
Hoyte to the Cowboys......Scout.com has changed him from the Vikings to Dallas 5/1/2006 3:59:07 PM |
bkhardee All American 985 Posts user info edit post |
Arizona Cardinals: GRADE: B I give them an A for the first day and a C for the second day. The Cardinals' QB of the future, Matt Leinart, fell into their lap at No. 10 (I had Leinart as the third best player in the draft). Guard Taitusi "Deuce" Lutui (second round) and TE Leonard Pope (third round) were great picks. Defensive tackle Gabe Watson underachieved at Michigan, and I wonder if coach Denny Green will be able to motivate him. OLB Brandon Johnson and DT Jon Lew could be good backups. The Cardinals didn't address the offensive line on the second day -- I thought they would come away with one or two more offensive linemen.
Atlanta Falcons: GRADE: C You have to factor in the trade that brought them defensive end John Abraham. Cornerback Jimmy Williams will help the secondary and was a good second-round pick. RB Jerious Norwood has great speed, gives them some security and can take some of the load off Warrick Dunn. Adam Jennings will help with the return game and as a fifth wide receiver. D.J. Shockley is a developmental quarterback who may eventually be a serviceable backup.
Baltimore Ravens: GRADE: B+ The Ravens did a really good job of addressing needs effectively. Their first-round pick, DT Haloti Ngata, will help right away on the interior of the line and, they hope, will free up MLB Ray Lewis. Chris Chester will help on the offensive line, and David Pittman is an ideal nickel defensive back. On the second day, the Ravens helped themselves with WR Demetrius Williams, RB P.J. Daniels, TE Quinn Sypniewski and OLB Ryan LaCasse of Syracuse, who will be a good special-teams player.
Buffalo Bills: GRADE: C While it was a reach to take safety Donte Whitner with the eighth pick, he is a great prospect and I like him. Giving up a third-round pick to get DT John McCargo in the first round was a reach. He's a solid player but not an elite one. Cornerback Ashton Youboty lasted longer than I thought but is a very good pick. Safety Ko Simpson and defensive tackle Kyle Williams are solid. Overall, the Bills reached on both of their first-round picks but drafted players who will help the team.
Carolina Panthers: GRADE: C Carolina didn't draft a wide receiver and didn't take a tight end until the fifth round. Taking RB DeAngelo Williams at No. 27 gives the Panthers good security behind DeShaun Foster. Getting CB Richard Marshall makes up for the loss of Ricky Manning to the Bears. The Panthers made some reaches on OLB James Anderson, OT Rashad Butler and FS Nate Salley, but Jeff King could be a serviceable tight end.
Chicago Bears: GRADE: B The Bears traded out of the first round and were still able to get secondary help in Danieal Manning. Devin Hester is a great athlete, but is he a cornerback or wide receiver? Hester will help the Bears in the return game. Dusty Dvoracek will get worked into the rotation at defensive tackle, and I really like the pick of defensive end Mark Anderson in the fifth round. J.D. Runnels could start as a rookie at fullback and was a great find in the sixth round. I was surprised the Bears didn't address needs at tight end and wide receiver.
Cincinnati Bengals: GRADE: C Cincinnati needed a tight end but never took one. CB Johnathan Joseph was a solid first-round pick and OT Andrew Whitworth was good value in the second round, but DE Frostee Rucker was a reach in the third round. LB A.J. Nicholson slid because he has had off-the-field issues but is good with the pads on. Reggie McNeal isn't going to be an NFL quarterback, so it will be interesting to see where he plays. The Bengals also had a couple of insignificant late picks.
Cleveland Browns: GRADE: B First-round pick Kamerion Wimbley will be a perfect OLB in the 3-4 defense, and D'Qwell Jackson reminds me of Jonathan Vilma. Wide receiver Travis Wilson could be a third or fourth option in the passing game. I like RB Jerome Harrison in the fifth round, and the Browns also got really good value in the sixth round with FB Lawrence Vickers and DT Babatunde Oshinowo of Stanford.
Dallas Cowboys: GRADE: B- In the first round, they drafted a very versatile and talented OLB, Bobby Carpenter. Anthony Fasano is a good tight end, but the Cowboys already have Jason Witten, and more importantly, they didn't get the free safety and offensive line help I thought they needed. Skyler Green brings speed to the return game, and I do like the selection of DT Montavious Stanley in the sixth round.
Denver Broncos: GRADE: B You have to factor in the acquisition of WR Javon Walker when grading the Broncos. I wasn't as high on QB Jay Cutler as much as some people were -- Denver took him at No. 11 -- but he is going to a well-coached team. Tony Scheffler is a very good pass-catching tight end, but taking him in the second round was too high. Guard Chris Kuper and C Greg Eslinger are both ideally suited for Denver's blocking scheme.
Detroit Lions: GRADE: C+ I thought I'd be higher on the Lions, but what concerned me was that they passed on Leinart. Ernie Sims (who they picked at No. 9 instead of Leinart) is a good linebacker, and Daniel Bullocks is a good prospect at safety. I also like the pick of RB Brian Calhoun in the third round if they can work him into the rotation with Kevin Jones. Guard Fred Matua was a very good pick, especially in the seventh round.
Green Bay Packers: GRADE: B I gave Green Bay an A after the first day. The Packers had a lot of picks (12), and some were definitely reaches. Linebacker A.J. Hawk, their first-round pick at No. 5, will give the Packers a much-needed face on defense. Offensive tackle Daryn Colledge needs to get stronger and become a better run-blocker. I really like WR Greg Jennings, LB Abdul Hodge and C Jason Spitz. Will Blackmon was both a wide receiver and cornerback at Boston College, but reportedly he will get a chance to play corner initially.
Houston Texans: GRADE: B+ I would have taken Reggie Bush with the first overall pick. But I have to respect the pick of Mario Williams, especially if he's consistent from game to game. DeMeco Ryans at linebacker was a solid second-round pick, while Charles Spencer and Eric Winston will help out the offensive line. With TE Owen Daniels and RB Wali Lundy, Houston did a very good job of sizing up the board.
Indianapolis Colts: GRADE: C First-round pick Joseph Addai (at No. 30) is a good blocking running back, but he is not all that dynamic running the ball. Tim Jennings will be a solid nickel cornerback, and I like the pick of LB Freddie Keiaho in the third round. 5/1/2006 4:46:38 PM |
bkhardee All American 985 Posts user info edit post |
Jacksonville Jaguars: GRADE: C+ First-round pick Marcedes Lewis (No. 28) will get a great opportunity to be the pass-catching tight end the Jaguars need. His UCLA teammate, Maurice Drew, is a good runner and has good hands. He should also help Jacksonville in the return game. DE Brent Hawkins was one of the best defensive ends at the Division I-AA level, and DE James Wyche had great numbers but a disappointing senior season at Syracuse. CB Dee Webb went in the seventh round; he would have been better served staying at Florida for his senior season.
Kansas City Chiefs: GRADE: C I thought the Chiefs would go with a cornerback, but you can't argue with their first-round pick at No. 20, DE Tamba Hali. S Bernard Pollard is a hitter but is questionable in coverage. Brodie Croyle might be the future at quarterback and will be able to learn a lot from Trent Green. I thought the Chiefs would take a cornerback higher than they did (Marcus Maxey in the fifth round). The Chiefs also needed a wide receiver but didn't take one until the sixth round (Jeff Webb of San Diego State).
Miami Dolphins: GRADE: C Cornerback Jason Allen (No. 16), who was recruited by Nick Saban when he was the coach at LSU, has made a great comeback from a hip injury. I was never totally enamored with WR Derek Hagan, but getting him in the third round isn't a bad pick. OT Joe Toledo has a lot of potential but needs some coaching. DT Rodrique Wright's stock seemed to constantly be dropping.
Minnesota Vikings: GRADE: C+ Linebacker Chad Greenway was a very good pick at No. 17, while Cedric Griffin is a solid defensive back who needs to play the ball better. Ryan Cook is a versatile center who could be moved elsewhere on the offensive line. QB Tarvaris Jackson went a bit high, but he has a chance to be the Vikings' future quarterback. DE Ray Edwards struggled as a junior, and I thought he needed another season at Purdue.
New England Patriots: GRADE: B Laurence Maroney, selected at No. 21, gives the Patriots a security blanket at running back. WR Chad Jackson was a nice pick in the second round and could have gone in the middle of the first. TE Dave Thomas has excellent hands, while Garret Mills might be more of a fullback. Kicker Stephen Gostkowski was a reach in the fourth round (I didn't think any kickers would get drafted). New England had a great first day and a good second day.
New Orleans Saints: GRADE: C The Saints got the top player on the board in running back Reggie Bush, but I don't understand the pick of safety Roman Harper in the second round when they needed help at cornerback and linebacker. They didn't take a linebacker, and they waited until the sixth round to get a corner (Josh Lay of Pittsburgh). I do like guard Zach Strief in the seventh round, especially since he could have gone as high as the third round.
New York Giants: GRADE: C+ DE Mathias Kiwanuka was a reach late in the first round, but he will get a chance to learn from Michael Strahan and Osi Umenyiora. Getting WR Sinorice Moss in the second round was one of the best picks in the draft; he could be the deep threat the Giants' offense needs. Guy Whimper is a versatile offensive lineman and could have gone higher than the fourth round.
New York Jets: GRADE: B- I thought the Jets reached late on the first day with LB Anthony Schlegel and S Eric Smith. They did do a good job of building an offensive line with their two first-round picks, OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson (No. 4) and C Nick Mangold (No. 29). RB Leon Washington was a nice second-day pick. Former Missouri QB Brad Smith went on the second day, but I'm not sure where he'll fit in. DT Titus Adams was a really good pick in the seventh round; I thought he could have gone a bit higher.
Oakland Raiders: GRADE C: Safety Michael Huff, their first-round pick at No. 7, and linebacker Thomas Howard will help the defense, while S Darnell Bing made sense in the fourth round. Weber State's Paul McQuistan will help the offensive line next season, and Cornell guard Kevin Boothe was a solid pick. I didn't give the Raiders a high grade because they didn't address needs along the defensive line and at running back.
Philadelphia Eagles: GRADE: B I really like DT Brodrick Bunkley playing next to Mike Patterson on the defensive line. OT Winston Justice and Georgia OG Max Jean-Gilles will solidify the left side of the offensive line for years to come. Chris Gocong was a solid pick, whether they play him at defensive end or linebacker, and Jeremy Bloom will be a great pick once he shakes off the rust from being away from the game. Still, Bloom can help the Eagles in the return game this season.
Pittsburgh Steelers: GRADE: C+ The Steelers have replaced Antwaan Randle El with wide receivers Santonio Holmes (first round, No. 25) and Willie Reid. On defense, getting Anthony Smith at safety makes up for the loss of Chris Hope in free agency. DT Orien Harris could turn out to be one of the better Day 2 picks.
San Diego Chargers: GRADE: C CB Antonio Cromartie (first round, No. 19) could be a great player and has tremendous upside. The Chargers needed a cornerback, and Cromartie is worth the roll of the dice. OT Marcus McNeill is good, but he plays tall and could have trouble with quick, smaller defensive ends. I have no idea what San Diego is getting in QB Charlie Whitehurst -- he's great one week and average the next. I am surprised the Chargers didn't go after a wide receiver, which was one of their bigger need areas.
San Francisco 49ers: GRADE: B+ I gave them an A on the first day with tight end Vernon Davis (at No. 6) and OLB Manny Lawson. DE/OLB Parys Haralson, who has good pass-rushing skills, was a solid second-day pick. Penn State QB Michael Robinson landed with the 49ers, but it will be interesting to see what position he ends up playing next season. Lawson's teammate at NC State, Marcus Hudson, could be a versatile safety in the NFL.
Seattle Seahawks: GRADE: B They had only six picks, but I like what the Seahawks did with each of them. You can't argue with CB Kelly Jennings in the first round and DE Darryl Tapp with the 63rd pick. Seattle did a good job of addressing needs early and followed that up with Ohio State OG Rob Sims and USC fullback David Kirtman.
St. Louis Rams: GRADE: C+ I like some things the Rams did -- like taking CB Tye Hill at No. 15 -- but they gambled on DT Claude Wroten in the third round. They got two very good tight ends in Joe Klopfenstein and Dominique Byrd, although Byrd dropped because of concerns about his knees. Jon Alston is a fast outside linebacker, while ILB Tim McGarigle will help out on special teams.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: GRADE: C+ Tampa Bay went offensive line with its first two picks: OG Davin Joseph and OT Jeremy Trueblood. Joseph might have been high for the first round, while Trueblood is tall and sometimes plays upright. Wide receiver Maurice Stovall really improved under coach Charlie Weis and was a very good third-round pick. Alan Zemaitis is a solid cornerback who has a knack for the ball.
Tennessee Titans: GRADE: B I would have taken Leinart, but Vince Young will be a very good quarterback. RB LenDale White will be highly motivated coming in as a second-round pick. Don't forget that he's reunited with Norm Chow, the former offensive coordinator at USC who holds that position with Tennessee. Calvin Lowry was a very underrated safety at Penn State.
Washington Redskins: GRADE: C The Redskins had only one pick on the first day, and that was used on Rocky McIntosh in the second round (No. 35 overall); McIntosh will come in and start at weakside linebacker. Last year, Washington traded picks in this draft to take QB Jason Campbell last year, and they traded their third-round pick this year to get WR Brandon Lloyd from the 49ers. 5/1/2006 4:47:04 PM |
msb2ncsu All American 14033 Posts user info edit post |
They really wen tout on a limb with those draft grades... best is a B+ and worst is a C.
OH, here is a really good article on Mario... hadn't seen it yet. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/texans/2006-04-30-williams-pledge_x.htm
Quote : | "The biggest surprise concerning Williams? The defensive end's dream day nearly didn't happen.
Williams pledged to quit football three years ago in order to provide for his sister, her young son and unborn baby after Sgt. Nicholas Hodson, 3rd Battalion, 2nd Marine Division, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade was killed in a Humvee accident during Operation Iraqi Freedom on March 22, 2003.
It turns out Williams is in the best possible position to fulfill his promise after signing his new contract because his sister urged him to fulfill his football promise.
"The war started on the 19th and Nick died on the 22nd near Nasiriyah," Michelon Hodson says.
"After Nick passed, as soon as they told Mario at college, he came to my grandmother's house where I was five months' pregnant and my oldest son was 15 months.
"Mario touched my hand and said, 'Missy, I'll give it all up. I'll quit football and I'll work at McDonald's. He said, 'I'll take care of Marius and your baby.'
Hodson, 26, fought back tears as she spoke.
"I said, 'Mario, if you want to do something for me, then you go and be the best you can be and you make that big money and you will take care of us,' she says. "He was willing to give up his dream for something I needed."" |
5/1/2006 4:56:48 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
how did the panthers get a C rating but the fucking bears had a B???? 5/1/2006 4:59:57 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
Clark and Hall signed, this is great news. 5/1/2006 5:07:52 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
we just put a lot of guys into the NFL. this is only good news. congrats to them all.
hope everyone makes their respective team 5/1/2006 5:10:42 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
^^ with who 5/1/2006 5:12:36 PM |
WolfMiami All American 8766 Posts user info edit post |
hall signed with the Titans 5/1/2006 5:19:31 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
houston got wali lundy?
that ain't too bad
i mean it ain't reggie bush
but it's decent 5/1/2006 5:27:00 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Congrats on Clark, Hall, and Hoyte.
Hoyte to my Cowboys is nice since Dat Nguyen retired, he might make the team.
Clark/Hall could have been drafted if they had a QB who could get them the ball the last 2 years! 5/1/2006 5:41:42 PM |
KyleAtState All American 1679 Posts user info edit post |
Cowboys signed LB Kai Parham from UVA ....sounded promising until I saw his 5.05 40 time 5/2/2006 12:36:11 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
thanks bk 5/2/2006 1:20:36 AM |