lol, I think it would be SWEET to have the Peach bowl on lock down.. IMO

12/6/2006 3:52:39 PM

lol

you wouldn't though after 4 years of thinking this was our year and then we didn't quite get it and went to the peach bowl again; it would be seen as a failure rather than a success

12/6/2006 3:54:47 PM

I see what you mean...kinda like when we went to the Tangerine Bowl after the Gator bowl....

I knew when our players called out the NC at the Gator bowl that something bad was afoot.

12/6/2006 3:58:55 PM

according to the BC boards, it looks like we are def. getting tom o'brien

someone on there stated that they just heard from a local radio station in arizona that he was off the board b/c he was coming here.

also, this comes from the BC site:

Quote :

"Coworker who's a good friend of mine played DB for NC State under Amato....he says TOB is a done deal "

12/6/2006 4:25:42 PM

Damn, O'Brien came out of nowhere

12/6/2006 4:29:32 PM

haha my grandpas was a DE for State and he thinks we need to shut down football and focus on academics.

he has just as much credibility on that being true as any other former players cousins ex wife's nephew who once roomed with TA.

You wont know who we looked at, who we offered, who all we interviewed and who all we even said no to.

thats how this firm works, thats how he runs things and thats how it will stay...its all a big mystery unless u are one of the few on the inside or know Murphy and convince him to spew it...which hasnt happened in a few weeks...he's pretty tight lipped these days/..

12/6/2006 4:30:16 PM

GD it, contact Mike Leach ASAP before the U hires him.

12/6/2006 4:31:45 PM

Anyone interested should go look at the BC boards; they must know something we don't because seriously every single one of their threads is about Tom O'Brien coming here

I really don't want him as our next head coach; if this is true I seriously hate Lee Fowler

http://mb4.scout.com/fbostoncollege19873frm3

[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 4:34 PM. Reason : .]

12/6/2006 4:33:49 PM

James on statefans just started a thread stating that the scout publisher for BC has said that Fowler and O'Brien are merely working out contract details, and it is a done deal....

we shall see, i really don't know much about the guy, but seems like the hire would make a much needed media splash, considering we are the red-headed stepchild of the off season coaching searches.....

12/6/2006 4:37:03 PM

Packpride doesnt have it leaked quite yet

dont get your panties in a wad.

12/6/2006 4:37:25 PM

SPORTS RADIO HAS JUST ANNOUNCED THAT TOM O'BRIEN IS OUR COACH

12/6/2006 4:40:27 PM

Micro update, check pack pride again.

If this is true I'm going to be a fulltime Badger's fan.

FUCK THIS NOISE.

12/6/2006 4:40:39 PM

any reason why they hate him?

12/6/2006 4:41:30 PM

I'm pumped about Tom O'Brien if its true!!!!

12/6/2006 4:42:06 PM

We hired another school's Sendek

Awesome.

GO BADGERS.

12/6/2006 4:42:39 PM

Quote :

"SPORTS RADIO HAS JUST ANNOUNCED THAT TOM O'BRIEN IS OUR COACH"

what sports radio?

12/6/2006 4:44:29 PM

WFAKE

your local n00b source

12/6/2006 4:45:05 PM

am i missing something? TOB had BC ranked all season in our own conference, with BC resources. clearly not everyone's first choice, but why is everyone so against him?

12/6/2006 4:45:22 PM

http://www.firetob.com

12/6/2006 4:47:26 PM

^^ wondering the same thing

who would wanna play at a private school with shitty shitty shitty facilities in the cold northeast?

i mean me personally, i would be fucking happen with 7-9 wins every season

[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 4:47 PM. Reason : .]

12/6/2006 4:47:31 PM

^i am against him b/c i see a celing with him that is what it was at BC; which is 7 to 9 wins a year.

i know that sounds awesome right now, but our goal is an ACC championship. I don't think he can get us there. Gator Bowl would be sweet right now, but after four straight gator bowls we would be hating him b/c we will always be "that close".

I just think that Johnson provides so much more upside; the dude has won BIG whereever he has gone and done it fast as well.

i'm telling you there is a reason that not one fan wants him to stay; he can't get them to the next level

[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 4:49 PM. Reason : .]

12/6/2006 4:48:30 PM

^^^ damn, just about to link that myself

[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 4:48 PM. Reason : ^]

12/6/2006 4:48:31 PM

I'd rather have PJ, but O'Brien is a very solid hire.

I can't get too excited about him, but he's a huge step up.

Still want PJ

12/6/2006 4:49:27 PM

Because TOB is Amato without any flare or excitement.

12/6/2006 4:49:27 PM

BC wants PJ instead of O'Brien. I want to grab PJ before they can, because I think he has a greater upside, having been so good at a much more restrictive school.

12/6/2006 4:50:00 PM

Quote :

"i know that sounds awesome right now, but our goal is an ACC championship."

so we chase him out in 6 years, i still don't see the problem =P

really though, maybe the cap has more to do w/ boston college and less to do w/ TOB, it's not basketball, football takes money.

12/6/2006 4:50:08 PM

No seriously

boot Fowler.

Get rid of this assclown.

12/6/2006 4:50:36 PM

Quote :

"really though, maybe the cap has more to do w/ boston college and less to do w/ TOB, it's not basketball, football takes money."

fair point, but I would say that if there was ever a year that they were going to win the ACC, then this would have been it. Best QB in the ACC, all of the traditional powers way down this year, and they still couldn't get it done. They simply lose too many close games, and that sounds all too familiar to me.

Quote :

"No seriously boot Fowler. Get rid of this assclown."

and this is seriously true. if this hire of o'brien is true is say fowler has to go. not b/c it is that bad of a hire, but i mean it does look kinda bad that we are taking a divisional coach from them. even if they want him gone, that won't be the national perception.

[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 4:54 PM. Reason : .]

12/6/2006 4:53:07 PM

He got out coached by Amato

Nuff said.

Go badgers.

12/6/2006 4:53:35 PM

I swear to god, if this shit is true I'm gonna gut fowler myself.

12/6/2006 4:54:19 PM

Quote :

"He got out coached by Amato"

joke?

hail mary != outcoached.

12/6/2006 4:54:31 PM

I think I'm gonna go ram my head into the wall.

12/6/2006 4:55:24 PM

^seconded

12/6/2006 4:55:50 PM

sigh, i guess i just don't get it.

sounds like a good hire to me. he's obviously not bill cowher, but..

12/6/2006 4:57:12 PM

mediocre coach.. I would have liked to see Paul Johnson, but this will be better than chuck

12/6/2006 4:58:41 PM

The only reason I think his ceiling might be higher here (Thinking out loud here)

1) We have better facilities
2) We have a better gameday atmosphere... by eleventy-fold
3) He will get better bowls here

About #3... how many times has BC had 10 win seasons and gone to the muffler bowl? Does this hurt his recruiting not getting the 'big bowl' exposure? BC fans are horrible at traveling and they get skipped over. That won't happen at State... Us, Clemson, and FSU are 3 schools notorious for bringing fans to games

Quote :

"sounds like a good hire to me. he's obviously not bill cowher, but.."

He's a safer hire than PJ. He's a very very good coach who is a proven winner with much less resources. I don't think he has the upside of PJ, though.

I'm happy with it only if PJ was asking for a ridiculous amt. of money or said he wasn't interested

[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 5:00 PM. Reason : ]

12/6/2006 4:59:14 PM

Quote :

"He got out coached by Amato Nuff said. "

couldnt say that two years ago can ya?

12/6/2006 4:59:18 PM

Dude

The fact that BC was one of the teams we beat this year when they had THAT kind of a team shows this guy is the Herb of football.

Go Badgers.

12/6/2006 4:59:36 PM

^^^fair points

but this looks all too freaking familiar to me: stats from his tenure at BC:

Quote :

"TOB All-Time Versus Temple, Rutgers, UConn, I-AA Schools, and any non-BCS program other than BYU or Boise State: 38 Wins 5 Losses TOB All-Time Versus All Other Schools: 37 Wins 39 Losses Tom O'Brien all-time against the AP Top 25: 7 wins 21 losses Tom O'Brien all-time against teams that finished the season in the AP Top 25: 4 wins 22 losses Tom O'Brien all-time against Miami, Virginia Tech, and Florida State: 3 win 15 losses TOB All-Time Conference Titles (9 years at BC): 0"

[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 5:00 PM. Reason : ^^]

12/6/2006 5:00:13 PM

Quote :

"3) He will get better bowls here"

We go to good bowls here?

12/6/2006 5:00:31 PM

Can you read?

12/6/2006 5:01:28 PM

barnes is a done deal

tob is not our coach yet, simmer down

12/6/2006 5:02:09 PM

Quote :

" Titans' Chow pulls out of NC State search ESPN.com news services A week after saying he hadn't even been contacted about the North Carolina State coaching vacancy, Tennessee Titans offensive coordinator Norm Chow has withdrawn his name from consideration for the job, ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported Wednesday. Chow was the Wolfpack's offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach in 2000, fired coach Chuck Amato's first season at his alma mater, but left to join the staff at Southern California. Chow and University of Tennessee offensive coordinator David Cutcliffe were rumored to be on the Wolfpack's coaching wish list. Sources told ESPN.com's Mark Schlabach on Tuesday that NC State was focusing its search on Navy coach Paul Johnson. NC State athletic director Lee Fowler has said he will not comment on the search until it is complete. Amato was fired Nov. 26, one day after his team lost its seventh straight game to end the season. The former NC State linebacker was 49-37 and led the Wolfpack to five bowl games in seven seasons but was just 25-31 in the Atlantic Coast Conference and never finished higher than fourth. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report."

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2688642

[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 5:06 PM. Reason : s]

[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 5:06 PM. Reason : s]

12/6/2006 5:05:36 PM

Where is cathocutie?

12/6/2006 5:06:26 PM

Swofford is gonna be pissed at us.

12/6/2006 5:06:30 PM

Sporting News Radio, TOB for NCSU.

12/6/2006 5:09:52 PM

fuck this

12/6/2006 5:15:21 PM

Fowlered.

12/6/2006 5:16:53 PM

nvm

[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 5:22 PM. Reason : nvm]

12/6/2006 5:18:26 PM

gg fowler,

insult Chow by not even contacting him

WAY TO F*CK UP OUR CHANCE AT GETTING THE BEST CANDIDATE WHO ACTUALLY WANTED TO COME TO THIS DISORGANIZED SH!THOLE OF A PROGRAM

12/6/2006 5:20:05 PM