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"There's speculation about Michael Jordan and Bryant finally coming together in Charlotte. But any deal that would work for all parties would probably have to include Raymond Felton, Adam Morrison and Gerald Wallace, and it's not clear that would get it done. Plus, what would that leave Charlotte with? Bryant, Jason Richardson and Emeka Okafor. And if the Bobcats are including Wallace in a trade, they have to wait until Dec. 15."

10/17/2007 1:29:47 PM

i dont think the lakers are going to get anything near that good for kobe, so there's no way we'd give up all that. 2 of those 3 players maybe.

its not that kobe's trade value isnt high, but teams cant really afford to ship off that type of package at this point.

10/17/2007 5:56:53 PM

LOL the bobcats got a rap song about them now

It's pretty bad, but not terrible

http://www.myspace.com/tbrowisdom

10/17/2007 11:31:51 PM

could be a lot worse

i'm a fan of themed songs too though...they played the old Vinny Testaverde song the other day by "Hoodie Allen"

10/17/2007 11:39:24 PM

I'm a big fan of the new court...beats the old orange scheme IMO

Here's a pretty good look of it from the other night

10/18/2007 7:24:58 PM

yeah that looks pretty good

and the Hawks unis just look stupid

10/18/2007 9:48:04 PM

i think they look alright

10/18/2007 10:58:39 PM

thats actually from this morning...it was used as a community tie-in for area schools so that students with good grades could go to watch the game. i remember they did that last year too. its gotta be tough tryin to get yourself psyched and warmed up at 10-11am...

10/18/2007 11:40:42 PM

i woulda gone but i had an all day training session

10/19/2007 6:32:08 AM

yeah last saturday one of the first things i noticed was the new court and its defintely less of an eye sore

and btw fuck the bobcats for forcing me to buy my two $275 preseason tickets to a fucking 10:30am game on a fucking weekday

10/19/2007 10:57:56 AM

If we didn't trade Kobe Bryant with Vladi Divac 10 years ago
Charlotte would be Bobcats and deep in playoff every year...
possibly championships too.

10/20/2007 10:50:13 AM

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"Charlotte would be Bobcats and deep in playoff every year... "

ehhh ... what?

You mean Charlotte would be the Hornets still, and deep in the playoffs every year ... i think

10/20/2007 12:32:47 PM

great deductive reasoning there

10/20/2007 12:38:01 PM

man i just saw a sportscenter highlight where morrison appeared to really bust his knee up

10/21/2007 1:18:11 AM

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"The Charlotte Bobcats might not feel the full extent of Saturday's 113-93 preseason loss to the Los Angeles Lakers until Sunday. That's when second-year forward Adam Morrison is scheduled to undergo an MRI on his left knee, according to The Charlotte Observer. The Bobcats were trailing 77-61 when Morrison attempted to defend Luke Walton on a drive to the basket and crumpled to the floor in severe pain while clutching his knee. Morrison, who averaged 11.8 points in 78 games last season after being taken third overall in the 2006 draft, was helped to the dressing room with 5:23 left in the third quarter and did not return. His injury was initially diagnosed as a sprain, as reported by the newspaper. "

great, just great

10/21/2007 11:01:09 AM

awesome, now we most likely have to wait another year to determine if Morrison is a bust.

sweet.

10/21/2007 11:08:48 AM

update is that it is a torn ACL, out for the season

10/21/2007 9:44:14 PM

fake injury, he's being paid to sit so the bobcats can bench the worst player in the NBA without admitting they screwed up

10/22/2007 10:09:48 PM

So, the one time he tries to play defense, he ends up being out for the season.

Well, here's to hoping for a full recovery, and that he doesn't hang out with Sean May too much. We don't need him coming back weighing 450.

10/23/2007 2:09:25 PM

Brezec penciled in as the starting center

10/24/2007 9:40:56 AM

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"An opposing team's scout sizes up the Bobcats This team has too many unknowns. They have an unknown coach in Sam Vincent -- and I mean really unknown. He coached one year as an NBA assistant last season with Dallas. I can't imagine they're going to be good enough to make the playoffs because none of the teams that made the playoffs in the East last year have suffered significant drops in talent, while Boston is a lottery team that got significantly better ... This is going to be either a really good or really bad experiment with Sam. I'm not opposed to taking a chance on new people rather than recycling your head coach from the same group of candidates. But when you take a chance on somebody who is a complete unknown, it had better work out. The Jump Man [minority owner Michael Jordan] himself has not had great success being a leader of a team other than when he was on the floor ... So why hire Vincent? I don't know if it was because of finances, or if Michael thought Vincent was somebody he could manipulate -- which would be very interesting if true, if Michael was effectively overseeing the team from up in the skybox. I know nothing about Sam. But there has to be some substance to the guy, because for a former NBA player to go overseas (to Africa and Europe) to coach men and women for a decade, that's something you don't do unless you really want to accomplish something ... There are so many weaknesses on this team, starting with Raymond Felton, who I think should be a backup in the league. I don't think he's good enough -- a little too offensive-minded, a little slow. I know he was regarded as a fast player when he came out of North Carolina, but when I watch him I don't see him making enough plays, and he looks on the slow side. He's more of a power player than a speed player, somebody who is stronger than he is fast. He uses his body, he gets inside, but then he doesn't get to the rim as much as he pulls up. He loves to pull up for jumpers. Look, I understand it's hard to argue with a guy who averaged 14 points and seven assists, but my gut feeling is that if he's your starting point guard, then you have a below-average team. But if he's your backup, then you've got a high-level team ... I would think they're going to miss Brevin Knight as their backup point. He was more of a vocal leader on that team, and also he was a little more dangerous. When you see Felton shooting 40.7 percent from inside the three-point line and 33 percent outside it, that kind of inconsistency tends to invite the defense to collapse and make you earn your points. Brevin was more dangerous in transition and in the pick-and-roll, where he could get to the rim every single time. Taking a veteran off a young team with very little leadership will hurt on a day-to-day basis, though it's also fair to say that Brevin's absence could force those other guys to grow over the long term by forcing more responsibility on them ... Jeff McInnis is going to be their backup. He's a Charlotte native, which always seems to be important to this franchise. He doesn't have the greatest reputation. But they must be OK with him after spending [four] months with him last season [after acquiring him from New Jersey]. He competes, he plays hard and he challenges people. If you want to be a tough team, you've got to have people like that, though again you have to be worried about a guy who's been on a lot of different teams like he has ... It will be interesting to see what kind of style they play for Vincent. They were in a lot of games the last few years. There wasn't a lot of flash on that roster and they had to grind it out playing the Bernie Bickerstaff way, which was to never let them off the hook. He coached them the same when they were up 20 or down 20. Bernie's defensive style was that you'd better defend your own man. Because they knew they had Emeka Okafor back there protecting the rim, it allowed some of them to get a little careless defensively on the perimeter. It's funny how few defenders actually take advantage of having a good shot blocker behind them ... I don't know if they're talented enough to play a faster style. Did Bernie hold them back or did he get the most out of them? I think the latter is true. I'm sure Gerald Wallace and Jason Richardson will want to play fast, but Emeka Okafor, Primoz Brezec and Matt Carroll aren't transition players. If you look at their roster as a whole, it has no single identity ... Look at the problems they're having marketing that team in Charlotte. I don't think you can market a city like that to hip-hop, because the tickets are being bought by corporations and families. But they also screwed up their own TV network, and then they couldn't get the right cable package to televise their games. So they didn't exactly get off to a good start reintroducing themselves to the fans there after taking over from the Hornets ... Now it looks like they're trying to win over the fans by finally spending the money to bring in Jason Richardson as a legitimate NBA scorer. But can he carry a franchise in that way? He's never been an All-Star. But there's no doubting that he's an upgrade for a team that has never had a consistent scorer and shooter. Richardson has changed his game a great deal in six years. He used to be nothing more than a slasher and a transition two-footed-jumping dunker. He's become a three-point shooter and a very quick-shooting perimeter player who can score off the dribble and off catch-and-shoot. He's not afraid of taking the big shots, which was another thing they needed desperately. A lot of times it was like a hot potato around that place at the ends of games because they basically had four or five guys who were all average or above-average players, which meant no one knew who should be trying to win the game. At least now Richardson will be that designated guy, though he's going to find that it's harder to get open looks now that he has fewer weapons around him in Charlotte than he had in Oakland ... The biggest disappointment on the team has to be Adam Morrison [who is expected to miss the season with a torn knee ligament]. The game looked too fast for him as a rookie last year. The thing I hear -- and this really surprises me -- is that he doesn't work enough on his game, that he puts in the effort during practices, but when practice is over, he's gone and he does not put the extra work into his game. He was really, really struggling to get shots last year. I think he needs to be the kick-out guy, where you reverse the ball to him and give him a chance to set his feet before shooting. He cannot put the ball on the floor: He's a charge or turnover waiting to happen. He may eventually have to find his niche as a pick-and-pop player, or he may even have to bulk up and move to power forward someday, which I know sounds crazy. But it's hard for me to envision him learning to put the ball on the floor because everybody else in the league looks so much quicker and stronger. He has a long way to go ... Another guy I bet they were worrying about -- even before he was lost for the year with microfracture knee surgery -- was Sean May. I wonder how much he really loves the game. Maybe the worst thing to happen to him was staying in North Carolina, because there he'll always be the Tar Heel. It might have been beneficial for him to get out of there and have to prove himself all over with a new team that didn't care so much what he did back in college. He always has weight issues ... But Wallace is a bright spot for them, a fringe player who has become a day-in, day-out contributor and probably the best player on their team. Look at the variety of options he creates: He can score in transition, shoot the three, post up in the block, slice to the basket off the dribble. It's shocking to see how complete his game has become. He competes, and he's more prideful than I would have imagined him being as a raw athlete coming early out of college. He blocks shots, he gets to the free throw line. While he isn't a pure three-point shooter, it's another phase of his game that you have to deal with. Plus, he produces steals as a very good defender with good length and size. Sometimes he doesn't make good decisions, and he will cheat, which can lead to some breakdowns. But athletically he is disruptive ... Okafor is going to be a solid NBA player -- and I mean solid, nothing special. He has some limitations, and yet he gets the most out of his game every night as a defensive presence, a shot blocker and a rebounder. He's an adequate low-post scorer, and I don't see him getting a great deal better offensively. I see him playing at this level the next 10 years. And that's no knock: What's wrong with a guy hitting a double-double every single night? He's getting everything out of himself that he can. But he just doesn't have the scoring mentality, and the proof is that his team doesn't go to him a lot down there because they know what he can and can't do ... Walter Herrmann came on at the end of the year because I think they realized he's a guy who has to play minutes and work himself into the game. You can't just put him into the game and get instant offense from him. But overall I see him as a marginal NBA player who doesn't have enough variety to his game ... Carroll was another resurrection, coming up from the D-League. He's a very good catch-and-shoot guy. You can shut him down with lot of attention, but if you forget about him, he can hurt you ... The bottom line is that I don't see them going anywhere unless Sam Vincent has one of those magical first-year coaching things where he comes up with an unorthodox approach that catches everybody by surprise. Otherwise they're still going to be a team of young players that doesn't have a lot of upside. "

10/26/2007 11:18:09 AM

if that guy used another set of three dots to end that last paragraph, i think he would've broken the all-time record for dot usage

10/26/2007 11:39:19 AM

decent read

10/26/2007 11:48:15 AM

Four things will continue to haunt this franchise for the next decade.

1. Coming into the league a year too late and missing the '03 draft class. We would have had the 4th pick and our choice of Wade or Bosh.

2. Having the Magic take Howard number 1 when they had already decided to pick Okafor; only a last minute push from the scouts got the front office to change their mind.

3. Winning the final game of the 04-05 season, putting us into a tie with New Orleans with 18 wins. this put us into a coin flip situation with them for the 4th pick, which they won and took Chris Paul while we got Felton. We also had the chance to trade the 5th and 13th pick that year to Utah for number 3, where we could have taken Paul or Deron Williams (we would have taken Paul.)

4. Having the third pick in one of the worst drafts of all time. We got Adam Morrison; the third pick in four of the five years prior would have netted us Deron Williams, Ben Gordon, Carmelo Anthony, or Pau Gasol, or Al Horford if we got that pick this year.

[Edited on October 26, 2007 at 11:59 AM. Reason : x]

10/26/2007 11:58:52 AM

Quote :

"We also had the chance to trade the 5th and 13th pick that year to Utah for number 3"

there were rumors but i don't think utah ever wanted to do that

otherwise i agree

10/26/2007 12:00:11 PM

Actually I should have said Portland wanted to trade with us for the 5th and 13th

They had the 3rd pick and traded it to Utah for the 6th pick, the 27th pick and a future first rounder

10/26/2007 12:07:42 PM

also we shouldve traded May to New Jersey for the 17th pick last year

but i think that wouldnt have gone through cause theres no way in hell May wouldve passed his physical

10/26/2007 12:08:44 PM

Yeah NJ actually wanted him in that 2005 draft but we took him at 13 so they took Antoine Wright at 15

Didn't really work out for either team

I was yelling it when it happened, and its even more apparent now: We should've taken Danny Granger.

14 and 5 last year with 82 games played

10/26/2007 12:14:19 PM

Granger or Gerald Green...although if we had gotten Green we might not've done the J-Rich deal

10/26/2007 12:17:26 PM

i just hate we might be waisted good JRich, Gforce years

hopefully Felton will improve this year and they will all get to know each others game on the court so next year we can make noise

10/26/2007 12:19:50 PM

If we had another big man who was a good defender and rebounder and at least adequate on offense, we'd really have a chance to get to the next level

Not even a really good player, just someone like Udonis Haslem, Drew Gooden or Chris Wilcox would help us out tremedously.

10/26/2007 12:27:37 PM

season 4 you are clear for takeoff

10/31/2007 10:05:07 AM

anybody else going to the game tonight? i'll be there, wilin as usual

11/2/2007 3:43:46 PM

Was planning on it but other shit came up.

Definitely in for Phoenix next week, even though they'll stomp us.

11/2/2007 3:51:00 PM

i want to go

to bad im not near charlotte

11/2/2007 4:55:23 PM

found this link at realgm

http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia-live/nb...051201.asx

11/2/2007 6:17:39 PM

did he just refer to Yi as a "European player"?

11/2/2007 6:17:52 PM

jesus

how fucking bad can an NBA team possibly be at free throw shooting?

11/2/2007 8:41:21 PM

fairly bad

at least we're 1-0

"noo dont win we need the draft pick!" at what point in the season should we commence that stuff

11/2/2007 8:43:03 PM

Hopefully not till at least March this year

and we shot free throws worse than Tom tonight

Remember Tom?

11/2/2007 9:00:52 PM

just got back from the game. it was a pretty good atmosphere late in the game...hopefully if they can string together some wins and look like a contender, they can convince some of these fair weather charlotte fans to fill up the rest of those empty seats. j-rich was a little rusty, but he wanted the ball at the end of the game, which is huge. gerald wallace had some amazing dunks, and felton actually hit his 3s. the refs made some stupid calls, but you cant argue with 43 free throw attempts. now just hit 75% of those and we can win comfortably instead of goin down to the wire.

11/2/2007 10:19:37 PM

tom was an excellent basketball player

11/2/2007 10:50:06 PM

how the hell does an nba player go 3-13 from the FT line.

11/3/2007 3:58:44 AM

well he's never been good at free throws, but he's never been that bad either. hopefully it was just a fluke, as even jrich was missin clutch free throws.

11/3/2007 10:29:46 AM

81 more wins til we shatter Chicago's record

11/3/2007 11:31:10 AM

For those of yall that went, how often did we go to small ball (moving Okafor to C and Wallace to PF)?

That seems to give us our best 5 players on the court (Felton, Richardson, Carroll, Wallace, Ok)

11/3/2007 2:55:28 PM

i'd say we probably played most of the night with a line-up with only 1 true big man in, mostly cause primoz was in foul trouble most of the night. we had okafor at C or hollins at C with hermann at PF a few times. i'd like to see more of okafor at C and hermann at PF some more. hermann has yet to really get into a rhythm, but it'll come. i dont think he's quite as comfortable gettin the ball in the post...or at least it didnt look like it last night.

the line-up i'm hoping ends up clicking is felton, richardson, wallace, hermann, and okafor with carroll as solid 6th man (woulda been morrison...i really felt good about him in this role for this season. oh well)

11/3/2007 3:04:19 PM

I could really deal with Primoz never seeing a second on the court.....

11/3/2007 3:05:37 PM

primoz is about as useful as Chubby

11/3/2007 3:09:43 PM

ahaha...a teen wolf reference......classic

they really dont want to use primoz, but they wont another big body in there, and hollins hasnt proven anything yet. vincent has been pleading with the front office to get him another big, but so far no luck.

11/3/2007 3:12:22 PM