^^I've heard that in-game before, like these people:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTocPBgyYwA

11/25/2008 11:18:16 AM

theres a spot in one of the goldrush levels where if you are on D and put a sentry on this ledge above the tunnel leading from the offense's base, itll decimate everyone unless its killed by an uber'ed person. (pretty much impossible to kill it unless you are ubered)

11/25/2008 11:26:01 AM

http://www.teamfortress.com/

Next class pack will be scout
updates to engineer buildings and spies will be able to recharge cloak with ammo

12/13/2008 12:24:24 AM

to clarify - the minor spy and engy changes came out this week, but the scout pack is still a while away

12/13/2008 12:51:18 PM

^^^I've got some stickies with your name on them. One sentry is hardly everything-except-uber proof.

12/13/2008 1:12:55 PM

Also if you know anybody on the fence about this game, it is currently on sale for $10! Pretty amazing deal for such a great game. Only got it 3 months ago, but it has been worth every penny at $20!

12/13/2008 2:45:05 PM

Can someone please add Vix to the TWW group?
http://steamcommunity.com/id/vgenther

I made her an account and gifted her some games while so many were on sale.

1/1/2009 11:01:47 PM

So I bought the orange box.

I play this. Play with me.

2/2/2009 7:50:48 PM

I play a few times a week. add me as a steam friend and we can give it a go. I'm on the tww steam group

2/2/2009 9:17:58 PM

We're already friends.

Two people play on my account, me as CHK CHK POW and one of my friends who currently plays as "MR. POSITIVITY"

2/4/2009 1:36:18 AM

Who's excited about the scout update?

Bonk!

2/19/2009 8:55:17 PM

I haven't played this in months... don't think I even bothered unlocking all the Heavy stuff when it came out.

Might try out the scout-pack though. Anyone know if shooting a person breaks the stun, or if stunning them hard enough basically amounts to an easy (easier) kill? ...Though even a <1-second stun from close range would set you up well for a simple two- or three-shot scattergun kill. One-shot on the squishy classes.

[Edited on February 19, 2009 at 8:58 PM. Reason : .]

2/19/2009 8:57:32 PM

they've been rather sparse on details, which has led some people to believe that these are fake updates and it's really going to be the spy pack instead

valve has specifically said that they didn't want any stun/knockout weapons in their games before, but they may have just changed their mind

I'm sort of on the fence, but I have my doubts about the 'spy update' theory at this point

2/19/2009 10:39:48 PM

i hear if you equip the baseballs you get no double jump? fuck that mang.

2/20/2009 1:17:46 AM

I'd trade the double jump for the chance to stun an ubered pair. Must be all that added weigh from carrying those baseballs around.

2/20/2009 1:25:50 AM

true, depends on the situation.

2/20/2009 1:50:30 AM

It pretty much turns the scout from an offense-based objective grabber to a defense-based... uh... anti-special-shit defender...

Could even make a good spy-test... a real ally isn't going to get bonked, and a stun would be nearly as obvious as being on fire.

[Edited on February 20, 2009 at 1:57 AM. Reason : .]

2/20/2009 1:53:12 AM

especially if there's a little animation, like stars around the head or something

it would make the scout more versatile

2/20/2009 1:29:55 PM

update is out! it's the scout, all the spy stuff was conspiracy theory bullshit

2/24/2009 10:43:07 PM

But praise to all real and imaginary gods: they fixed the facestab! I've been praying for that for months. The other spy stuff they added is pretty neat too.

2/24/2009 11:11:18 PM

as far as i am concerned, if they fixed the motherfucking facestab glitch, it was just as much a spy update as a scout

2/25/2009 9:10:55 AM

Yeah if they fixed facestab then I'm going to have to play some tonight. I've been playing L4D lately so maybe it's time to get back to TF2 for a bit.

2/25/2009 1:34:09 PM

two things

this game is fun right?

i still never pulled the trigger on buying it but i want to


and

where can i get it cheap...i remember seeing it for like $12 dollar bucks a while back

2/25/2009 1:41:48 PM

Right now, it's $9.99 through Friday. Honestly, if you have a computer that run this, it should be an automatic purchase.

2/25/2009 1:45:14 PM

Copping this this evening.

2/25/2009 1:52:25 PM

i meant for 360

2/25/2009 4:14:38 PM

I've been playing L4D while waiting for the scout update and now I can't help but right click trying to melee people when they get near me in TF2.

[Edited on February 25, 2009 at 5:46 PM. Reason : .]

2/25/2009 5:46:33 PM

The weapons and weapons selections suck in this game. I don't see how on earth this game is popular as it is.

2/27/2009 7:49:02 PM

That's because you're maybe dumb?

2/27/2009 9:04:31 PM

What sucks about it?

2/27/2009 9:06:23 PM

^^ , ^

Hahaha

The weapons suck man, what more is there to say. Oh, and the load-outs are stupid. unless I missed something there is not one default character with just a automatic assault rifle as primary weapon.

2/27/2009 9:30:47 PM

there are like 9 different classes... which means more than nine different weapons. Which is 3 more than in Left4Dead total, for example.

There's a difference between weapons sucking and you sucking at using them.

[Edited on February 27, 2009 at 9:39 PM. Reason : .]

2/27/2009 9:39:28 PM

^^Ok, you're just stupid, and that's the way it is.

2/27/2009 11:52:03 PM

To be fair, the weapons really aren't that great. The only ones with especially good medium/long-range accuracy are slow as fuck (rockets, medic gun, other slow-traveling projectiles). Sniper excluded, though even it could be argued to be "slow" in terms of charging it up during scope time, and ect... But there's balance. There is no "best" weapon (except for unlockables and some melee weapons, there's barely even any "better" weapons), unless you've got a playstyle that tends towards a certain one.

However, that's part of the point. If any class in the game had a CoD4-style M16, the game would immediately become completely imbalanced. The kind-of-suckiness (compared to weapons in other shooters) is there to make you play as a team for objectives and not just whore the (non-existent) assault rifle class for the sake of easier kills. TF2 does not play like a standard shooter (beyond the basic "here is weapon: shoot weapon at enemy" aspect), nor is it supposed to.


Summary: The weapons are all pretty mediocre compared to their counterparts in other games, which makes them all worth using at some point, depending on the situation. Regardless, if you're trying to play TF2 like a normal shooter, you're also pretty damn stupid. There is a reason it has no mid-long range assault rifle, just as there is a reason "Team Deathmatch" is not a game option.

2/28/2009 6:20:42 AM

^ great post.

2/28/2009 9:13:55 AM

yeah, halo/CoD4 fanboys should just be pyro and stick to W+M1

the other classes actually require thought and strategy

2/28/2009 10:45:06 AM

Baseball bat = heroic weapon.

all others fall before it

2/28/2009 12:28:30 PM

^^^Yes, I don't see where the appeal would be with "great" weapons...

3/1/2009 9:07:33 PM

bttt, SPY UPDATE OUT TODAY


haven't played yet, and I don't know what's been added, though.

5/21/2009 11:15:57 PM

the new random weapon drop system is lame as fuck. they WoWified the game.

5/22/2009 12:13:48 AM

Weapon drop?
What?

Elaborate please, I don't feel like joining an actual game and getting sucked in for hours... it's too late at night.

5/22/2009 12:16:48 AM

rather than getting the new weapons when you have X number of class achievements the weapons are randomly "dropped"

you could be playing as a soldier, kill a scout, and when you die you'll get the new sniper bow

or, more likely (as evident from my time playing after the patch) you'll get a duplicate copy of a weapon you already have

I'm find with the new system, but I don't want to have to keep deleting identical copies of weapons to keep my "backpack" from filling up

5/22/2009 12:19:03 AM

The new weapons aren't tied to achievements or not. They are randomly dropped to players in game. ALL of the weapons or dropped. For example, I just played for an hour and a half and it dropped me a backburner, which I earned through achievements a long time ago.

In a full 24 man server, while I was there, only two new weapons got dropped.

Lame as fuck.

5/22/2009 12:19:31 AM

so... it adds shitty identical copies of things to your "backpack"? I figured they were going to do something new and different once the backpack system appeared, but that's just retarded as implemented now. Especially if identical weapons won't stack.

You can still spawn with weapons you have already unlocked, correct? And if you pick up something new, it doesn't automatically change you to the thing you just picked up, right?

[Edited on May 22, 2009 at 12:23 AM. Reason : .]

5/22/2009 12:22:37 AM

Right. Nothing really changes on the old weapons. You can still use them, but now you might have duplicates in your "backpack".

5/22/2009 12:23:42 AM

Well... I'm at least glad to see that they've stopped tying the achievement system to things that are supposed to be side-grades instead of pure upgrades, but a random you-may-or-may-not-unlock-this-at-any-time system really isn't that much better.

[Edited on May 22, 2009 at 12:29 AM. Reason : damn now i'm incredibly tempted to play but i have shit to do tomorrow]

5/22/2009 12:25:19 AM

don't play
they're going to officially explain the unlock system tomorrow, and they may change some bits

people are pissed right now. I wouldn't mind so much if it didn't bother to tell me that I found things I already have.

5/22/2009 12:34:16 AM

Hmm sounds interesting. I was so excited for TF2, having been waiting for the damn thing for like 10 years, and I really loved it. Once the achievements things started coming out though my interest rapidly dropped to the point where I haven't played the game in 6 months to a year. If I can get the weapons without having to toil through all the achievements that would definitely make me want to play more.

5/22/2009 10:29:12 AM

^ agreed. the kritzkrieg is awesome (my friend has it), and i really don't want to bust through 24 achievements to get that bullshit.

5/22/2009 10:50:14 AM

^^that's the thing, I don't like having to toil through achievements to get the weapons either... which is why the most obvious solution is to just give everyone the new weapons all at once.

5/22/2009 12:08:08 PM