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"Squatting less than you deadlift is indicative of weak hips."

^^ there are other reasons this could be happening...body type is the first that comes to mind


seriously though, get off your high horse

[Edited on June 23, 2011 at 12:42 PM. Reason : ]

6/23/2011 12:42:09 PM

maximus is a really minimus troll

6/23/2011 12:57:06 PM

Did Greg glassman go over the weak hips on day one or two of the thousand dollar seminar?

And was that before or after he FAIlED out of BUDS?
Do they have a bell you can ring at x-fit affiliates to symbolize the quit of its founder?

Seriously, I was just saying...do some glute bridges or rack pulls and your hip strength will go up making your squat supass your deadlift.

@BHS...since 2000.

6/23/2011 1:11:38 PM

What will it take to prove to you no one gives a shit about your opinion or advice?

6/23/2011 1:21:05 PM

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"I am 6', 210. I bench 375, squat 425, deadlift 460, and clean/jerk 250. "

not trying to add fuel to the fire, but why is your bench number so close to your squat/deadlift strength? Do you think Crossfit promotes lower body endurance and upper body strength, or have you always had a strong upper body compared to your lower body?

I know that my legs suffer when I do a lot of endurance work, and there's not much I do other than an elliptical that might be considered upper body endurance work.

6/23/2011 1:24:37 PM

because I took about a 4 year hiatus from all leg training. I still did the typical beach muscle, half-ass look in the mirror shit...basically a lot of bench, triceps, shoulders and biceps. only when I got back into Crossfit did I start training my legs again. I have a lot of catching up to do with my lower body from those years of neglect.

6/23/2011 4:11:12 PM

I don't give a patoot about how people train. Do crossfit, be a greg glassman worshiper, at least you do something But it is just what you said about "beach muscle" that is the problem with cross fit. You rip on guys who are not in your little collective. So a body builder who does cardio six times a week for an hour per session is not as good as a guy who can do 1/4 body weight deadlifts? GTF out with that. Most serious bodybuilders are stronger and in better shape than any douche I've ever met from an xfit. Or mocking specific training? A defensive end who weighs 295 lbs but squats 600 raw and incline benches 405 and runs a 4.8 forty yards isn't as fit as a guy who can do some ring dips? That is complete and total elitist bull n

And don't get me started on team ROC. Reality of combat? Are you fucking serious? What is real if there is no threat of imminent death? They may be good fighters, and in great shape, but don't ever compare pugilism with towels and trainers to combat.

[Edited on June 23, 2011 at 4:54 PM. Reason : Units]

6/23/2011 4:52:50 PM

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"I don't give a patoot about how people train"

So did someone PM you or something asking you to come in this thread and start trolling?

6/23/2011 4:56:27 PM

I love doing beach muscles. one of the main reasons I workout is to look good naked. but there is a problem if that is all you do (as I was).

you are the one with the chip on your shoulder provoking response.

6/23/2011 5:43:40 PM

if you want to look good naked, then squat deep.

6/23/2011 5:46:39 PM

I have good squat form.

did heavy front squats tonight followed by 10x100m sprints. legs are toast

6/23/2011 5:55:40 PM

I picked up some TRX straps last week and these things kick ass when mixed into a crossfit workout. Combine the straps with some kettle balls and you can wear yourself out in a hurry....

6/23/2011 10:36:35 PM

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"And don't get me started on team ROC. Reality of combat? Are you fucking serious? What is real if there is no threat of imminent death? They may be good fighters, and in great shape, but don't ever compare pugilism with towels and trainers to combat. "

dude its a marketing name, they dont mean your gonna go out there and die in a cage and any adolescent aged person knows that

i had to laugh at that bit of trolling, making sure to get everyone involved, 'perciate it. I dont see where Team ROC really came up.

[Edited on June 24, 2011 at 8:57 AM. Reason : r]

6/24/2011 8:55:08 AM

Just finished my third out of six intro course and I can tell an enormous difference already. In the first class I was about dead after the warmup and finished second to last in the WOD. Today I finished first in the WOD by like two minutes. Granted it was a pretty easy workout compared to some of the real crossfit workouts but I can definitely see a lot of progress.

6/25/2011 11:21:24 AM

WIll it be on ESPN2?

7/5/2011 5:25:12 PM

Did Team RJ today, even with teams it was absolutely brutal (three people teams). I can't imagine doing this as a regular workout.

5 rounds for time:
Row 1000 meters
5 Rope Climbs
50 Push ups

7/23/2011 9:59:32 PM

I am looking for a gym or program to join for the month that I have left in Raleigh. I looked at the crossfit raleigh site and it is pretty pricey. Can anyone tell me if it is worth it for a month, and for the $$?

7/25/2011 5:15:20 PM

^ I would look at it as the sum total of what it costs for a 6 month contract plus the initial fee. When I went there I did 6 months at a cost of about $900 IIRC. At the end of that 6 months I was 25 lbs lighter and saw huge increases in strength. My calves and quads were visibly bigger, my arms, shoulders, and traps were visibly bigger, my chest was bigger, etc. My cardio was through the roof. The net impact was that I could fight heavy surf all day, wakeboard all weekend, or snowboard all week without running out of steam.

In addition, they will teach you proper mechanics on all the major lifts. After working out at Forged Fitness I felt comfortable walking into any gym, stacking plates on the bar, and doing my own workouts without fear that I was going to do something wrong or looking like a n00b. For me the end result was worth the $900 or whatever. I planned to go back last winter and do it again, but I was in a car wreck that killed any chances of lifting for a few months. There is just no extra time for me in the summer, but I may go back this winter if everything is clear with my back.

[Edited on July 25, 2011 at 7:45 PM. Reason : s]

7/25/2011 7:44:23 PM

^^Pay $5, go to planet fitness and squat Monday, benchpress Wednesday, and do stiff legged Deadlifts on Friday. Do 5x5 for each. Throw in a few (2) assistance exercises for each at 3x10. Run sprints tues and thurs with a long run Saturday. You will be stronger, in better shape, and have more bang for your gym buck than elitist crossfitters.

7/25/2011 11:00:59 PM

ELITIST
CROSSFITERS



[Edited on July 25, 2011 at 11:12 PM. Reason : l]

7/25/2011 11:12:09 PM

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"I am looking for a gym or program to join for the month that I have left in Raleigh. I looked at the crossfit raleigh site and it is pretty pricey. Can anyone tell me if it is worth it for a month, and for the $$? "

if you want to join a CF gym for a month, pick one that doesnt have the initiation fee...

forged fitness in Cary does not. i think if you join forged in N Raleigh they do.

7/26/2011 11:12:32 AM

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"but I was in a car wreck that killed any chances of lifting for a few months"

I didnt like where this sentence was going. Good luck recovering and getting back to it.

I am thinking of joining the box on six forks. Does anyone belong to that gym?

7/26/2011 11:49:15 AM

Yeah, I'm still not lifting. I swam a ton in the spring and started back with bodyweight exercises (lunges, air squats, pushups, situps, etc.) earlier this summer. I try to work out 3-5 times a week, but I'm not going heavy with anything.

I've tried a few sets of dead lifts, hang cleans, and push presses but it just doesn't feel like the right time yet. I'm lighter and stronger than I was last winter, but still having some shooting pain down the back of my leg when I walk up hills (Sciatica) that I don't want to aggravate.

7/26/2011 12:08:35 PM

Yeah, take it easy. I think that's one of the great things about x-fit is that it allows you to scale and replace workouts with something similar that might not aggravate an injury.

7/26/2011 1:01:16 PM

^yeah, because no other workout allows you to substitue at weight. it's not called the conjugate method or anything.

bodybuilders ALWAYS do the same lifts for the same reps
Westside powerlifters NEVER do different workouts. they only squat EVERY DAY!

lets see, just for ME Lower body there are: squats, front squats, zercher squats, jefferson squats, sissy squats, box squats, high box squats, low box squats, overhead squats, hack squats, split squats, pistol squat, squat jumps, (and then multiply each by 3 with chains, bands, and weight releasers) (then multiply by neutral stance, wide stance, narrow stance, arched back, rounded back) (then multiply by power bar level, olympic bar level, neutral bar level) (and then multiply by safety bar, power bar, sissy bar, EZ curl bar, buffalo bar, football bar, and fat bar) dead lifts, sumo dead lifts, deadlifts arms outside legs, deadlifts arms inside legs, 1 arm deadlifts, dumbell deadlifts, romanian/dimmel/stiff legged/neutral stiff legged/wide stiff legged deadlifts, rack pulls, high rack pulls, low rack pulls, lunges deficeit lunges, ad nauseum.

LOL. only crossfiters would be so arrogant to think that they invented changing exercises for workouts.

7/26/2011 6:59:24 PM

we get it dude. you dont like crossfit.

7/26/2011 7:22:59 PM

^^

from your own damn gallery...


[Edited on July 26, 2011 at 8:11 PM. Reason : nonpremie]

7/26/2011 8:10:19 PM

I'm a month in and I am loving it. My only complaint is that sometimes my shortness is a disadvantage. I couldn't do burpee pullups this morning because I couldn't reach the lowest bar well enough to incorporate them for timed sets . And also it makes my hips hurt a lot because they suck, but that has been getting a little better.

7/27/2011 6:12:04 PM

I think everyone hates burpees.
I just hate them a little bit more than everyone else.
0 burpees in a year and a half for me.

I forgot to mention G.O.D that I'm pretty sure Forged Fitness still does a free week if you want to give it a shot. You'll know after a few trips to the gym if it is right for you.

[Edited on July 27, 2011 at 8:15 PM. Reason : l]

7/27/2011 8:13:33 PM

I like burpees when they are over.

Side note: Is it normal to call them burpees with no pushup at the bottom and super burpees with the pushup? I have never heard that before but that is the terminology they use at the Cary place.

7/27/2011 8:22:00 PM

Maximus is the strongest individual on this entire site, as evidenced by his willingness to post how much he enjoys lifting heavy things and then putting them back down.

7/27/2011 8:24:33 PM

^^ Never heard that

A burpee is typically chest and thighs touch the floor then up to a jump, perpendicular to the floor

7/27/2011 9:09:08 PM

Yeah that caught me a little off guard. My first day in we got to burpees and someone asked me if I knew what they were. I said yes, and they started doing them without the pushup and I kind of went o.O and they said what I was thinking of were super burpees. I was like, no, but OK.

[Edited on July 27, 2011 at 9:20 PM. Reason : I think you know I know what a burpee is, Mike ]

7/27/2011 9:19:18 PM

Did Jackie for the first time today:

1000m row
50 thrusters 45lbs
30 pull ups

did it in 13:18...nothing to brag about by any means, the rowing is what really did me in

And then after we had 100 double unders for time, not even going to post my time because it was awful but I was pretty pumped that I strung together 28 in a row.

8/4/2011 7:44:08 PM

Jackie is one of the worst WODs ever...Each component has you wanting to break up the reps just a little (or slow...rower), but you MUST NOT.


Tried benching yesterday and only got up to 195 x 5....ha (not that I'm worried)
Power Cleaned up to 205

then 5 rounds
15 cal, rower
15 burpees

9:27



night session

AMRAP 15
40m Sled pull, bodyweight (175lb)
5 Muscle-Ups
10 Wall Ball, 20lb ball @ 10 ft target

6 rounds + 40m sled pull + 1 MU

[Edited on August 5, 2011 at 5:36 AM. Reason : ]

8/5/2011 5:36:26 AM

I know you don't like wall balls but they don't look that bad to me. Granted I haven't done them yet and they will probably destroy me, especially if you say they suck haha. Would you compare them to smash balls? I like those as long as the reps aren't too high, we had a cash out Monday with 50 of them for time and around 35 it started getting pretty rough.

8/5/2011 9:35:06 AM

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"That is complete and total elitist bull"

Just perused this thread for the first time in a while and caught this gem from maximus. Holy pot.kettle.black. Bunch of cross-fitters must have run the train on his girlfriend.

8/6/2011 11:50:26 AM

It's not hypocritical for two reasons...

1) I encourage others to train, not be the worthless weaklings they are

2) Crossfit only encourages you to do Crossfit, which makes you good at Crossfit; nothing else. They'd have you believe all other training methods don't work.

8/6/2011 1:09:47 PM

Of course it's not hypocritical coming from maximus. He's always right no matter he says. Hasn't everyone figured that out by now?

8/6/2011 1:24:53 PM

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"Of course it's not hypocritical coming from maximus. He's always right no matter he says. Hasn't everyone figured that out by now?"

No need to feed the troll...



Yesterday:

For time:
21-15-9
Power Snatches
Smash Balls
Ring Dips

Terrible time, around 16 min. My lack of endurance is hurting my times big but I can definitely start to see some improvement. Have a feeling that after a few months I could get that down under 10 minutes without much trouble.

Today:

AMRAP 20 min
Push press, 10 reps
10 KB Swings, 1.5 pood
10 Box jumps, 24 inch box

6 Rounds. Glad tomorrow is a rest day.

[Edited on August 6, 2011 at 1:26 PM. Reason : .]

8/6/2011 1:25:42 PM

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"No need to feed the troll..."

anything I say feeds it so might as well have some fun

8/6/2011 1:29:09 PM

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"anything I say feeds it so might as well have some fun "

Very true, and in that case...

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"2) Crossfit only encourages you to do Crossfit, which makes you good at Crossfit; nothing else. They'd have you believe all other training methods don't work."

You say don't work as if there is one end all be all goal that every person is trying to achieve. Obviously if you want to be a power lifter or body builder then crossfit isn't the workout you should pursue. If you want to get in shape and have fun doing it, crossfit is a great way to do it.

I have been in good shape using other methods, mainly power lifting and adding some cardio, and those methods worked great but I enjoy doing crossfit more. To each their own....oh wait, I do crossfit so I am not supposed to say that.

8/6/2011 1:36:54 PM

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"2) Crossfit only encourages you to do Crossfit, which makes you good at Crossfit; nothing else. They'd have you believe all other training methods don't work."

My brother-in-law has been playing the best rugby of his life since starting Crossfit. He pretty much attributes it all to Crossfit.

My sister has also been in the best shape of her life since doing the same. She had tried pretty much everything until that point.

I'm sure you can lift more than them though.

8/6/2011 4:24:26 PM

Bill and caroline? Yeah. I can lift more than both of them. Caroline is a female and it wouldn't be fair, but the 350 LB deadlift is impressive.

Bill is my hooker and I don't feel it would be right to compare against a teammate. But, since he is 6 inches shorter than me, yes, more than both of them. But, Bill is my #2, and I would go to hell on a rocket for that man.

Small world, ain't it?

8/6/2011 5:49:22 PM

Well they're both Crossfit fanatics and you obviously have a good amount of respect for the both of them...but not for Crossfit? Maybe it's just the current "fad" that Crossfit is going through that brings with it a lot of people who aren't really serious about working out (although I don't think you can be serious about Crossfit and not be serious about working out).

Just trying to figure out this bad taste in your mouth about Crossfit.

8/7/2011 3:30:11 AM

Maximus AND THIS THREAD HAVE BEEN CRUSHED!!!

[Edited on August 8, 2011 at 5:03 PM. Reason : .]

8/8/2011 5:02:34 PM

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"Bill and caroline? Yeah. I can lift more than both of them."

I also think you missed my point. I knew you could lift more than either of them. But you said:

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"Crossfit only encourages you to do Crossfit, which makes you good at Crossfit; nothing else."

What does your weight training make you good at other than being able to lift more weights? I guess it could make you a better rugby player, but Crossfit did the same thing for Bill. What exactly is all your weight training helping you accomplish in life?

8/8/2011 5:15:16 PM

The workout is what it is...some people like it, others don't. That is fine. At least it's something. But, the Greg Glassman worshipers (and him) who claim there is no other way really piss me off.

I just strongly feel there are some dangerous aspects of the program, that people who are not familiar with other programs, that could seriously injure them or give them bad habits.

I don't like high rep Olympic work, it's pointless. As is a kip pullup. Otherwise, most of the workouts are pretty solid, it's not really the program, it's more the 10% who swear you can never be fit unless you do crossfit.

And you know as well as I that CBA would be fit no matter what she did. BA also. They are the exception, not the rule.

8/8/2011 5:29:01 PM

^you didnt answer his question really.

8/8/2011 5:32:42 PM

^ He didn't...but that's alright, because I see that this:

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"it's more the 10% who swear you can never be fit unless you do crossfit. "

is where the problem lies. And there are at least 10% of people in every category of weight training that acts like this. I would just say you need to a better job at not letting those people get to you. You're obviously very strong and in great shape doing what you do...and there are Crossfit people that are the same way. I've switched up the way I work out a hundred times over the last eight years...and I've pretty much stayed around the same level of physical fitness for the majority of that time.

and...

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"And you know as well as I that CBA would be fit no matter what she did. BA also. They are the exception, not the rule."

True...but my sister has reached a different level of fitness (combination strength and endurance) over the past couple years that I've never seen from her before. And it's not from effort...because she's always been a beast in the gym.

As for Bill...I obviously haven't known him as long, but it comes straight from the horse's mouth about the affect Crossift has had on his rugby play.

And I don't even do Crossfit. It's just what I've heard and seen from them in the past few years (and other people of course). I think your Crossfit hate is a little ridiculous.

[Edited on August 8, 2011 at 6:46 PM. Reason : .]

8/8/2011 6:45:11 PM