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ScHpEnXeL
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reinstall the graphics drivers manually. then theres something in control panel about performance you go to and let it run some tests..then it'll turn it on for you

or that's what i had to do anyways

6/2/2009 3:06:15 PM

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Yup, need to have a proper graphics card ... those Intel Integrated Graphics cards don't support Aero ... because they suck.

6/2/2009 3:06:17 PM

Noen
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^Actually, most Intel chipsets support the full Aero experience in Win7.

I would HIGHLY advise that you NOT upgrade the drivers from whatever comes preinstalled with Windows 7, unless Aero is off/broken out of the box. I've had to roll-back the Beta Intel video drivers multiple times (Intel drivers SUCK BALLSSSS).

6/2/2009 3:12:28 PM

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^Oops, you're correct, I was wrong:
http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/cs-023606.htm#8
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"Intel will support the Windows Vista Aero desktop theme beginning with the Intel 945G/GM Express chipset and Intel 965 Express chipset families, as well as with future desktop and mobile chipsets."


The more you know.

6/2/2009 3:21:32 PM

Noen
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^ you are complete right on this point though:
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"... because they suck."


Avoid intel graphics like the plague.

6/2/2009 3:29:15 PM

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"Yup, need to have a proper graphics card ... those Intel Integrated Graphics cards don't support Aero ... because they suck."


he has a MB unibody. they are nvidia chipsets not Intel Integrated Graphics

[Edited on June 2, 2009 at 3:34 PM. Reason : .]

6/2/2009 3:33:40 PM

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installing windows 7 in virtualbox on my MBP... we'll see how this goes.

6/2/2009 3:40:06 PM

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^^correct. and to further clarify, i just downloaded the latest driver off the nvidia site and installed it and aero worked fine after that. win 7 said it had installed it on its own but gave me like a 2.0 rating on the performance index under graphics. after installing that latest drive it's at 5.0 which is still my lowest but high enough to get aero working

[Edited on June 2, 2009 at 3:40 PM. Reason : asdf]

6/2/2009 3:40:18 PM

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so windows 7 will allow all (or most) of my current programs to keep working right? (x64 version of 7)

6/2/2009 3:55:46 PM

ScHpEnXeL
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yup. i've had much better luck getting some stuff to work on 7 than Vista

6/2/2009 4:08:22 PM

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Windows 7 Gets Official Release Date: October 22
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=15312

6/2/2009 6:07:02 PM

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"installing windows 7 in virtualbox on my MBP... we'll see how this goes."


the OS works great! I'm running it in Parallels 4.0 on my MBP unibody. My only complaint is that the rest of the Mac OS X becomes a little slow even though I have Parallels optimized for Mac OS X and not the VM. (Windows 7 x64)

6/2/2009 6:23:37 PM

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I couldn't get 7 to install on Parallels - it kept locking up immediately after the first screen of the installer.

This was with the RC version, too.

6/2/2009 6:25:08 PM

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odd. thats the version I'm running as well. In fact I actually have both the x86 and x64 installed and working in Parallels 4.0

6/2/2009 6:26:52 PM

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I'm pretty sure v4 is the version I bought when I got my MBP. Maybe there's a software update for it or something. I'll have to look into this.

Did you boot directly from the ISO file or did you burn to disc first?

6/2/2009 6:29:11 PM

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I went directly from the iso.

6/2/2009 6:30:32 PM

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i've also been using the RC with Parallels 4 with no problems

6/2/2009 6:56:57 PM

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I'm also having trouble with my 3 monitors sometimes. When it does what it does to ask me if I'm sure I want to install something, for instance, it blanks the screen for a second. A couple of times it came back up with only two of my monitors. I've been having to go into the device manager and disable/enable one of the video cards to get it working again. Granted I installed the ATI drivers manually, but only so I can turn off/on crossfire and because crossfire seemed to be enabled by default by windows w/o any way to turn it off. Maybe I was wrong and there was a way, but I couldn't tell.

6/3/2009 11:04:24 AM

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for those of you that use UltraMon (and subsequently discovered it fails at working in win7)

check out DisplayFusion: http://www.binaryfortress.com/displayfusion/

it's awesome - i don't think i'm going back to UltraMon this time.

6/4/2009 9:15:29 AM

dakota_man
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too bad you can't trial the multi takbar thing.

[Edited on June 4, 2009 at 9:26 AM. Reason : my bad, the pro trial is on a separate part of their site.]

6/4/2009 9:23:35 AM

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yeah, 30 day free trial of pro... and it's only $18 to buy.

that's in the realm of impulse buy for me; i have no problem paying such a reasonable price for something that helps me every day.

6/4/2009 9:31:28 AM

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lmfao, it even lets me go into and back out of crossfire mode without crashing. UltraMon pwnt, stay home.

6/4/2009 9:39:02 AM

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Quote :
"the OS works great! I'm running it in Parallels 4.0 on my MBP unibody. My only complaint is that the rest of the Mac OS X becomes a little slow even though I have Parallels optimized for Mac OS X and not the VM. (Windows 7 x64)"


yeah, so far so good. Running it in seamless mode on Virtualbox. It's been so long since i've used a windows product regularly, that I don't even know what I want to do with it (beyond the 3 or 4 things that I need windows for (visio, and a few windows only apps built in house).

I do need more RAM though. I'm nearly maxing out my 2gigs when running all my apps. Is anyone running 6gigs on an MBP? is there a noticeable difference vs. 4GB?

6/4/2009 10:40:26 AM

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With respect to:
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"3) I would have to start by dual booting, and Win 7 would go on the latter half of my disk. I did this exactly with Vista and it was a huge pain in the ass once I was ready to get rid of the XP partition on the beginning of my disk."


I fucked BOTH my Win7 and Vista partitions last night by deciding "Hey, GParted kinda worked before when I moved the one partition I want to keep forward on the disk, I guess I'll try switching my two partitions on disk!" Neither partition ended up bootable, and neither was even repairable with the installation disks (got to the point where it couldn't find any boot problems with either, but wouldn't run explorer.exe on startup). On the plus side, since Win7 installs itself so quickly and installs programs so quickly, I was able to get back up to where I was in the two hours I had before work this morning.

I also noticed the older available ATI drivers don't have this problem:
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"I'm also having trouble with my 3 monitors sometimes. When it does what it does to ask me if I'm sure I want to install something, for instance, it blanks the screen for a second. A couple of times it came back up with only two of my monitors."


So there you go, Noen, 7x64 is my primary OS now. HAPPY?!?!?!

6/8/2009 12:25:33 PM

bous
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binary fortress displayfusion: cx71642a.zip

[Edited on June 8, 2009 at 10:16 PM. Reason : ]

6/8/2009 10:15:48 PM

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7^ displayfusion does look awesome

does it show proper taskbar buttons in windows 7?

6/9/2009 9:01:14 AM

dakota_man
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yeah, really close.

6/9/2009 9:06:41 AM

bous
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about to install build 7201 x64 on main rig

6/9/2009 9:57:39 AM

ScHpEnXeL
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"displayfusion does look awesome

does it show proper taskbar buttons in windows 7?

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the new version does it damn near perfectly. WAAAAAAAY better than ultramon

(OH SHIT error count: 12)



and full background..



[Edited on June 9, 2009 at 10:35 AM. Reason : moar]

6/9/2009 10:27:21 AM

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^ nice, thanks

looks like i'll be switching from ultramon

6/9/2009 1:28:06 PM

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I just found some problems when having multiple instances of Excel open. Can't really explain it but basically it's having a hard time figuring out which task bar which windows should be on.. It's fine for everything else though. Strange

6/9/2009 2:59:51 PM

bous
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build 7201 is great. don't know any difference between 7100 yet though

6/9/2009 5:52:57 PM

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^4 hell yes. cya ultramon!

6/9/2009 6:36:02 PM

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is 7201 a public build?


[Edited on June 9, 2009 at 7:19 PM. Reason : ?]

6/9/2009 7:14:59 PM

Noen
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No. It's an internal build, and it's old.

6/9/2009 7:50:59 PM

confusi0n
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Well if that's the case and 7100 is the RC...how many builds a day are there ? I mean it can't possibly be *that* old.

6/9/2009 7:55:55 PM

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7201 was June 1st, so yes, it's 8 days old and most likely have a new build for this week already.

6/9/2009 8:12:41 PM

bous
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i'd assume they do 1-3 builds a day?

my icons chose to disappear on me, but i just right clicked on desktop | view | show desktop icons and they came back.

other than that and a couple of weird window resizing bugs (where you resize a window on the bottom and your mouse goes over an icon on the taskbar it does some weird window draws) all is well.

6/9/2009 8:42:57 PM

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^I can't talk about any of that. Suffice to say, as I have many times in this thread, you should stick to public releases. Unless you have been given a private build for a specific fix from a Microsoft representative, there is no value in installing these leaked internal builds.

You lose all support and update compatibility with non-public builds, and there's a very high chance that it may not be release quality, or may contain viruses, trojans and malware (as there's no way to verify the authenticity of the image).

6/9/2009 9:41:23 PM

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"my icons chose to disappear on me"


a lot of mine keep doing this too.. mainly just shortcuts to network locations.

weird

6/9/2009 9:57:37 PM

bous
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Noen: but then i wouldn't be leet, c'mon now!

6/9/2009 11:58:47 PM

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They could have done a better job with the XP mode.

6/9/2009 11:59:33 PM

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speaking of resizing, when you move a maximized window, is it really supposed to snap back to the same spot when you release? If so, why even allow the window to unhook?

6/10/2009 8:59:46 AM

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if you move it far enough it doesn't snap back

nvm.. in the original version i installed it worked how it should (i.e. would kind of "un snap" when you moved it..) but it seems to be snapping back all the time now no matter what.

wtf


[Edited on June 10, 2009 at 9:05 AM. Reason : asdf]

ok now it's working how it should and i've changed nothing. PLZ TO FIX THIS BUG Noen ?

[Edited on June 10, 2009 at 9:27 AM. Reason : moar]

6/10/2009 9:04:27 AM

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Windows 7 build 7227 leaks
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/06/10/windows-7-build-7227-leaks

I don't care to upgrade to each new build, but it's fun to watch the leaks.

6/10/2009 9:31:08 AM

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^^I cannot test this theory with remote desktop

6/10/2009 9:56:09 AM

bous
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just grabbed 7229 to put on my home theater pc. hadn't put 7201 on there yet, so may as well try the latest. i don't care

6/12/2009 11:48:21 AM

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[Edited on June 12, 2009 at 8:49 PM. Reason : ugh]

6/12/2009 8:48:28 PM

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Anybody know why the fuck a process called "system" keeps taking 50% of my resources for no apparent reason? Some days it doesn't do it at all and sometimes it's constant.. like right now. I'm not doing anything out of the ordinary. I can't do anything when it happens..all windows lock up completely..even the mouse locks sometimes.

6/15/2009 11:08:35 AM

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install ProcessExplorer and see if it gives you any more information about what started it.

6/15/2009 12:07:10 PM

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