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http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=163106&id=175449817556

check the Fabregas v. Xavi graphic

4/1/2010 10:00:52 AM

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that was the most bullshit penalty I have seen in a long time

I didn't see that Puyol did a thing wrong

but I can understand it being called, I suppose...in real-time it probably looked very bad

also, super coaching by Guardiola...presumably at halftime he said "Hey guys, just chip one over that high Arsenal line, and you're in"

4/1/2010 9:19:46 PM

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Really?


That was one of the most clear-cut penalties I've seen in my life. He stopped the obvious scoring opportunity.


Was it a red? Debatable, but err on the side of giving a red.

4/2/2010 1:33:36 AM

aimorris
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What was he supposed to do? Jump out of the way of Cesc's swinging leg?

4/2/2010 7:51:01 AM

kiljadn
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you can't be fucking serious.

4/2/2010 9:17:53 AM

JTMONEYNCSU
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haha...he scissored his legs. it doesnt get more blatant penalty than that

4/2/2010 9:32:19 AM

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SCISSOR ME TIMBERS

4/2/2010 9:39:08 AM

aimorris
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Just watched it again, I'm not sure what you guys are seeing to make it "clear-cut" and "blatant."

Is it a penalty? Maybe. Can I see why it was called? Sure.

But Puyol is just making a move for the ball and he actually tries to pull up to avoid hitting Fabregas. There's not even an actual challenge on him, he just gets in the way.

4/2/2010 9:50:55 AM

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I, for one, would like to play this sport that aimorris is watching where defenders who stop clear goal scoring opportunities do not get PKs awarded against them

4/2/2010 4:15:21 PM

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So what you're saying is an attacker always has the right to a 50/50 ball, regardless of the nature of the tackle? How would this have been called at midfield? He didn't stick his leg out to trip him, he didn't pull his jersey, and he didn't grab him with his arm. He was just there at the exact same time as Fabregas. He's clearly trying to get the ball first, doesn't get there, tries to pull up to avoid making contact with him, doesn't succeed in doing so, and the foul is called.

I don't have a problem with the penalty being called especially from how it looked in real-time. But it was neither blatant or clear-cut. But the red card was harsh no matter what you think of the challenge.

4/2/2010 5:23:40 PM

JTMONEYNCSU
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that wouldve been called a foul in midfield too, granted it wouldve looked funny. you arent allowed to stop a person's pass or shot in the manner that puyols did whether by accident or purposeful its always gonna be called. i agree the red was harsh, i said that after i saw a good replay of it too. even in real time it looked harsh.

4/2/2010 5:37:32 PM

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well I'm just wondering, what do you think the foul would be classified as? I guess you could say obstruction but that's not a penalty. But you can't just say it's a penalty because it should be.

4/2/2010 5:44:33 PM

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it was a clear goal scoring chance. more than 50% of the time fabregas prob scores that. i see this similar to someone who runs over someone from behind. they most likely dont do it on purpose but its a penalty in the box. i mean by the rules, puyols is the last man on a clear goal scoring chance, so technically the ref didnt do anything wrong...but its gonna be controversial, nonetheless

4/2/2010 5:50:21 PM

aimorris
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I mean, like the actual law, which would it be classified as? charging at an opponent?


http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lawsofthegameen.pdf

4/2/2010 6:01:11 PM

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i cant believe were arguing this with some of the more blatant dives that have already happened in uefa competition already this season


and if youre looking for an answer he either tripped or tackled him...it also looks like he barged him in the back. in real speed it looks an easy PK and red card foul actually from the ref's viewpoint


he actually prob doesnt score that over 50% of the time haha, maybe a bit exaggerated since he has to hit it on the volley. but puyols definitely prevents him from doing that without playing the ball. that motion of him looking like hes backing off is him being a professional...he knew what he was trying to do

[Edited on April 2, 2010 at 7:39 PM. Reason : f]

4/2/2010 7:29:29 PM

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well the argument to me was that it wasn't as blatant as you guys want to act like it was. I had a problem with the red card, not necessarily the penalty


I just like to argue about soccer related shit

4/2/2010 10:37:44 PM

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i saw the play, it was pretty weird. probably a penalty cuz puyol didnt get the ball, but it was almost like fabregas kicked puyol. it shouldn't have been a red for sure. i don't think it was clear cut tho. in real time, it looks like pujols just shoves fabregas, but seeing it in slow motion, fabregas gets his leg stuck between puyols. I dunno, its not an easy play to call.

4/2/2010 11:08:27 PM

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Quote :
"I just like to argue about soccer related shit"





And lo, the root of it, after all these years.

4/2/2010 11:08:43 PM

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It's a foul because he trips Fabregas without getting anywhere near the ball. It doesn't matter if he meant to do it or not. A clumsy tackle is usually regarded as a foul. At that point it has to be a red card because Puyol denied a clear goal-scoring opportunity. It might seem harsh to a casual fan but at that point it has to be done simply because that's a rule. It is actually very clear cut. Unusual, but clear cut nonetheless.

4/3/2010 1:25:49 AM

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didnt realize they were playing already. inter up 1-0 at halftime

cska have to score 3 now at home and keep inter from scoring

4/6/2010 1:16:55 PM

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Possible healthy lineup today for Arsenal:

Sagna - Silvestre - Vermaelen - Clichy
Denilson
Diaby - Nasri
Walcott - Bendtner - Eboue

Lineup of current injured players:

Djorou - Gallas - Campbell - Gibbs
Song
Fabregas - Ramsey
Rosicky - Van Persie - Arshavin

4/6/2010 1:27:22 PM

JTMONEYNCSU
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so either arsenal have the worst physios or they buy the softest players alive...

4/6/2010 1:34:16 PM

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Inter through after a comfortable game in Moscow. Come on Arsenal!!!

4/6/2010 2:26:06 PM

JTMONEYNCSU
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messi scores 2 and bojan scores 1.

4/6/2010 2:43:53 PM

aimorris
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Barca has such a ridiculous squad

Iniesta, Henry and Yaya Toure on the bench in a European quarterfinal

[Edited on April 6, 2010 at 2:45 PM. Reason : and yes I know Henry usually is on the bench]

4/6/2010 2:44:31 PM

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is there any reason FSC is delaying this game several hours and playing a rerun of a man u. game instead?

4/6/2010 2:48:36 PM

Vulcan91
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Because the game is live on FSN (and in HD).

4/6/2010 2:49:41 PM

JTMONEYNCSU
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good save on messi

4/6/2010 2:49:53 PM

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Alves fouled by a ghost

4/6/2010 2:54:07 PM

JTMONEYNCSU
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arsenal are playing a very high defensive line...barca have fast forwards and wingers...not sure about this strategy

messi close again

[Edited on April 6, 2010 at 2:56 PM. Reason : f]

4/6/2010 2:55:35 PM

aimorris
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damn that would have been sick

4/6/2010 2:57:09 PM

FuhCtious
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haha...thanks...i'm an idiot. never looked there, since the first game was on FSC.

4/6/2010 2:57:59 PM

JTMONEYNCSU
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nasri is done now? wow

k, hes back on

[Edited on April 6, 2010 at 3:02 PM. Reason : f]

4/6/2010 3:01:22 PM

JTMONEYNCSU
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ahahah epic busquets flip

4/6/2010 3:03:10 PM

JTMONEYNCSU
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holy shit arsenal have scored...though i think diaby fouled whomever in midfield

4/6/2010 3:03:54 PM

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LET'S GO GUNNERS!!!!!!!!

4/6/2010 3:04:20 PM

aimorris
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walcott's a pussy for not shooting that, he got lucky Bendtner made the best out of a shitty pass

4/6/2010 3:05:03 PM

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SUPER NICK

4/6/2010 3:05:36 PM

JTMONEYNCSU
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walcott shouldve been played the ball to have another breakaway.



holy fuck what a strike

well i was trying to say the loss of pique and puyol has already been showing a few times this match and barca could be in trouble on counters. but wow what a reply from messi

[Edited on April 6, 2010 at 3:07 PM. Reason : e]

4/6/2010 3:06:06 PM

aimorris
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aaaaaand Messi's back

4/6/2010 3:06:08 PM

Ribs
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LOL

world class Leo

4/6/2010 3:06:32 PM

wolfdawg4
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Well that didn't take long. Keep fighting Arsenal.

4/6/2010 3:06:55 PM

JTMONEYNCSU
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this ref is not being consistent with his calls at all...i could see this game getting dicey in the 2nd half

4/6/2010 3:09:03 PM

JTMONEYNCSU
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hahahahaahahaha messi...what a dive..well not really so much a dive, but flopping around afterwards


cant believe refs fall for that shit...do they not learn in school when a person flops around like that he is usually trying to sell a foul

[Edited on April 6, 2010 at 3:17 PM. Reason : f]

4/6/2010 3:15:52 PM

aimorris
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he made the most of that, true

but I hate when people slide in with two feet stretched out like that

4/6/2010 3:16:42 PM

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4/6/2010 3:16:46 PM

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very pissed i can't watch this

[Edited on April 6, 2010 at 3:18 PM. Reason : ok, i will watch the rest of the half lol]

4/6/2010 3:17:07 PM

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fuck messi. that was weak. i hope someone really does take him out hard if he wants to roll around like that. the fact that denilson gets a card is the worst of it.

4/6/2010 3:17:54 PM

JTMONEYNCSU
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that tackle was fine to me. i cant stand when players roll around like that. when you are really hurt, you dont roll around in agony.


messi nearly scores again

4/6/2010 3:17:57 PM

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Quote :
"JOSEP

GQ

GUARDIOLA"

4/6/2010 3:20:36 PM

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