graham looked great. it was nice to see him making plays after the catch. i thought maddox looked pretty beastly as well.

wolfdog is 1-0!

9/5/2010 12:38:59 AM

Saw Glennon at the Carolina Al house after the game. He was limping a little bit.

9/5/2010 12:47:18 AM

the injury didnt look that bad at the game but if im the coaching staff im telling glennon to milk the fuck out of it so he can get dat medical redshirt (provided RW stays healthy)

9/5/2010 1:10:23 AM

HE'S NOT GOING TO GET A MEDICAL REDSHIRT, HE ALREADY USED HIS REDSHIRT YEAR GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK FUCKING SKULLS

9/5/2010 1:18:14 AM

Anyone tried to watch the replay of the game on ESPN3? I can get about 10 minutes in and it freezes and won't let me load a later time. None of the other game replays seem to have that problem.

9/5/2010 1:51:06 AM

Quote :

"HE'S NOT GOING TO GET A MEDICAL REDSHIRT, HE ALREADY USED HIS REDSHIRT YEAR GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK FUCKING SKULLS"

You can have a medical redshirt after you've had a "normal" redshirt. The point is meaningless though as he is fine and will see snaps in most of our games this year. Edit to say that I'm probably wrong about that the medical redshirt deal. Just guessing.

[Edited on September 5, 2010 at 2:27 AM. Reason : f]

9/5/2010 2:25:10 AM

Quote :

"You can have a medical redshirt after you've had a "normal" redshirt."

No you can't, get some facts and come back and see me. You get one redshirt year, and that is all...why do you think Nate Irving is a senior and not a junior.

9/5/2010 3:05:58 AM

Quote :

"On rare occasions, a player may be allowed to play in his or her sixth year of college if he or she suffered a serious injury which kept him or her from playing for more than one season."

9/5/2010 3:10:54 AM

see chris colmer

9/5/2010 3:34:25 AM

schmitty, im having the same problem. that espn player is buggy

9/5/2010 4:22:31 AM

You can get a medical hardship year. Look at Toney Baker, he was going to be able to come back for a 6th year but left.

9/5/2010 6:51:35 AM

Why do Kuhn, Vermiglio & Sweezy get benched while Bryan plays? Didn't they all get caught together?

9/5/2010 7:03:48 AM

cause they were the ones smoking while bryan was just in the apartment sleeping elsewhere

9/5/2010 8:41:23 AM

I didn't get to watch any of the game (just follow it on my cell phone during a wedding reception). Did Nate Irving play much? The scout.com box score has 0 stats for him so I was wondering how he looked.

9/5/2010 10:57:16 AM

Hell, Toney Baker got like 10 years of eligibility due to injuries, he decided though 9 years in college was enough.....

[Edited on September 5, 2010 at 11:03 AM. Reason : q]

9/5/2010 11:03:12 AM

Does anyone have pictures from the game?

9/5/2010 11:03:56 AM

Quote :

"HE'S NOT GOING TO GET A MEDICAL REDSHIRT, HE ALREADY USED HIS REDSHIRT YEAR GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK FUCKING SKULLS"

Quote :

"No you can't, get some facts and come back and see me. You get one redshirt year, and that is all..."

If you're gonna be a dick, at least make sure you're right. Apparently you don't remember the NCAA granting Toney Baker a 6th year last November


[Edited on September 5, 2010 at 11:16 AM. Reason : bold]

9/5/2010 11:11:34 AM

armorfrsleep is consistently wrong as shit

9/5/2010 11:22:21 AM

SO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

9/5/2010 11:57:18 AM

You cannot get a medical "redshirt" year, however you can get a medical hardship year of eligibility. Its all in the nomenclature. Some people are just being overly picky. The premise remains, an extra year of eligibility due to medical issues.

Of course the point is moot as he will be fine.

9/5/2010 12:05:38 PM

ITT armorfrsleep shows himself to be even more of an idiot.

[Edited on September 5, 2010 at 12:14 PM. Reason : k]

9/5/2010 12:13:12 PM

TONEY BAKER GOT A MEDICAL HARSHIP WAIVER BECAUSE HE MISSED 2 YEARS DUE TO INJURIES, MIKE GLENNON IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR A REDSHIRT YEAR BECAUSE HE ALREADY USED HIS 2 YEARS AGO. IF HE WERE TO MISS THE REST OF THIS SEASON AND ANOTHER SEASON DUE TO INJURIES THEN HE COULD GET A MEDICAL HARDSHIP WAIVER AND GET AN EXTRA YEAR OF ELIGIBILITY. WHY DO YOU THINK NATE IRVING IS A SENIOR AND NOT A JUNIOR? BECAUSE HE ALREADY USED HIS REDSHIRT SO HE COULDNT REDSHIRT LAST SEASON.

[Edited on September 5, 2010 at 12:41 PM. Reason : .]

9/5/2010 12:38:33 PM

^ he's a man, he's 40.

9/5/2010 12:42:33 PM

i'm not a student anymore so i can't really complain, but any reason why they aren't letting students in sections 14/15 anymore? i must have missed this discussion if it already happened

9/5/2010 12:43:56 PM

medical hardship/reshirt

who cares


same thing essentially.

9/5/2010 12:43:57 PM

No it's not, because you have to miss 2 seasons due to injuries to get the hardship waiver and thus Mike Glennon is not eligible for a medical redshirt if he were to miss the rest of the season which is the whole point of the argument.

Quote :

"Irving redshirted in 2006, so he cannot gain an additional year of eligibility as a result of this injury."

http://www.newsobserver.com/2009/08/14/44824/ncsus-irving-will-miss-season.html#storylink=misearch

9/5/2010 12:47:02 PM

talk some more shit faggots, you motherfuckers don't know shit about football

9/5/2010 12:53:13 PM

Quote :

"you have to miss 2 seasons due to injuries to get the hardship waiver"

This is completely untrue

Quote :

"Mike Glennon is not eligible for a medical redshirt if he were to miss the rest of the season"

Wrong again, see:

Quote :

"Guidelines for Medical Hardship Waiver Requests For a student-athlete to receive a Medical Hardship Waiver per Bylaw 14.2.4, the following four conditions must be met: The student-athlete may not have participated in more than two contests or dates of competition or 20 percent of the team's completed contests/dates of competition. The injury or illness must occur prior to the completion of the first half of the season. The injury or illness does not have to occur during practice/competition, but it must be incapacitating. Appropriate medical documentation must exist and be provided."

http://www.athletics.vt.edu/compliance/competition/seasons.html

9/5/2010 1:04:50 PM

Quote :

"but any reason why they aren't letting students in sections 14/15 anymore?"

They need to do something to make it more efficient all around. It was absolutely retarded the bottleneck that was at the entrance underneath the scoreboard where you had two full gates above Section 1 (where coincidentally I was sitting) which were students only that had attendants sitting there dicking around with no lines.

[Edited on September 5, 2010 at 1:08 PM. Reason : x]

9/5/2010 1:07:42 PM

lol, is he going to type in all caps again?

hey armorforsleep, u mad?

9/5/2010 1:07:54 PM

^^^Meh, beat me to it. Chris Colmer didn't miss 2 seasons with parsonage turner syndrome. He redshirted out of high school, but became ill his senior season. He got a medical hardship waiver

Baker had never redshirted when he got hurt. Therefore, you are required to use you normal "redshirt" year for the injury. The 2nd year he got hurt, he had used his normal redshirt year, thus applied for a medical hardship 6th year and got it becuase it fit the "extreme/extenuating hardship" standards poorly defined by the NCAA

The reason Nate would be ineligible is becuase normally when you take a non-medical redshirt you are ineligible for a medical redshirt unless something drastic happens medically. Falling asleep while driving your car into a ravine doesn't really qualify as extreme and unforseen medical hardship.

http://www.athletics.vt.edu/compliance/competition/seasons.html

Quote :

"Guidelines for Medical Hardship Waiver Requests For a student-athlete to receive a Medical Hardship Waiver per Bylaw 14.2.4, the following four conditions must be met: The student-athlete may not have participated in more than two contests or dates of competition or 20 percent of the team's completed contests/dates of competition. The injury or illness must occur prior to the completion of the first half of the season. The injury or illness does not have to occur during practice/competition, but it must be incapacitating. Appropriate medical documentation must exist and be provided."

[Edited on September 5, 2010 at 1:36 PM. Reason : ]

9/5/2010 1:13:01 PM

I think armor is tripping over semantics, so let me point out that nowhere in the NCAA compliance handbook are the terms "redshirt" or "medical redshirt" used. The rule is that a player has five seasons to complete four years of eligibility. Beyond that, there are situations where a sixth year of eligibility is granted -- one such situation is the medical hardship waiver pasted above. These are approved on a per-player basis: Baker, Colmer, and others have been OKed, but others (Ben Mauk comes to mind) are routinely denied.

9/5/2010 1:29:31 PM

Will we be ranked after this week?

9/5/2010 1:37:06 PM

Quote :

"i'm not a student anymore so i can't really complain, but any reason why they aren't letting students in sections 14/15 anymore? i must have missed this discussion if it already happened"

they added more sections of the south end zone to the student section, and got rid of 14/15. GOOD CALL


why was there a damn dog on the field? i didn't see any blind people.


[Edited on September 5, 2010 at 1:55 PM. Reason : derp]

9/5/2010 1:51:15 PM

[Edited on September 5, 2010 at 1:55 PM. Reason : derp]

9/5/2010 1:53:45 PM

LOL @ armor!

its ok! you're just wrong!

9/5/2010 1:59:17 PM

In the most literal sense of reading the rule he's actually right. That said, if a player redshirts then has a future catastrophic injury, they can petition for a 6th year. Oftentimes they are granted it.

Glennon couldnt use a medical hardship this year becuase that only applies to players that do play in games, but then have thier season cut short. You basically beg to allow the player to use that as his normal 'redshirt' year even though he already played a bit.

That said, if Glennon was gone for the season this year...and he's already redshirted.... after his senior year he could petition for an extra year. It's rarely granted to non-seniors, but it happens

[Edited on September 5, 2010 at 2:13 PM. Reason : ]

9/5/2010 2:10:08 PM

Ernie quit posting links to NCAA compliance bylaws, I'm gonna believe that N&O article over NCAA compliance bylaws anyday

ps: didn't Ilian Evtimov get 2 medical redshirts? or do I always misremember that

[Edited on September 5, 2010 at 2:19 PM. Reason : .]

9/5/2010 2:18:23 PM

lol

got called out

9/5/2010 2:25:39 PM

Any videos from last night floating around? My internet is pathetic and won't stream the ESPN3 feed, so hoping to find some highlights.

9/5/2010 6:54:21 PM

check wral.com

9/5/2010 6:57:25 PM

Oh I found a video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDLAVu3RMW4

9/5/2010 7:59:52 PM

I'm pretty sure I that guy'ed a BobbyDigital picture on the way in to the game.

9/5/2010 8:44:29 PM

^^That was awesome. Check out this angle : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8t_CCmASDU

9/5/2010 11:41:26 PM

5 to play 4. The extra season is the redshirt season. 5 to play 4 PERIOD (except for the very rare 6th year waiver)

Medical hardship waiver (sometimes referred to as a medical redshirt) = played in 4 games or fewer, all in the first half of the season, got a season ending injury. Does not apply to pre-season injuries -- those guys just take regular old redshirts.

6th year waiver = injured for more than 1 season (vague) or in cases of extreme hardship (also vague)


Chris Colmer got a 6th year waiver because his Parsons Turnashsodfja Syndrome was sufficiently "extreme" in the eyes of the NCAA despite the fact that his regular redshirt year was not injury related.

Toney Baker got a 6th year waiver because he missed two full seasons due to injury.

Read more: http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=178&f=2533&t=4673382

9/6/2010 12:18:55 AM

Quote :

"I'm pretty sure I that guy'ed a BobbyDigital picture on the way in to the game."

haha wat?

9/6/2010 12:21:11 AM

Quote :

"That was awesome. Check out this angle"

Yeah your all acc linebacker needed help tacking out little receiver. wtg!!

lol

Seriously I can't wait to see our two offenses go at it this year. Lets see how many scoring records we can all set.

9/6/2010 12:35:10 AM

^I say first to a hundred wins.

9/6/2010 12:36:52 AM

for those trying to watch the espn3 feed.

its not your internet. I have both a super fast broadband connection and a fairly modern computer with graphics card. The things stops and stutters and i can't get more than a few seconds here and there without it locking up. Live feeds look awesome, but something is wrong with their recorded games.

also: plz 2 not have another page and a half of ncaa rules argument

[Edited on September 6, 2010 at 2:02 AM. Reason : a]

9/6/2010 2:00:58 AM

Was just going to ask about this...yeah, its not my internet, as every other game replay seems to play fine for the most part. But for whatever reason, this one stops after a couple of minutes (if that) and will not start again (without completely restarting the feed from the beginning). I emailed their customer support and of course got the canned response about video being CPU intensive, etc etc. For whatever reason, the one game on here I actually want to watch is almost completely unplayable...so very typical.

9/6/2010 1:02:46 PM