The waterblock stuff I already took care of, someone put a bunch of water on the trees over by Ernie's place...that's a lot easier to fix than lava though

10/24/2010 10:29:16 AM

Getting a "Disconnected by server" "Took too long to log in" when trying to get onto the server. Anyone else running into this problem?

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Eh, scratch that. I'm not on the whitelist yet.

[Edited on October 24, 2010 at 11:22 AM. Reason : nvm]

10/24/2010 11:21:43 AM

Lately when I've been going back to the spawn point via the command the ground hasn't been loading yet and you can see all the tunnels beneath the spawn. It's pretty awesome. I'll try to get a screen shot of it.



[Edited on October 24, 2010 at 8:59 PM. Reason : got one, near the spawn. ]

10/24/2010 8:52:44 PM

so I was considering getting this game and I went to http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp to test it out. it was laggy as fuck for me. I find it hard to believe that my laptop (as shitty as it may be) can't run this.

10/24/2010 9:19:51 PM

Super cool story

I'm so pumped for the new map. Our subway is going to be the bomb.

10/24/2010 9:28:29 PM

I'll be sad to see the old map go. Can't just keep both? Create a new spawn point?

10/24/2010 9:51:24 PM

Old map won't work with the new stuff, right?

10/24/2010 9:53:22 PM

oh yeah good point.

10/24/2010 10:01:37 PM

aight, who's ready to build a fortress in hell?

10/24/2010 10:33:17 PM

hell yeah

10/24/2010 11:42:52 PM

fuck yea

10/24/2010 11:47:27 PM

TONIGHT, WE DIG IN HELL

10/25/2010 12:23:26 AM

[Edited on October 25, 2010 at 12:30 AM. Reason : nm]

10/25/2010 12:29:15 AM

I see the Hell dimension like running the gambit, it'll be hilarious.

We'll have the different Townships set up on the new server, and we can make Hell pathways that traverse from each populated area to the other.

But when you get into Hell you're on your own. Dash for the finish!

10/25/2010 3:06:41 AM

Quote :

"so I was considering getting this game and I went to http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp to test it out. it was laggy as fuck for me. I find it hard to believe that my laptop (as shitty as it may be) can't run this."

BELIEVE IT

[Edited on October 25, 2010 at 6:33 AM. Reason : k]

10/25/2010 6:33:01 AM

^ I don't wanna. I can run 25 man raids on wow. but not this? RIDICULOUS.

10/25/2010 10:06:18 AM

update java?

10/25/2010 10:08:17 AM

inefficient graphics pipelines engines are inefficient.

It's an alpha of a game by one dude. WoW was developed by an army of professional designers, and specifically designed to run on shitty hardware.

I'm still kicking myself for paying for an alpha. It's sorta fun, but clearly missing a lot of functionality and playability.

[Edited on October 25, 2010 at 10:10 AM. Reason : wrong word.]

10/25/2010 10:09:57 AM

Quote :

"Old map won't work with the new stuff, right?"

I believe Notch has said that old maps/saves will work with all of the Oct31 updates, only stipulation is that biomes won't generate on already discovered terrain but will on any undiscovered areas.

10/25/2010 10:13:34 AM

Quote :

"^ I don't wanna. I can run 25 man raids on wow. but not this? RIDICULOUS."

How old is your laptop? I doubt it can run 25 man raids and can't play Minecraft. My friend just built a computer specifically for raiding and it took quite a bit of overclocking to get wow to run maxed out in a 25 man raid. Wow is horribly CPU reliant as is Minecraft but I've seen Minecraft run on some pretty shitty single core laptops.

10/25/2010 1:40:59 PM

He didn't say it was on max settings

10/25/2010 2:11:38 PM

Quote :

"only stipulation is that biomes won't generate on already discovered terrain but will on any undiscovered areas"

what

10/25/2010 2:27:29 PM

^ so the new snow/desert/forest/whatever-else terrains will be found when you explore uncharted territory within an existing map, but what you have already visited will stay as the same uniform look that exists now

10/25/2010 2:52:29 PM

We all are going to need that fast travel on our old maps then.

10/25/2010 4:13:38 PM

graphics still aren't compatible with my laptop

10/25/2010 7:02:21 PM

Skin Editor
http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=4843

10/25/2010 8:23:34 PM

Quote :

"How old is your laptop? I doubt it can run 25 man raids and can't play Minecraft. My friend just built a computer specifically for raiding and it took quite a bit of overclocking to get wow to run maxed out in a 25 man raid. Wow is horribly CPU reliant as is Minecraft but I've seen Minecraft run on some pretty shitty single core laptops."

yeah as ^? said, I ran 25 mans on the lowest settings possible. My laptop is pretty new, 1-2 years old though.

edit: i didnt know if there was really a difference in the minecraft version that's free online compared to the one you buy and download separately.

[Edited on October 25, 2010 at 8:37 PM. Reason : .]

10/25/2010 8:37:10 PM

the browser version is very slow on this computer, but the pay version runs smoothly

10/25/2010 8:50:43 PM

^yeah, running it in a browser is awful. i'm surprised you think it would be otherwise. either way, go back to wow; you probably won't enjoy this game.

10/26/2010 11:32:22 AM

I've explained to server friends already why it is that it would run slow in a browser but not on the downloaded client.

Fucking miracles.

10/26/2010 1:41:31 PM

And for the record, sorry guys but I can't change the whitelist for some reason. Waiting for a correction from Saturn.

10/27/2010 1:55:41 AM

someone else needs to setup a server for tdub.

saturnine obviously doesn't give a damn about it, he's been here once in two weeks. The server hasn't been able to connect for me in almost two days now, and I'm still waiting (again for two weeks) to be able to build anything.

10/27/2010 4:29:31 AM

^^ Thanks for checking man. I'll keep an eye out here for news of a change.

10/27/2010 1:02:06 PM

^^ Be my guest?

I apologize that I have other things to do, most of them more important than tending to your needs. I haven't been worrying about the server much recently because anything that happens now is going to be pointless when a new map goes up after the update. Also looking into an interface for people to work on whitelist and banning without worrying about in-game commands.

In other words. Fuck off and I'll get to it shortly. I have no real stake in the server; I have no issue running it for the community, but if someone else wants to get pestered about it they're welcome to do so.

10/27/2010 2:07:57 PM

I, for one, am more than pleased that saturnine has a server for us

Now if only I could get MY laptop to play it instead of borrowing my girlfriend's...

[Edited on October 27, 2010 at 3:39 PM. Reason : n]

10/27/2010 3:39:01 PM

Quote :

"I, for one, am more than pleased that saturnine has a server for us"

Yeah, chill brah

10/27/2010 5:18:50 PM

Biomes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=953XeQ3qwMM

10/27/2010 6:25:11 PM

Trying to build an underwater tunnel is frustrating

10/27/2010 9:51:02 PM

^^Cool video. I kinda feel like the biomes seem pretty small (especially desert), and feel like it would be much more natural for gradual climate shifts and bigger zones overall. Something about being able to see your snow zone quickly transition into jungle or desert seems weird.

10/27/2010 10:25:38 PM

Quote :

"Also looking into an interface for people to work on whitelist and banning without worrying about in-game commands. In other words. Fuck off and I'll get to it shortly. I have no real stake in the server; I have no issue running it for the community, but if someone else wants to get pestered about it they're welcome to do so."

That would be good. I'm don't think it's unreasonable to ask to be able to participate in the community, and get a response within TWO WEEKS.

I understand the whole point that a new version will be out in a couple of days. Just wanted to get familiar with SMP before the big new update hit, but I guess I'll wait just like I have been already

10/27/2010 10:52:59 PM

I have a server up... have about a dozen people coming to it, usually 4 or 5 on every night. I just finished this:





[Edited on October 28, 2010 at 5:18 AM. Reason : .]

10/28/2010 5:14:45 AM

Quote :

"Cool video. I kinda feel like the biomes seem pretty small (especially desert), and feel like it would be much more natural for gradual climate shifts and bigger zones overall. Something about being able to see your snow zone quickly transition into jungle or desert seems weird."

The video actually goes so fast/is at such a high angle that you can't see a lot of the more subtle transitions. I'm not positive, but it looked like he even added a bunch of different leaf and grass shades for seasons and biome areas.

Even though there's only 3 or 4 obvious ones in that video, here's the full list of biomes:
- rainforest
- temperate rainforest
- seasonal forest
- forest
- savanna
- shrubland
- taiga
- desert
- grass desert
- ice desert
- tundra

10/28/2010 6:08:25 AM

I'm curious to know if the biomes will really look much different. It was hard to tell from the video.

I think there should items/blocks you can only get in certain biomes, thus giving you an incentive to explore.

[Edited on October 28, 2010 at 9:56 AM. Reason : ^^daaamn]

10/28/2010 9:56:18 AM

You can only get snowballs in snow regions. You evidently have a much higher chance of finding cacti in the desert (video). There are a shit ton of trees in the forest and jungles.

Aside from that, unique blocks would be cool as fuck

10/28/2010 11:01:02 AM

Yea the thing is snowballs are useless and trees aren't that rare (especially since you can grow your own).

10/28/2010 11:06:04 AM

I also noticed a lava stream...guess a volcano? Are those natural in the pre-biome world? I wonder if those would have effects on mineral deposits

[Edited on October 28, 2010 at 12:08 PM. Reason : Also, I managed to find an obscure update to my video drivers and can play on my laptop ]

10/28/2010 12:07:47 PM

^ You'll find natural lavafalls just like waterfalls with the current maps.

10/28/2010 1:33:15 PM

^I have a natural lava stream right outside my spawn. It's pretty fricking epic.

What's absolutely hilarious is that all the animals seem to LOVE wandering into it and killing themselves. It's practically a pork factory.

10/28/2010 1:35:03 PM

Alright, a few tweaks.

-Whitelist updated
-Build access given by default. If people get whitelisted and run off to fuck things up, oh well.
-Added new group: restricted; to remove build access if needed.
-Server restarted. Should be smooth again.
-Fixed the /whitelist command for mods. Fuck-up on my part, but it should work fine now.


Going to try to launch the new map sometime next week. Hopefully the spawn will be laid out this weekend, and spruced up by public launch. One we have the layout ready, people are welcome to help with spawn before we push the map to the server.

As I said before: When the new map goes live there will be some new rules. Nothing at all unreasonable, but I'll be strict about them for everyone's sake. Mostly pertains to personal construction in the spawn area.

Any other issues let me know. Should be able to keep an eye on things this weekend if I'm not too busy or drunk.

10/28/2010 2:45:30 PM

Was about 12-13 minutes into the maze when I jumped down the glass hole and ended up in everyone's mines. Cool as shit though. I had loads of fun.

10/28/2010 6:41:02 PM