bess got a couple


and I don't know when hartline got the td...

9/12/2011 10:06:07 PM

he threw it to Bush for a few yard

Bush needs to run more imo

9/12/2011 10:06:17 PM

speaking of bess.... YAY FOR POINTS THAT GET ME NO WHERE IN THE MASSACRE!!



[Edited on September 12, 2011 at 10:09 PM. Reason : FUUUUU]

9/12/2011 10:06:45 PM

alright Bush, 4th and 1, your time to shine and get me some points

[Edited on September 12, 2011 at 10:09 PM. Reason : if you're even in the game right now]

[Edited on September 12, 2011 at 10:10 PM. Reason : you bunch of faggots]

9/12/2011 10:09:31 PM

lololol i was just down 13 points with Welker remaining

9/12/2011 10:11:56 PM

So my league has a really jacked up scoring system that give extra points to things like 40+ yd pass completions and TDs and big negatives for a pick 6. Thanks to that system, I lost by 10 pts when my opponent's QB Romo (342, 2 Tds, 1 Int, 1 fumble) outscored my QB Stafford (305 yds, 3 Tds, 1 pick 6 Int) by 20 pts. WTF? Oh well I'm sure they'll be weeks that the system helps me too.

9/12/2011 10:12:24 PM

well im down 19 now, thanks welker

9/12/2011 10:13:55 PM

And with that Welker TD I'll drop to 0-1 in all 3 of my leagues. Sweet.

9/12/2011 10:14:17 PM

haha same here fuckin 24 pt lead going into tonight, damn you wes welker!

[Edited on September 12, 2011 at 10:15 PM. Reason : spelling]

9/12/2011 10:15:34 PM

I think he just killed the ESPN fantasy website

[Edited on September 12, 2011 at 10:16 PM. Reason : GIVE REGGIE BUSH THE BALL GOD DAMN IT]

[Edited on September 12, 2011 at 10:17 PM. Reason : thx]

9/12/2011 10:15:44 PM

lol am I the only one that benefited from that Welker BS

9/12/2011 10:16:37 PM

haha wasn't someone trying to make a point about cam newton by comparing him to Brady saying that Brady had never thrown for as many yards as he did? well Brady just passed the 500 yard mark- lol fuck

9/12/2011 10:17:48 PM

Yeah the stat was something like Brady has never thrown for 412 yard or whatever...he just passed that. By about 100 yards lol

9/12/2011 10:18:31 PM

alright Cam, time to step up and defend yourself, get me 600 yards against the Packers

9/12/2011 10:19:35 PM

haha. just needed one more grab from welker to narrowly win it. the fact that he took it for 99 yards and a td was a nice bonus

9/12/2011 10:20:16 PM

So a guy in my league who loves to chase last weeks points just dropped Jermichael Finley and Owen Daniels...I have Dallas Clark currently, whom I dont plan to drop, but obviously need to pick up another (especially considering the outlook for the Colts)...Is Finley definitely the better of the two?

9/12/2011 10:22:19 PM

^Yes...I'd go Finley

I'm in 3 leagues. Brady has 37 and 34 in 2 of the leagues and then 54.7 in the other. didn't realize the scoring was that qb friendly in my third league.

[Edited on September 12, 2011 at 10:24 PM. Reason : ]

9/12/2011 10:23:02 PM

I think I have to play mccluster as a receiver. My receivers suck balls

9/12/2011 10:23:06 PM

I think Finley is getting closer to Gates status in fantasy terms, esp. with Rodgers throwing to him

so IMO, Finley over Clark

9/12/2011 10:24:03 PM

finley, if he stays healthy, is a beast, and IMO the best TE in the league. The only thing that detracts from him is that he is on a team that has sooooo many targets. i'd grab him!

9/12/2011 10:36:22 PM

lololol, I won my week 1 matchup by .90 points. My opponent had Felix Jones.

9/12/2011 10:36:53 PM

better hope it stands before you gloat ... stat corrections can be a motherfucker

9/12/2011 10:38:24 PM

stat corrections cost me a trip to the championship last year.

9/12/2011 11:17:03 PM

Janikowski had a 63-yarder, that's good for 6.

Reggie Bush scored 14 against a very good NE defense. I think I'll keep him over Tolbert.

Tom Brady had 36 in my league.

9/13/2011 12:25:20 AM

ive never seen a league that gives any more than 5 pts for a 50+ yarder

9/13/2011 12:25:56 AM

^^ Keep Tolbert...wtf

why drop him? he had 3 scores.

9/13/2011 12:27:05 AM

If you are in leagues where people are dropping Finley and Tolbert, don't even bother posting up here. The people in your leagues are stupid and rational advice does not apply.


This thread is only needed for competitive leagues.

9/13/2011 12:49:06 AM

^
TreeTwista10 was once in a fantasy baseball league with mongoloids.

Mongoloids, dude.

9/13/2011 12:54:29 AM

*mongloids

9/13/2011 1:04:21 AM

^ Hope that's a joke.

9/13/2011 1:14:18 AM

I just offered a guy Sam Bradford and Ben Tate for Steve Smith of Carolina. he denied within 20 mins...

I was hoping he would jump on Ben Tate since has Steve Smith on his bench...

9/13/2011 1:17:46 AM

thats a terrible offer.

one with a messed up throwing hand the other prolly not starting next week and at BEST in a time share.

9/13/2011 1:27:09 AM

I hate when I have the 2nd most points in a league and still lose

9/13/2011 6:20:31 AM

At point do you guys start exploring trade options. I know it is only Week 2, but I am already 0-1, and this year has pretty much the same feel as last year (loved the team I drafted, but it seemed like I always played the weekly high scorer and ended up finishing 4th in my league), and I am projected to lose by 20 this week.

My team is (12 team league 6 pts for pass TDs):

QB
Big Ben
Josh Freeman

RB
Adrian Peterson
Frank Gore
Ryan Matthews
Jonathan Stewart

WR
Hakeem Nicks
Desean Jackson
Dez Bryant
Steve Smith(car)
Jordy Nelson

TE
Jimmy Graham

K
Janikowski

D/ST
Chargers (leaning towards playing weekly matchups)

Not meant to be a panic question, just spurring discussion.

[Edited on September 13, 2011 at 7:48 AM. Reason : .]

9/13/2011 7:48:26 AM

I think you're team looks incredibly solid for a 12 man league. You're lacking a stud QB, but with the rest of your starters, I think Big Ben & Josh Freeman will be solid.

I always think it takes until about week 4 to figure out which WRs are worth a damn.


[Edited on September 13, 2011 at 7:58 AM. Reason : :]

9/13/2011 7:50:36 AM

Quote :

" Reggie Bush scored 14 against a very good NE defense."

Very good? They were complete ass. Chad Henne threw for 400 yards on them.

9/13/2011 8:02:12 AM

Quote :

"I hate when I have the 2nd most points in a league and still lose "

9/13/2011 8:33:54 AM

Was pretty even with my opponent in my 16-team money league (up by 4 pts) prior to the Monday night games. He had Green-Ellis and Janikowski, I had Hernandez and McFadden left. Wasn't worried about the matchup going in, but sure was nice that both players got their fair share of points!

With that said, my QB situation is hurting (Bradford/Collins). Drop Collins for Grossman? I have #1 waiver wire priority, but I don't want to burn it until I come across a player I'm absolutely sure will help me.

9/13/2011 8:47:08 AM

Had the second most points and lost by .8 points because I didn't play the right kicker. Fuck kickers

9/13/2011 8:58:03 AM

guy in my league dropped lance moore and roy williams. either one worth a grab? i saw a couple of injury flags

9/13/2011 9:26:28 AM

I have Moore on my bench. If he comes back this week (groin injury), I would think he would get some targets for sure with Colston out. As for Williams, I'm just not sold on the guy. Of course this all depends on who you decide to drop, and who else is available to pick up.

9/13/2011 9:45:57 AM

who should I start
Newton or Roth

9/13/2011 10:16:00 AM

Big Ben vs. Seattle D, no question. Newton comes down to earth against the Packers.

9/13/2011 10:21:00 AM

I'm 1st on the waivers so gonna try to pick up Cadillac Williams this week.

9/13/2011 11:18:06 AM

I'm picking up Cam Newton as a backup to replace Matt Cassel. I know the first week was a fluke but he only has to do well during my starter's bye week (week 5), which is against the Saints.

9/13/2011 11:25:40 AM

Quote :

"^^ Keep Tolbert...wtf why drop him? he had 3 scores."

Quote :

"If you are in leagues where people are dropping Finley and Tolbert, don't even bother posting up here. The people in your leagues are stupid and rational advice does not apply. This thread is only needed for competitive leagues."

I wouldn't talk shit if you don't know your shit. Tolbert ran 12 times for only 35 yards and 1 TD. His other scores were due to the Chargers playing from behind and good secondary coverage and dropped passes by Floyd. He had a hot hand so they kept feeding him the ball. Playing defense when you're ahead you let the underneath passes go... hence why Tolbert had so many points from receiving over rushing. Hey points are points, I'm not saying he's not worth keeping, but whereas Reggie Bush can put up 14-15 points on a weekly basis due to the same rushing/receiving plays that Tolbert gets... I think they're pretty comparable over the course of the season. So don't come in here on your high horse because you think that sorting by stats on ESPN's website gives you some superior knowledge of how a player will play the rest of the year. I'm not hating, Tolbert was a top 20 back last year as Ryan Matthews backup, and I presume he'll do the same this year. I just can't have a back like Tolbert that fluctuates from 5 points to 25 points each week, I'd rather have a consistent 15+. I guarantee you he'll be a waiver wire pickup this week. I'm in a 10-person league and we can only have a max of 3 RB's. I have Arian Foster & Darren McFadden, at best Reggie Bush or Mike Tolbert would be a flex play for me anyways. But Reggie Bush has the backfield to HIMSELF.

Quote :

"Very good? They were complete ass. Chad Henne threw for 400 yards on them."

True, I guess I should have prefaced that with "historically", you gotta consider the lock-out changed a lot of things and with little to no time to research, the early weeks will be surprising as teams start to figure each other out. I wouldn't say weeks 1-3 will be good indications of how teams will do down the stretch. I mean I think the Steelers defense is good, but they got handed to by the Ravens.

Anyhow, down to my question.

I trade:
Matthew Stafford & Santonio Holmes
For:
Joe Flacco & Hakeem Nicks

I need a better WR2/FLEX receiver and I have Philip Rivers as my QB1... I also have Lance Moore & Ochocinco to trade as WR, but thought this was a pretty decent/fair trade for both of us. He has Eli & Flacco, personally I'd rather have Flacco, but could get Eli if that would be better.

[Edited on September 13, 2011 at 11:52 AM. Reason : /]

9/13/2011 11:41:02 AM

Is Owen Daniels still worth holding onto over someone like Aaron Hernandez? Just seems like Daniels has been on the decline for a little while now.

9/13/2011 11:41:24 AM

Hernandez is splitting time with Gronkowski. its a toss up

9/13/2011 1:16:24 PM

^Agreed.

Stafford vs KC or Roethlisberger vs SEA this weekend? Thoughts...?

9/13/2011 1:21:14 PM

KC looks like the worst team in the leauge right now, and I think Pitt will try to run on seattle as much as possible.

I'd start Stafford but it's a toss up.

@Prospero, Didn't Nicks get injured?

[Edited on September 13, 2011 at 1:34 PM. Reason : ]

9/13/2011 1:32:18 PM