k, TIL Tottenham fans are stupid too. in addition to having a huge complex. loller

Ribsmad

12/29/2015 4:59:15 PM

The fact that neither of you want any part of this tells me everything I need to know about what you actually think of United.

Funny how both of you had a lot to say until right now.

12/29/2015 5:00:43 PM

United always have something to say come May, so I'll take my chances. Thanks for the memeworthy post though

Once again, are there 2 teams in North London?

12/29/2015 5:05:57 PM

Called out and slinks away

There's two NL teams in the top 4...

[Edited on December 29, 2015 at 5:09 PM. Reason : pathetic]

12/29/2015 5:08:17 PM

But we'll be back in May to take that away, walking in a Fergie van Gaal wonderland.

But again sucks that we're pigs in the dirt arguing with a Spurs fan, oh how the mighty have fallen

[Edited on December 29, 2015 at 5:11 PM. Reason : ]

12/29/2015 5:09:51 PM

"yeah, but, by the end of the season...."



[Edited on December 29, 2015 at 5:15 PM. Reason : I can't believe you're still talking. I've just proven your words are plastic.]

12/29/2015 5:13:13 PM

You haven't proven shit, except that your hate for United is unhealthy. Not hipster.

[Edited on December 29, 2015 at 5:18 PM. Reason : ]

12/29/2015 5:18:13 PM

betting is the new way to assert your ego! lol.

Also no I don't gamble on anything but 5 quid accumulators. So really if you want to put $10 then I am in. If not, go gamble in Vegas. Might I also suggest:






The fact that you are willing to put $500 on a result controlled by 22 men about 3500 miles away is hilariously stupid.

Also PS: before you think this is a pissing contest between a spurs fan and united fans, I have only said I do not believe Spurs will finish 4th. That does not imply that United will, shit going off our last 8 matches we probably won't. I still don't believe Spurs have more talent than even Liverpool to leap frog them and that is a personal opinion, not shit talking spurs. If I really had to bet on someone finishing top 4 I would say:

Arsenal, City, Leicester, Liverpool.

[Edited on December 29, 2015 at 5:42 PM. Reason : a]

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12/29/2015 5:41:28 PM

12/29/2015 6:01:29 PM

How bout compromise bw karma points and $500? Loser has to stay out of thread for a year, or user ha today buy a premie and make their status "Spurs/MU RULE" or something dumb like that and keep it all year? #mildstakes

[Edited on December 29, 2015 at 6:24 PM. Reason : ? ]

12/29/2015 6:24:26 PM

Good call, loser stays out of the champions league thread too. Not that ribsie ever gets to post there anyway lol

12/29/2015 6:37:06 PM

lol we have like 10 people that contribute to this thread regularly. We can't afford to have any of them sit out for a year

12/30/2015 9:42:59 AM

hereeeeee we coooomeeeeee

12/30/2015 4:39:45 PM

Ugh, rotten day so far

12/30/2015 4:41:09 PM

Itd be great if someone for Liverpool could score in one on one situations with the goalkeeper.

Jesus help us

12/30/2015 4:43:06 PM

2 weeks in a row. Never in my life

12/30/2015 6:29:52 PM

Had a dream I was playing for Spurs last night and scored past De Gea and LVG was fired on the spot. Not sure what any of that means except that I may have severe mental issues.

Anyway, United should buy Kane and Poch in the January window. And pay Shaw money for Dele Alli. In all seriousness Poch should be wazzas wet dream. Good tactically, plays kids and isn't an asshole who is full of himself (SAF had two of those things at least).

12/31/2015 12:00:52 PM

Yet another football fan obsessed with Man United

12/31/2015 1:19:10 PM

and LVG is an asshole who doesn't play kids? I am glad the United board are backing the manager. Its better than knee jerk fans (myself included) calling for a managers head after a month of bad results.

You look at the premier league this year and every team has had some terrible results, hell Arsenal for all their scintillating football and plaudits have 4 losses compared to our 5.

I like our strategy. Have LVG finish out his contract and let Giggs take over. All LVG has to do this season now is finish top 4 and make a run in the FA Cup. It is disappointing from initial expectations but given the situation it wouldn't be bad.

Also may I remind you the best viewing this weekend was found at Old Trafford. Almost every other match was extremely boring. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

1/4/2016 9:23:36 AM

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"You look at the premier league this year and every team has had some terrible results, hell Arsenal for all their scintillating football and plaudits have 4 losses compared to our 5."

Come on man, this isn't about wins and losses. It's about playing god awful football after spending piles of money. If you think it's good enough for top 4 this year (which it probably is considering how terrible the rest of the challengers have been) and you're willing to wait until a new unproven manager comes in to take over, fine. But please don't pretend like you've enjoyed watching them in the last few months.

You shitting on Liverpool is a predictable reply to this post but it's irrelevant to the issue. United are lucky to be where they are in the table considering what they've played like this season.

1/4/2016 10:49:48 AM

When did I mention I was happy with the football played? In fact I have never seen us play more frustrating football but I can see what he is trying to do and what he is trying to implement. It isn't working and I have seen him make changes over the last few matches to get it there.

If you watched the Swansea match we were playing some great football. Even against Chelsea we played some great football.

That doesn't mean we give up on the system or the manager because he was disappointing in the month of December. That is exactly the kind of things Chelsea and City are made fun of for. I have mentioned this before but there is no winning here because we sack our manager and we are now just like the clubs we have differentiated from. We back our manager and get criticized for the football we play. So what do you want?

To be fair to LVG he has had a few key injuries to deal with and now that these players are back I can see the improvement. At this point it isn't up for debate that the United squad needed rebuilding after Sir Alex left. Despite what your opinions are I think LVG has done a tremendous job overseeing that rebuilding, especially in regards to the back office and clearing out our massive wage bill and under performing older personnel. He has brought in leaders on the field and also bought some young talent that I believe will pay huge dividends in the future (Shaw, Martial, and Memphis). He has also given kids a chance, kids I also believe will be successful in the future (McNair, Perriera, Borthwich Jackson, and Varela).

Gerrard's recent comments mentioned that he wished English clubs gave their star players more chances in management and career advancement. Well United is trying to do just that with Giggs. No one can know if it will work out till it happens but if we are truly a club that is more than just splashing big money and rotating managers then this is exactly what we need to do.

I was angry at the end of December but its clear the players have not lost faith in LVG and that means a lot. I have already mentioned I was disappointed so far this season because there isn't a marked improvement from last year but the United board have a plan in place. If all we do is finish 4th and crash out of the FA cup it will certainly be a disappointing season but it is better than having Mourinho come in spend a lot of cash and then leave the club in turmoil in 2 years.

[Edited on January 4, 2016 at 11:24 AM. Reason : a]

1/4/2016 11:22:19 AM

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1/4/2016 11:22:20 AM

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"I can see what he is trying to do and what he is trying to implement."

Serious question - what is that, exactly? You keep talking about a plan and system and all that but I'm not sure what it is. Granted, I'm not watching every single minute but it seems to me like his plan is to be dull as shit, control possession, not give up any goals, and hope for the best up top. Martial looks extremely talented but he's also young and inconsistent. Not the most sound plan to put it all on him, imho.

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"We back our manager and get criticized for the football we play. So what do you want?"

Are you more concerned with perception of your club's fans backing or not backing a manager? Or enjoying watching your team play? I don't think any reasonable fans of the opposition would begrudge United's fans if they wanted a change after the shit their team's been putting out this year. When you spend that kind of money and have that kind of roster, it should be better, period. It's been more than just a bad December too. Again, I don't watch every game but how many overall good performances have they had this season? LFC, Spurs, Everton?

[Edited on January 4, 2016 at 11:54 AM. Reason : for the record, I would not want Mourinho ]

1/4/2016 11:39:48 AM

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1/4/2016 12:24:23 PM

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"You shitting on Liverpool is a predictable reply to this post but it's irrelevant to the issue."

1/4/2016 12:29:40 PM

So, what we spent should also be irrelevant to how exciting our football is. I mean every side should play attacking football, regardless their spending $$

1/4/2016 12:46:36 PM

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"what is that, exactly?"

LVG sees the game as a possession based system that not only creates chances but also mitigates the opposition. This is based on a solid midfield/defense foundation that translates into winning the ball quickly from the opposition but also moving into attack quickly (United have faltered here, who the fault lies with isn't clear because we can't be sure if players are told to be so rigid since our defense isn't good enough or if United just doesn't have the quality in the final third to deliver this). The Wolfsburg and Southampton matches are a great example of this. LVG set up the team to play fast attacking football but our defense completely fell apart in these matches. One ended with a 3-2 loss and the other ended with a 3-2 win. So is LVG setting us up in certain matches to protect the defense because our squad isn't good enough or is he deliberately telling them to control possession and hoping the players in the final third nick a goal? I have seen matches in which both situations are valid. I think the fact that Shaw got hurt and Memphis hasn't lived up to the hype has hurt United. Full backs and wingers are a huge part of why LVG's system works, stretch the opposition and take advantage of the room inside.

When this has worked as intended we have been great to watch. Think Everton, Southampton Liverpool, and Chelsea (the finishing was the problem against Chelsea, not our play).

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"When you spend that kind of money and have that kind of roster, it should be better, period."

I agree and that is why there is a debate about this to begin with. LVG delivered the goods in year 1 because the expectations were minimum, a top 4 finish. He did that and beat our rivals. So it has been disappointing that we couldn't build on that first season this year.

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"Are you more concerned with perception of your club's fans backing or not backing a manager? Or enjoying watching your team play?"

I think this is a loaded question with United fans split into two very different camps. We just aren't used to having to deal with managerial problems and many have been spoiled by the success that Sir Alex brought. Fans who have more to identify with the club (think local fans but not exclusively) are proud of the clubs history and traditions. So any manager has to appease this section because they represent the majority of the match going fans. However, United is also a global brand and a global brand means fans also expect trophies and entertainment. So how do you balance the two? Sir Alex did it masterfully but that is a man that comes around once in a lifetime. So for the fans who want the manager sacked and Mourinho hired they really aren't making a great case because Mou doesn't exactly play entertaining football despite the results he could potentially obtain. Mou also certainly would not stand for the traditions of Man United as a club historically (despite what others feelings on this are and despite the money spent United still has one of the best academies in England).

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"how many overall good performances have they had this season?"

Not enough. Which justifies the recent unrest. I highlighted a few up top. So now it is up to LVG to take that criticism and show what he can change in the next 2 months. I firmly believe the board will not sack him unless he fails to meet the absolute minimum expectation of finishing 4th. I also believe that just a 4th place finish and a continuation of his recent football will also lead to the board reevaluating in the summer. Pep still isn't confirmed to Man City and recent reports have suggested the board do not believe Giggs is ready till at least 2017. So for me I think the only way we replace LVG is if the results go awry or if Guardiola wants to come to United.

[Edited on January 4, 2016 at 12:50 PM. Reason : a]

1/4/2016 12:46:40 PM

should hire Rafa tbqh imho

1/4/2016 2:29:23 PM

would only be good for the banter

1/4/2016 2:31:48 PM

ha. I would rather rehire Moyes than the fat spanish waiter.

1/4/2016 3:39:20 PM

Pep making it clear that he wants to come to the PL this morning. Down to City, United, and Chelsea I would presume.

If Wenger retires I believe Arsenal would be everything Pep would want. City has been basically setting up their structure to lure Pep and it would be absolutely hilarious if he still chose Man United over them.

Will be interesting to see what he decides. I don't believe City is as nailed on as everyone seems to believe. City have a terrible history of not supporting their manager and the PL will be the toughest challenge yet for Pep, even if he is basically handed the keys to a Ferrari with Man City.

1/5/2016 9:00:55 AM

Pep to City, Poch to United, Klopp to Arsenal (after Wenger wins a league and steps down) and Rafa back to Liverpool. Everyone is happy.

1/5/2016 11:37:43 AM

Klinsmann to Spurs

1/5/2016 11:46:03 AM

lol Pochetinno to United? hahahah. Would rather keep LVG. Honestly there is only one manager out there (who is also available) that I would want for United and that is Pep. Everyone else doesn't offer anything more than LVG and then Giggs taking over would.

1/5/2016 3:21:15 PM

If the Massholes at Liv fall out with Klopp, I wouldn't mind him switching to OT too

1/5/2016 3:23:55 PM

^^ agreed. Giggs is a proven top five manager in world football.

1/5/2016 6:38:58 PM

Nother game, nother set of Liverpool injuries

1/5/2016 7:53:43 PM

no worries

KOLO KOLO KOLO

1/6/2016 9:20:31 AM

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"^^ agreed. Giggs is a proven top five manager in world football."

Are a dimwit or just retarded? What manager available right now is better than what we already have? Go ahead name one that fits. Also when did I call Giggs a top manager?

Mourinho is not a long term solution so now you are talking about managers like Simeone who may or may not come to Man United. Also Simone plays a pretty terrible style of football as well and certainly wouldn't go over well at United.

After that you have managers like Bilic, De Boer, Emre. I would rather give Giggs a shot because frankly all of those managers are unproven for a top team anyway. We could very easily go the Moyes route with any of those. So really the only managers with Pedigree on the market are Mourinho and Pep.

I am sure people like you would have also hated the fact that Guardiola and Enrique got their initial chances on the back of little to none experience. Obviously that doesn't happen often but you don't know till you try. Barcelona were in a position to try and were better for it. United, with their massive financial strength, are also in a position to do just that.

Yes carry on being a fool though.

1/6/2016 6:46:35 PM

Don't ever change.

1/7/2016 8:05:19 AM

^

lol. that heavy fish took the bait and pulled you off the boat. Why are y'all so snarky towards United?

1/7/2016 10:38:55 AM

Why?

^^^

That's why.

1/7/2016 11:32:13 AM

Arsenal fans will crawl back into their little hole once Wenger retires and they can't even count on a 4th place trophy.

I respect Arsenal but their fans are so god awful. I really do hope in a year where Wenger finally has a chance to beat out Man United, Chelsea, and City after a decade of mediocrity that they lose the title to Leicester of all teams. Would be comedy gold that.

[Edited on January 7, 2016 at 12:06 PM. Reason : a]

1/7/2016 12:04:31 PM

Look like Januzaj was recalled. Wasn't really playing much for Dortmund and United could surely use him more.

1/7/2016 12:25:13 PM

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"Why? ^^^ That's why."

lol, y'all were this way long before wazza turned up. And most likely he's an alias anyway

1/7/2016 1:10:56 PM

Speaking of snarky people, where is the resident Tottenham fan? I miss making fun of him. I guess between Tottenham and NC State you can only handle so much sports talk before considering drinking a whole bottle of Jameson.

[Edited on January 7, 2016 at 2:40 PM. Reason : a]

[Edited on January 7, 2016 at 2:41 PM. Reason : a]

1/7/2016 2:37:13 PM

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"I respect Arsenal but their fans are so god awful."

They are called COCKneys for a reason, can dish it but never take it

1/7/2016 4:58:34 PM

I think Danny Welbeck might actually be dead.

1/8/2016 9:16:39 AM

^ Louis Van Gaal died for this.

Its disappointing to see what happened to Welbeck. I expected what Martial has been doing for fun from Welbeck. Would have been every Man United fans wet dream if Welbeck played as well as Martial has been. Don't get us wrong, we absolutely love Martial but we just wish he was a Manc and not French.

Surprised me a bit that Arsenal paid 16 million quid for him. Man United was always going to take that offer. Hope he does find his feet again in the second half of the season, the Euro spots are still up for grab.

[Edited on January 8, 2016 at 10:04 AM. Reason : d]

1/8/2016 10:04:18 AM

That FA Cup goal last year alone was worth 16m

1/8/2016 10:20:33 AM