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Lionheart
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" ErinESummers Erin Summers
#UNC on Butch Davis' phone records: Released UNC-issued cell phone records for BD in entirety. Was minimal activity & some months w/ none"


^word?

How does a head coach known as good recruiter work without using a phone for months on end.

Thats all you have to say to the judge.

[Edited on June 21, 2011 at 6:48 PM. Reason : For 153]

6/21/2011 6:48:06 PM

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"[You can try and say it was that the defense was depleted by suspension but its not like the offense was out there blowing people out."

6/21/2011 7:06:34 PM

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"@TarHeelWire: Two weeks ago, sources familiar with the investigation told THW that UNC believed a Notice of Allegations could include 9 major infractions."


6/21/2011 7:06:39 PM

DalesDeadBug
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shit, 9 major?

if true, they are likely on the first train to buttrapetown

6/21/2011 7:07:46 PM

Lionheart
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^Hopefully they don't split different players into separate infractions

6/21/2011 7:08:40 PM

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"9 major infractions"


6/21/2011 7:09:19 PM

TreeTwista10
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what kind of penalties would they get if they determine that Blake and Austin were runners and/or agents

its one thing to have players talking to agents, its another to employ an agent as an assistant coach and have one of your players be a runner

6/21/2011 7:12:04 PM

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9 major you say?


6/21/2011 7:31:52 PM

AuH20
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I'm not getting excited for 9 until I see it. THW quoted someone with information from 2 weeks ago with what Carolina thought they may receive. All I care about is how many infractions the NCAA thinks they violated.

6/21/2011 7:36:32 PM

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"buttrapetown"


lol

And I'm not getting my hopes up about the 9 major violations. But I'd love it if it were true.

6/21/2011 7:50:26 PM

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ArmstrongWTVD Mark Armstrong
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Here we go: unethical conduct by Blake for providing false and misleading info to the NCAA and for failure to cooperate

6/21/2011 7:51:27 PM

ncsuftw1
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HERE WE GO

http://www.twitter.com/ArmstrongWTVD

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"Here we go: unethical conduct by Blake for providing false and misleading info to the NCAA and for failure to cooperate
Blake marketed the athletic abilities of athletes to agent Gary Wichard
He received outside income he didn't report to UNC
Against Wiley: unethical conduct for not cooperating with NCAA investigation and providing illegal benefits to players an tutoring
Allegations of academic fraud, preferential treatment and impermissable benefits.
Failure to monitor for not being on top of Chris Hawkins, failing to monitor social media of it's athletes and possible extra bennys...
...to a student-athlete triggered by agent legislation"


[Edited on June 21, 2011 at 7:52 PM. Reason : ^ i have a follower? :O]

[Edited on June 21, 2011 at 7:52 PM. Reason : ]

[Edited on June 21, 2011 at 7:52 PM. Reason : ]

6/21/2011 7:51:56 PM

AuH20
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ArmstrongWTVD Mark Armstrong
Allegations of academic fraud, preferential treatment and impermissable benefits.
11 seconds ago

ArmstrongWTVD Mark Armstrong
Against Wiley: unethical conduct for not cooperating with NCAA investigation and providing illegal benefits to players an tutoring
50 seconds ago

ArmstrongWTVD Mark Armstrong
He received outside income he didn't report to UNC
1 minute ago

ArmstrongWTVD Mark Armstrong
Blake marketed the athletic abilities of athletes to agent Gary Wichard

6/21/2011 7:52:41 PM

ncsuftw1
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http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/unc/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/NCAA_NOA_062111.pdf

6/21/2011 7:53:35 PM

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"Breaking News: NCAA finds that former UNC football coach, tutor and student-athletes violated NCAA bylaws.
"

6/21/2011 7:56:14 PM

TreeTwista10
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^^26 pages, nice



[Edited on June 21, 2011 at 8:01 PM. Reason : more than 26 pages actually, that's just the letter to Thorp, doesnt include letter to Blake]

[Edited on June 21, 2011 at 8:01 PM. Reason : or Wiley]

6/21/2011 7:56:43 PM

ncsuftw1
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October 28th will be the real popcorn day.

6/21/2011 7:56:55 PM

dmspack
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Why does the document look really blurry starting at the letter to Jennifer Wiley?

Nevermind...I guess it just had to be re-scanned as it looks edited (for names and such)

[Edited on June 21, 2011 at 8:02 PM. Reason : ]

[Edited on June 21, 2011 at 8:03 PM. Reason : ]

6/21/2011 8:01:49 PM

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6/21/2011 8:02:22 PM

AuH20
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9 infractions total. 6 Majors.

I'll take it!

6/21/2011 8:02:25 PM

TreeTwista10
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wow this is getting juicy

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" (redacted player name) competed while ineligible during the 2009 and 2010 seasons, and (another redacted name) competed while ineligible during the 2008 and 2009 seasons"


does that mean their eventual record from 2008-2010 will end up being 0-36ish?

and in UNC's response theyre asking for a shitload more emails and copies of interviews

the tutor paid $1,789 worth of parking tickets for one player

[Edited on June 21, 2011 at 8:08 PM. Reason : .]

6/21/2011 8:04:42 PM

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Usually vacated wins are not turned into losses. A 9-4 team who has to vacate their wins becomes a 0-4 team according to records.

6/21/2011 8:07:12 PM

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6/21/2011 8:07:31 PM

MrLuvaLuva85
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i want to know where the tutor got the money to pay for that stuff.

6/21/2011 8:07:33 PM

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"Wiley paid $150 for an airline ticket in May 2010, and $1,789 in parking violation expenses on August 20, 2010 for then football student-atlete"

6/21/2011 8:07:43 PM

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I am kind of impressed. If UNC doesn't watch their response they are FUCKED...

[Edited on June 21, 2011 at 8:08 PM. Reason : ^ Maybe wiley is why the parking investigation started?]

6/21/2011 8:07:50 PM

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6/21/2011 8:08:13 PM

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"Jennifer Wiley, former academic support center tutor, provided approximately $3500 in impermissible extra benefits to football student athletes"


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"Wiley paid $150 for an airline ticket"


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"and $1,789 in parking violation expenses for then football student athlete"


Part of the $3500 is in tutoring, but she paid nearly $2000 in parking tickets + airline ticket? I hope she was getting some extra benefits herself from all that.

6/21/2011 8:09:14 PM

TreeTwista10
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"Willie [last name unknown]"


i will say a couple of the benefits, like the $10 one and the $20 one, seem a little petty

haha some former student athlete named Mahlon Carey is named for giving a player $5

wonder if the $50 that Chris Hawkins gave a player was 50 bucks, or a gram of coke

[Edited on June 21, 2011 at 8:14 PM. Reason : .]

6/21/2011 8:10:45 PM

dmspack
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^LOL was gonna post the same thing.

[Edited on June 21, 2011 at 8:12 PM. Reason : Willie Parker?]

6/21/2011 8:11:51 PM

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HAHHAHAHAHA I FUCKING LOVE IT.

Man we could get the biggest bounce ever in recruiting from this the next couple of years.

6/21/2011 8:12:10 PM

DalesDeadBug
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can't wait for UNC's response on this one

6/21/2011 8:13:18 PM

Bullet
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i'll believe it when i see it.

simmer down

6/21/2011 8:15:08 PM

ncsuftw1
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"Whoa. Apparently a player told UNC about Chris Hawkins and potential improper benefits and UNC did not "adequately follow up on information""


LOIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

6/21/2011 8:15:57 PM

dmspack
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LOL at Blake denying working for ProTect when it was listed as a former employer of his on his credit report.

^Damn, that doesn't look good for UNC.

[Edited on June 21, 2011 at 8:17 PM. Reason : ]

6/21/2011 8:16:04 PM

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.

[Edited on June 21, 2011 at 8:17 PM. Reason : nevermind]

6/21/2011 8:16:11 PM

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Blake was getting money from Wichard as far back as prior to the 2007 season

i don't wanna bust too soon but this seems really, really bad for UNC

6/21/2011 8:17:52 PM

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"CHAPEL HILL - The University of North Carolina announced today it has received a notice of allegations from the NCAA pertaining to its football program. This notice reflects 12 months of investigation by the NCAA and the University. The University has cooperated fully with the NCAA."


What?

6/21/2011 8:18:17 PM

Ernie
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Get with it Andy Staples

6/21/2011 8:19:29 PM

ncsuftw1
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i'd hate to be on the team that has to find all this information the ncaa wants for every violation, that is a ton of info they may or may not be able to find

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"RT @slmandel: Of significance: No Lack of Institutional Control charge. But Failure to Monitor, which is nearly as serious.

RT @starnewsacc: Also, A LOT of instances of "false and misleading information" provided to NCAA. So much for that "full cooperation" Baddour crows about"


[Edited on June 21, 2011 at 8:20 PM. Reason : ]

[Edited on June 21, 2011 at 8:22 PM. Reason : ]

6/21/2011 8:19:35 PM

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I am so happy reading this.

6/21/2011 8:20:42 PM

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lol at possibly vacating 3 years of wins...good thing we beat them all those years...so no talking on their part

6/21/2011 8:21:17 PM

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I read all 26 pages. I am so happy.

6/21/2011 8:22:00 PM

MrLuvaLuva85
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butch davis is either blind or stupid or a sneaky MF

6/21/2011 8:24:00 PM

TreeTwista10
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their spin will be "we already knew all of this, but theres no LOIC, nothing to see here, move along"

6/21/2011 8:24:23 PM

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This is the ultimate. It's not the death sentence that gives UNC fans the easy "oh we dont care about football".

but it's several years of probation, probably some house clearing (Butch has to go for god's sake right?), terrible recruiting, and a laser eye on their program to prevent them from continuing to cheat.

We all knew cheating was rampant when UNC went from doormat to getting elite players at every position seemingly overnight. It didn't help that Butch had a terrible reputation coming in already. If this is just the stuff they got caught doing, imagine what all was going on behind the scenes.

It's funny how much money they are going to lose on their stadium expansion now that their team will suck. I just hope the taxpayers don't foot the bill. But even if they do it will be the best fucking use of taxpayer dollars I've ever paid.

Eat a big dick Carolina hahahhaaha

6/21/2011 8:27:35 PM

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"It didn't help that Butch had a terrible reputation coming in already."


ABCing aside, I always hear (maybe it's from UNC people though) that BMFD was known for "cleaning up" Miami

6/21/2011 8:29:23 PM

ncsuftw1
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honestly at this rate why would we really want butch gone

6/21/2011 8:30:11 PM

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"State fans are to stupid to know that this document tells us nothing that we, or anyone else, didnt already know."



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Don't have time to read all that ****, any penalties?"




Hmmmm who is too stupid to know what a NOA is??

6/21/2011 8:30:45 PM

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"butch davis is either blind or stupid or a sneaky MF"


The notion that Butch Davis didn't know or wasn't involved in this stuff is preposterous. You're not going to be a division 1 head coach unless you're a type A personality control freak. They way I see it, part of doing your job well is keeping yourself properly insulated from potential investigation.

Of course Pete Carroll knew about the stuff at USC.

Of course Jim Tressel knew about the stuff at OSU.

Of course Butch Davis knew about the stuff at UNC.

The only question on the matter is if it can be traced to him.

6/21/2011 8:32:48 PM

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