And you guys are probably reading the same thing I am reading. Apparently if your contract ends anytime in 2010, they will give you the special price. They go on sale on June 24th. (earlier than I thought)

6/7/2010 2:44:02 PM

nice, now i'm not quite so pissed i used my upgrade at the beginning of this year. looks like i can upgrade again in another month or so

6/7/2010 2:44:41 PM

I shall be preordering...

6/7/2010 2:47:14 PM

Quote :

"Wow, and the 32GB is $299."

Just like the 3GS was!

6/7/2010 2:47:38 PM

"There are some big new features -- the first being multitasking. People said you weren't the first, but we figured it out. If you don't do it right, you kill the battery."

Yeah and they didn't want to give us the choice to do what we liked with the phones we paid for. So you either have to jailbreak or switch to another platform.

6/7/2010 2:48:06 PM

so that means folks that got a 3gs through AT&T wont be eligible for the upgrade

6/7/2010 2:48:55 PM

sure you're eligible, it just costs you alot more money

6/7/2010 2:50:03 PM

so...any thoughts on how much HD vid recording you can get on a 16GB? I don't keep many songs on my iphone and have plenty of space on my current 8GB. I'd rather save 100 bucks over the 32GB if I can...

[Edited on June 7, 2010 at 2:51 PM. Reason : glass 30x harder than plastic per apple...]

6/7/2010 2:50:32 PM

You'll probably pay the full price.

This is why I didnt jump last year. I have had the 3G for almost 2 years, and last year saw very little improvement to make it worth upgrading.

This, on the other hand, is a huge upgrade from a 3G.

^ probably a couple of hours? I would probably go to the Flip video site, and compare the record time and their storage capacity for a good comparison. they are probably going to be equal or about the same.

[Edited on June 7, 2010 at 2:52 PM. Reason : .]

6/7/2010 2:51:04 PM

Quote :

"so that means folks that got a 3gs through AT&T wont be eligible for the upgrade "

i thought they said at&t was moving the upgrade dates back? i would assume that means for everyone..

[Edited on June 7, 2010 at 2:52 PM. Reason : mainly to get ppl locked in with at&t for another 2 years..]

[Edited on June 7, 2010 at 2:52 PM. Reason : but i could be wrong, haven't had time to read everything yet]

6/7/2010 2:51:50 PM

Quote :

"We’ve finally found a way to get these upgrades for free to our iPod touch customers"

lmao

6/7/2010 2:52:04 PM

Quote :

"so that means folks that got a 3gs through AT&T wont be eligible for the upgrade"

Huh? I got a 3GS through AT&T and I am eligible to upgrade today.

Dial *new# (*639#) and they will send you a text message with your upgrade date. If you got a 3GS on launch day, you should be eligible to get a 4 on the 24th.

6/7/2010 2:53:42 PM

Got a 3GS on launch day, AT&T says my upgrade is 02/20/2011

6/7/2010 2:59:02 PM

I got a 3gs at launch day and the text response was

Quote :

" As a valued customer, we can offer you an upgrade with a new 2-yr commitment and an $18 upgrade fee. "

I guess I'm eligible then?

6/7/2010 3:00:16 PM

they said at the keynote that if your contract ends this year you can upgrade early

^yeah i got that too. I got mine last year, contract is up in 2011. confusing.

[Edited on June 7, 2010 at 3:01 PM. Reason : *]

6/7/2010 3:00:31 PM

Quote :

"Huh? I got a 3GS through AT&T and I am eligible to upgrade today. Dial *new# (*639#) and they will send you a text message with your upgrade date. If you got a 3GS on launch day, you should be eligible to get a 4 on the 24th."

You probably spend >$100/line with AT&T. They allow full upgrades after 1 yr for those people.

6/7/2010 3:00:39 PM

I'm sure it's tied to how much you spend monthly just like it's always been.

6/7/2010 3:01:17 PM

all this upgrade shit seems so odd, i still have a 3G and got:

Quote :

"As a valued customer, we can offer you an upgrade with a new 2-yr commitment and an $18 upgrade fee."

yet some 3GS peeps can get an upgrade now without a fee?

6/7/2010 3:04:40 PM

my response was "the information you requested is not available at this time"

prob cause its a business account i guess.

6/7/2010 3:05:57 PM

I think the 'fee' applies to all if you are eligible?

6/7/2010 3:06:17 PM

Quote :

"Huh? I got a 3GS through AT&T and I am eligible to upgrade today."

did you sign a 1-year contract? unless you did, i dont see how thats possible

6/7/2010 3:06:18 PM

Pre-orders start June 15th. Who's pre-ordering one?

6/7/2010 3:09:17 PM

in.

6/7/2010 3:10:02 PM

oh look

att's website is 'under maintenance'

Ill pre-order one if it is indeed an 18 dollar upgrade fee

6/7/2010 3:11:56 PM

^You still have to pay $199/$299 lol

6/7/2010 3:13:26 PM

im aware of that

6/7/2010 3:14:20 PM

Just checking.

6/7/2010 3:16:25 PM

Quote :

"glass 30x harder than plastic per apple"

harder is not the same thing as tougher

in fact, hard materials are often brittle

6/7/2010 3:21:35 PM

30x more scratchable

6/7/2010 3:22:17 PM

30x more trollable.


Someone needs to page Aarronburr so he can post his "half the features, 8 times the marketing, double the price".

[Edited on June 7, 2010 at 3:24 PM. Reason : .]

6/7/2010 3:23:36 PM

Quote :

"Got a 3GS on launch day, AT&T says my upgrade is 02/20/2011"

you're getting screwed then.. call them in a day or two and see what's going on. i upgraded in January or Feb and am eligible to again next month

Quote :

" harder is not the same thing as tougher in fact, hard materials are often brittle"

SO SMART!!1!

[Edited on June 7, 2010 at 3:25 PM. Reason : asdf]

6/7/2010 3:25:21 PM

Quote :

"You probably spend >$100/line with AT&T. They allow full upgrades after 1 yr for those people."

Nope. I pay the bare minimum you can pay for a plan with an iPhone on it. The $39.99 plan plus $30 data + $0 text plan. My bill ends up being right at $72/mo after taxes.

Quote :

"did you sign a 1-year contract? unless you did, i dont see how thats possible"

I signed the same 2 year contract that everyone else that has an iPhone was forced to sign.

This just in: Everyone wants an iPhone. AT&T is willing to bend their rules a little in order to get more customers. More at 11.

6/7/2010 3:30:37 PM

Quote :

"This just in: Everyone wants an iPhone. AT&T is willing to bend their rules a little in order to get more customers. More at 11."

Technically speaking, there are no upgrade rules to bend to 'get more customers'. I think what you meant was 'to keep customers'

6/7/2010 3:34:15 PM

Quote :

"you're getting screwed then.. call them in a day or two and see what's going on. i upgraded in January or Feb and am eligible to again next month"

I won't be getting a new iPhone, so I honestly don't really care. It was more just a curiousity thing.

6/7/2010 3:36:05 PM

^^yeah, you're right. I guess buying new hardware doesn't really qualify as a new customer for AT&T.

It's like everyone is forgetting what happened last year. all the people that bought launch 3G's were so pissed they didn't qualify to get a new 3GS and they bitched up a storm and AT&T eventually caved. They are just saving everyone the trouble of bitching this time around.

^Have you done the *new# thing recently? I checked last week and it said I wasn't eligible, but I checked again today and I am. They made a lot of changes this weekend supposedly.

I don't know why anyone that has a 3GS wouldn't upgrade. Wouldn't the cost of buying an iPhone4 be offset by the money you'd get for selling your 3GS on craigslist? That's what I'm planning on doing. The only thing that has me even a little bit reluctant to upgrade is the lack of a jailbreak. But I'm sure that won't take too awful long, and I have my iPad to tide me over until then.

Then again, I guess not everyone is iPhone4life.

6/7/2010 3:36:15 PM

gonna wait to see if windows phone 7 turns out ok and if not prob get an iphone 5

6/7/2010 3:42:46 PM

Currently in gadget shock, if you threw me in an Apple Store right now I'd probably buy it. I'm gonna hold strong though and wait until my contract runs out, then evaluate my options in the Android market/other carriers.

6/7/2010 3:44:17 PM

what happened to the verizon iphone?

6/7/2010 3:48:40 PM

Quote :

"what happened to the verizon iphone?"

There isn't one? Besides, the rumor was that it would be announced in September.

Quote :

"evaluate my options in the Android market/other carriers."

In terms of what we've seen in the market today and 'coming soon' there really isn't anything to evaluate. But maybe there is an android phone that we haven't heard about thats yet to be announced?


[Edited on June 7, 2010 at 3:51 PM. Reason : .]

6/7/2010 3:50:35 PM

Quote :

"Wouldn't the cost of buying an iPhone4 be offset by the money you'd get for selling your 3GS on craigslist? That's what I'm planning on doing."

me too

6/7/2010 3:56:16 PM

Quote :

"Nope. I pay the bare minimum you can pay for a plan with an iPhone on it. The $39.99 plan plus $30 data + $0 text plan. My bill ends up being right at $72/mo after taxes."

Hmm, nice. Well, it's showing me 05/10/11 and I upgraded to a 3GS in September and pay $115/taxes for 2 iPhones. Guess it doesn't matter though, as with the new cancellation fees, you might as well just buy it outright. Or:
1. buy iphone.
2. sell iphone & buy cheaper unlocked phone.
3. ??
4. Profit

& yeah, I already sold my brand-new-condition 3GS for $425 on eBay. It was on a warranty exchange--could have gotten at least $100 more if I could have unlocked it. I also didn't know about the 21 day hold they have now though--fuckers.

[Edited on June 7, 2010 at 4:02 PM. Reason : fleabay.]

6/7/2010 3:59:22 PM

Quote :

"In terms of what we've seen in the market today and 'coming soon' there really isn't anything to evaluate. But maybe there is an android phone that we haven't heard about thats yet to be announced?"

I mean, the Incredible/EVO 4G are still awesome phones, even compared to iPhone 4. Froyo is still a helluva an OS. I just don't want to lock myself into another 2 years with AT&T/iPhone before I even have a chance to get out.

[Edited on June 7, 2010 at 4:05 PM. Reason : :]

6/7/2010 4:01:14 PM

Quote :

""In terms of what we've seen in the market today and 'coming soon' there really isn't anything to evaluate. But maybe there is an android phone that we haven't heard about thats yet to be announced?""

Samsung I-9000 Galaxy/i897/Captivate? T-Mobile could get it as soon as June 19, according to rumors. But, as usual, AT&T is dragging their feet on a good Android phone while they slob on "Daddy" Job's dick.

[Edited on June 7, 2010 at 4:05 PM. Reason : ugh quotes]

6/7/2010 4:05:00 PM

eventually both att and verizon will be LTE so carriers are less of a deal when LTE phones start coming out

6/7/2010 4:06:08 PM

Quote :

"Samsung I-9000 Galaxy/i897/Captivate? T-Mobile could get it as soon as June 19, according to rumors. But, as usual, AT&T is dragging their feet on a good Android phone while they slob on "Daddy" Job's dick."

Your lack of ability to properly use quote tags and saying stupid shit like that makes it difficult for someone to take you seriously and respond.

Quote :

"I mean, the Incredible/EVO 4G are still awesome phones, even compared to iPhone 4. Froyo is still a helluva an OS. I just don't want to lock myself into another 2 years with AT&T/iPhone before I even have a chance to get out."

What does the Incredible/EVO 4G do that sets them apart from the rest? And other than Flash on Froyo, what are some key features to set it apart?

[Edited on June 7, 2010 at 4:07 PM. Reason : *I don't consider 'open source' as a consumer feature*]

6/7/2010 4:06:13 PM

Quote :

" What does the Incredible/EVO 4G iPhone 4 do that sets it apart from the rest? And other than Flash on Froyo uhhhhh iAds?, what are some key features to set it apart?"

6/7/2010 4:10:12 PM

i tried the *639# thing and got "We're sorry. Requested information is currently unavailable. Please try again later"

is the system overloaded?

6/7/2010 4:11:21 PM

Quote :

"is the system overloaded?"

yes, their website too.

Quote :

" What does the Incredible/EVO 4G iPhone 4 do that sets it apart from the rest? And other than Flash on Froyo uhhhhh iAds?, what are some key features to set it apart?"

Facetime
720p video recording and editing
App Store
iTunes (you might not like iTunes as a service, but in terms of being able to rent movies/buy movies/tv shows/music etc directly from the phone)
Overall hardware design (none of that cheap looking Motorola star-tach shit)

Not sure about the display, camera, etc because I don't know if the competition already has displays and cameras that are better.

[Edited on June 7, 2010 at 4:14 PM. Reason : .]

6/7/2010 4:11:42 PM

Quote :

"I mean, the Incredible/EVO 4G are still awesome phones"

Yep, I'll be moving to an Evo if i can stand the size

Quote :

"What does the Incredible/EVO 4G do that sets them apart from the rest?"

ok i'll feed the troll. speaking for the evo,

4G data
8MP Camera on the back, 1.3MB on front
Open Marketplace, can actually customize the OS
SD Card Slot
HDMI Out
User replaceable battery
Native furn by turn
Flash support (obviously in 2.2, not 2.1)
A freaking spectacular screen
FM Radio
camera flash/[really bright] flashlight
one of those LEDs to let u know if you missed a call/email/text. plus you can change the settings pretty granularly
more than one button.

and i've played with an evo for a bit...and it's solid as hell. doesn't feel cheap in the least bit.

6/7/2010 4:11:49 PM

probably. it worked fine for me a few minutes ago tho

6/7/2010 4:11:55 PM